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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
Date: 27 Jul 1997 20:53:54 -0400 (EDT)

Hi;

Please add to your locations:

In Monterey, as of two weeks ago...

I know of one machine at Fisherman's warf. About 1/2 way out on the warf on
the right hand side. (If you collect tokens, be sure to stop into the Custom
House. They have just added them.)

One at a gift shop that specializes in "desk top waterfalls" on the main
drag, "up the hill" from the warf, not too far from Taco Bell on the left
side. Worth the walk. One of the nicest EC's I found in Monterey.

Cannery Row has a few also. You can walk there on the pathway from
Fisherman's Warf. Nice, walk about one mile or so.

P.S. The Morro Bay machines may not be available before 11AM. But the
cinnamon roll shop is open at 7:30 :-) (They are as close to The Rock as
you can get and still be on dry land :-)

-Bob Hoff
TEC#2033

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Research Help
Date: 27 Jul 1997 18:02:42 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> I need some research help on elongated penny from Hawaii. The coin holder
> has the reference 2EL-35A. Can anyone help with this reference?

Well, I can help tell you what they're not. Martin-Dow's
"Yesterday's Elongateds" uses a coding system based on location so any
Hawaii issue would be HAWxxx, so it's not from there. And I believer
Rosato uses designer name (also three letters), so it's probably not from
there either. Possibly either Dottie Dow's or Lee Martin's books that
they wrote solo? I've never sen these so don't have a clue. Most likely
it's a dealer code of some time.

Can you describe the coin for us?

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Oddest/Biggest
Date: 27 Jul 1997 18:08:10 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> Just a thought, maybe we could have a contest of the oddest or bigest etc.
> EC?
> There must be some very unusual ones out there!

Well, the oddest/largest so far in my collection must be a 1966
British Half Penny. When elongated it's about the same size as an
elongated Half Dollar (I've seen 'em although I don't have any). It's
actually a Brazzell roll with a star and "Star/Silent/Studier". The
design is pretty mundane, but the reverse is gorgeous with an old sailing
ship on it.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
Date: 27 Jul 1997 18:10:28 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> P.S. The Morro Bay machines may not be available before 11AM. But the
> cinnamon roll shop is open at 7:30 :-) (They are as close to The Rock as

Fortunately, I'm not available at 7:30 am. I doubt I'll make it
to Morro Bay before 11. And if I do I'll simply remove the fur from my
tire and knock on the door 'til they let me in or the machines come out 8-)

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: (elongates) Smashing Dimes
Date: 27 Jul 1997 22:18:35 -0400

Where is it in the rules that you cannot run a dime through a penny
machine? Sure, the rollers should be adjusted a bit to take the
thinness of the dime, but I have gotten pretty good results with some
penny machines that are set a little too tight.

If there is a large margin between the design and the pointy end, that
machine is probably a good candidate for a dime. Try it, you'll like
it!

Regards,

Bob Fritsch
rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) SD Padres + Maryland Coin Update
Date: 27 Jul 1997 22:30:43 -0700

Greetings All,

I was at a San Diego Padre's game yesterday (yes, they won!) and walked
the entire stadium looking for the hand-cranked machines I had found
earlier. No luck. I finally went to the Customer Service desk and they
said the machines were popular at the beginning of the season, and then
things tapered off. (Guess you hit a saturation point and should get some
new designs!!!). Wish I had gotten some trade stock before they folded.

One other update. I just received a penny from a friend on the East Coast
(of the US that is). It says "Annapolia Maryland" and has a crab in the
center. It is horizontal and doesn't show much zinc. No further location
was available -- BUT I'M WORKING ON IT! 8-) Willy, do you have any info
on this one?

Have a great week everyone!

Bert

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) SD Padres + Maryland Coin Update
Date: 27 Jul 1997 22:58:44 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> (of the US that is). It says "Annapolia Maryland" and has a crab in the
^

I'm assuming this is a typo. No, I'm not being persnickety. It
makes a difference.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) Spelling Counts!
Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:27:09 -0700

OK,

I accept the B+ grade on this report for missing the spelling 8-(

YES, it is very important, sorry for rushing the report out. FYI -- There
was a single day at Disneyland when they had a machine that was putting
out 101 Dalmatian coins (Cruella De Vil, Pongo & Perdita, Dalmatian
puppy) and they spelled it as Dalmations. Those are rare coins indeed!
Sooo, sorry for the typo.

Hey, anyone else have any coins where the spelling is wrong? (Sounds like
the start of a very short thread...)

bc

On 7/27/97 10:58 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

>
>On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:
>
>> (of the US that is). It says "Annapolia Maryland" and has a crab in the
> ^
>
> I'm assuming this is a typo. No, I'm not being persnickety. It
>makes a difference.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Spelling Counts!
Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:34:55 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> was a single day at Disneyland when they had a machine that was putting
> out 101 Dalmatian coins (Cruella De Vil, Pongo & Perdita, Dalmatian
> puppy) and they spelled it as Dalmations. Those are rare coins indeed!

Ok, you caught me. The only reason I wanted the List Meet and
Trade Session to be at Disneyland is because I'm hoping David will show
up with this very penny so I can....umm...borrow it...Yeah...that's the
ticket.

> Hey, anyone else have any coins where the spelling is wrong? (Sounds like
> the start of a very short thread...)

I've got a few Lord's Prayer coins with typos (engravos?).
Amongst the hundreds in my collection there are plenty of words (names,
places, etc.) that I simply ASSUME are spelled right as I have no way of
knowing. I doubt it's as rare as you think and I'd say they become more
common (percentage-wise) as you go back into the oldies.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out...
Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:43:34 -0700

Hi All,

Here are some unconfirmed reports on machine locations:

1) Placerville, CA. Placerville Hardware Store (on Main Street) -- 3
designs. (Aahz, is this anywhere near you?)

2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741 Autumn
Moon Drlve, Las Vegas, NV 89123, Phone: 702.269.8131, TEC#2010. (WIsh
we'd had this info before Nikki left for Lost Wages!)

3) Gatlinburg, TN. On Main Street, 1 machine with 4 designs. Name on
machine is J.E. Sossman, 615.546.6039, Knoxville, TN.

4) Chimney Rock Park, NC. 1 machine on top of the mountain, 4 designs.
(Bet the service folks love to fix this one...)

5) Grandfather MT, NC. No further info.

6) Coor's Field, Denver, CO. No further info.

7) Kansas Turnpike (Oasis) - Sunflower, state outline with wheat, no
further info.

8) Chamberline, SD. Al's Oasis. One machine, no further info.

9) William Vandenbos has one machine at Galatin Field (Airport) in
Bozeman, MT.

Bert

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From: "tink!!!" <dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out...
Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:47:19 -0700

i'm BACK!!!!!

> 2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741
> Autumn Moon Drlve, Las Vegas, NV 89123, Phone: 702.269.8131,
> TEC#2010. (WIsh we'd had this info before Nikki left for Lost
> Wages!)

yeah! me, too;>

so the good news is, i was able to check out barstow station again.
and, ya'll guessed it...the bad news is, the machine is gone...*sniff*

i asked at all the big casinos i hit, and none of them knew of any such
machines. i thought that the kids areas would maybe have a couple, (i
seem to make my money last a LOT longer in the kids area;>) as little
souneirs for the cheap thrills, but no... oh, well. maybe i'll send
them all nasty mail telling them of my disappointment (yeah, like
that'll help)...

pax!!!
nikki
--
"There's still a part of me that's
16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards
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dc.d f-- - s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i!

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out...
Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:43:54 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> 1) Placerville, CA. Placerville Hardware Store (on Main Street) -- 3
> designs. (Aahz, is this anywhere near you?)

Not really, it's past Sacramento on the way to South Lake Tahoe.
I WANT to take a collecting trip weekend to both Tahoe and Reno, but it's
not in the budget 'til after the Disneyland meet in Sept. October
maybe. Is the name of the store "Placerville Hardware Store"? I could
try to get a confirmation, possible sample, from friends/relatives
driving to Tahoe.

> 2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741 Autumn

I assume Al is the rollers name. Do you know his .sig?

> 9) William Vandenbos has one machine at Galatin Field (Airport) in
> Bozeman, MT.

Ditto.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) SD Padres + Maryland Coin Update
Date: 28 Jul 1997 02:54:58 -0700

Bert Creighton wrote:

I just received a penny from a friend on the East Coast
> (of the US that is). It says "Annapolia Maryland" and has a crab in the
> center. It is horizontal and doesn't show much zinc. No further location
> was available -- BUT I'M WORKING ON IT! 8-) Willy, do you have any info
> on this one?

Sorry, I've never even seen it. And I live only a half hour from there!
However, If you see any initals on the coin, I may be able to get some
info.
--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out...
Date: 28 Jul 1997 00:04:09 -0700

On 7/27/97 11:43 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

>On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:
>
>> 1) Placerville, CA. Placerville Hardware Store (on Main Street) -- 3
>> designs. (Aahz, is this anywhere near you?)

The info I received said "Placerville Hardward Store."

>
> Not really, it's past Sacramento on the way to South Lake Tahoe.
>I WANT to take a collecting trip weekend to both Tahoe and Reno, but it's
>not in the budget 'til after the Disneyland meet in Sept. October
>maybe. Is the name of the store "Placerville Hardware Store"? I could
>try to get a confirmation, possible sample, from friends/relatives
>driving to Tahoe.
>
>> 2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741 Autumn
>
> I assume Al is the rollers name. Do you know his .sig?

Don't have any further info on Al or William... Sorry 8-(
>
>> 9) William Vandenbos has one machine at Galatin Field (Airport) in
>> Bozeman, MT.
>
> Ditto.

Bert

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: (elongates) SPM
Date: 28 Jul 1997 03:11:31 -0700

Hi Gang!

Last night (Sunday), I had the dubious distinction of being the first to
sign the guest book at the Squished Penny Museum (SPM) in Washington,
D.C.
It was all that I had anticipated, and more! In fact, my all to short
visit lasted for four hours... they practically had to throw me out :)

Christine and Pete (the SPM curators) have managed to capture the sheer
joy of elongated coin collecting in their humble yet elegant museum.

If EVER in the D.C. area, I highly recommend setting an appointment to
view this most wonderful spectacle for yourself.... And be sure to bring
a few squished coins for trading--I was lucky enough to trade for a few
EC issues that I had never seen before!

The price of admission, you may wonder??? FREE (a bargain at twice that
price).
--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

*** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** *

P.S.
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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM
Date: 28 Jul 1997 00:18:42 -0700

Pete,

Do you accept digital signatures? If so, can you log me as the 2nd to
sign the book! I will follow this with a REAL signature when I get to DC
later this year.

Congrats on your new location! Hope to see it soon!

Bert

On 7/28/97 3:11 AM William C. Massey (massey@clark.net ) wrote

>Hi Gang!
>
>Last night (Sunday), I had the dubious distinction of being the first to
>sign the guest book at the Squished Penny Museum (SPM) in Washington,
>D.C.

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) TEC Meeting issues
Date: 28 Jul 1997 00:36:04 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings and Salutations!

Well the ANA Convention is this coming week/end and I know there
are a few of you attending. The TEC Meeting is Friday morning and I hope
you will all be attending. For those that are I thought I'd provide a
concise list of issies that have come up here that perhaps should be
addressed by TEC. If they matter to you, you should take the opportunity
to 'lobby' TEC people outside the meeting as well as during it.

1) What happened with the elections this year? There was
essentially no nomination process and no way for non-attendees to vote.

2) Who's in the third Director/Governor slot? If there is no
one, then this should be filled.

3) Several people have not been getting their free coin with TEC
News. Is there some way to make the system here more reliable?

4) Any chance of getting a regular column in TEC News about 'net
happenings?

5) Vote William C. Massey for President!!!!

6) The TEC website NEEDS to happen. Talk it up and give your ideas.

7) Any time you can sneak in a mention of The Elongated Coin
Mailing List (and the subscription URL) would be greatly appreciated.

8) If you see any cheap Lord's Prayer coins, I need them for my
current research project and will be happy to trade or purchase.

9) Speaking of trade, I still never got anybody to agree to get
the Mint Mile into Show elongates set. I'm hoping someone's planning a
surprise for me.

10) Most important of all: HAVE FUN!!!! and write a show report
to the list when you get back.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Smashing Dimes
Date: 27 Jul 1997 23:51:28 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote:

> Where is it in the rules that you cannot run a dime through a penny
> machine? Sure, the rollers should be adjusted a bit to take the

I seem to recall that I tried this on one machine back when I
first started collecting and it didn't work. Since I would have ssaved
ANY result, I believe the slide just wouldn't take the coin. I'll try it
on future machines, though and see what happens.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Smashing Dimes
Date: 28 Jul 1997 00:53:58 -0700

On 7/27/97 11:51 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

>
>On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote:
>
>> Where is it in the rules that you cannot run a dime through a penny
>> machine? Sure, the rollers should be adjusted a bit to take the
>
> I seem to recall that I tried this on one machine back when I
>first started collecting and it didn't work. Since I would have ssaved
>ANY result, I believe the slide just wouldn't take the coin. I'll try it
>on future machines, though and see what happens.
>

Willy says he rolls silver dimes with great results. Not that I have a
bunch of silver dimes lying around. Maybe this works best on hand cranks
and not on Eurolinks or others with the slide that pushes the coins into
the machine... I'll look into it...

bc

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Smashing Dimes
Date: 28 Jul 1997 04:28:43 -0700

Bert Creighton wrote:

>
> Willy says he rolls silver dimes with great results. Not that I have a
> bunch of silver dimes lying around. Maybe this works best on hand cranks
> and not on Eurolinks or others with the slide that pushes the coins into
> the machine... I'll look into it...

Please allow me to clarify this issue:
When I roll dimes (silver or otherwise), it is on MY PERSONAL rolling
machines! I MUST adjust the pressure of the squish considerably, prior
to rolling different denominations of coinage.

While on the topic of ECs other than cents:
Coin rollers love to squish money! We'll flatten just about any coin or
token that we want our designs to reside on. Rolling higher
denominations result in higher inventory holding costs. When you add the
fact that there are usually a few wasted coins during the setup process,
it is easy to see why you don't see a lot of rolled halves and dollars.

I hope that this information is of some value to all on this wonderful
mailing list!
--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

*** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** *

P.S.
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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: (elongates) An informative adventure!
Date: 28 Jul 1997 09:28:41 -0400

Hi everybody,

My wife and I decided to leave Boston at 3:00pm Saturday to squish some
pennies in New York. We finally fell asleep in a New Jersey rest stop
at 4:00am. What's the result of this adventure? We mapped 3/4 of the
machines on the New Jersey turnpike, and have detailed information of
the World Trade Center in New York. Plus, we have the dealer's name who
does all the machines and contact information.

Alas, all the information is at home. I'll type it in tonight and mail it
tomorrow.
A couple of highlights:

Lords Prayer pennies!
Unicorn pennies!
I love you NY/New York pennies!

More information tomorrow. Yes, I picked up trading stock and stuff for
the people I owe pennies to (including the penny page!)

- Jeff

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Penny and DIME Machine location
Date: 28 Jul 1997 09:39:38 -0400

Yes, in a week or so. We had to postpone the trip for financial reasons.

- Jeff
At 12:59 AM 7/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
> This is the first report I have ever seen of an elongated dime
>machine. Anyone heading this way soon?
>
>> Subject: Re: CanAm RADP Squished Coin Alert!
>> From: dismusic@hotmail.com
>> Date: 1997/07/07
>> Message-Id: <868314491.30281@dejanews.com>
>> Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney.parks
>> [11][More Headers]
>>
>>
>> > The Floro Four-o just got back from trip to Niagara Falls and Toronto,
>> > and we stopped at the Rainbow Outlet Mall (US side) on our way home.
>> > Imagine the joy and/or surprise when I found a penny press *and* a dime
>> > press!
>> >
>> > So, RADP folk who are planning to head north for the August meet, you
>> > won't have to go squishie-less! <vbg>
>>
>> Don't worry!!! There's a squished coin press right on Clifton Hill - The
>> Street of Fun At The Falls!
>>
>> Trent
>>
>
>
>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
> Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
>The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
>List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
>Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
>"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~
>
>
>
>
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From: Pete Morelewicz <PMORELEW@hanley-wood.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM
Date: 28 Jul 1997 09:51:00 PDT

I tried sticking the guest register up to my computer screen to see if I
could capture the digital signature - but to no avail. I guess you have to
show up in person - we'd be glad to have you.

And thanks for the visit, Willy. I think it's only fair that we share part of
your entry with the rest o' the penny gang:

"I had a smashing time...".

(Truly a penny nut, huh?)

Pete

Pete,

Do you accept digital signatures? If so, can you log me as the 2nd to
sign the book!
Bert

On 7/28/97 3:11 AM William C. Massey (massey@clark.net ) wrote

>Hi Gang!
>
>Last night (Sunday), I had the dubious distinction of being the first to
>sign the guest book at the Squished Penny Museum (SPM) in Washington,
>D.C.

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) Big Al
Date: 28 Jul 1997 09:08:41 -0500

Just got home from a long weekend painting. Saw the note about who
found Big Al. I asked someone weeks ago about getting a set from Disney
World and someone emailed me with his address as well as another. Can't
find out who emailed me though. Will look around for it.

Janelle (Minnesota Flats)

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Big Al
Date: 28 Jul 1997 10:35:05 -0400

It was me! I'm taking care of the WDW stuff. :)
I'll wait an additional week in order for Chris Aahz, so he can share the joy!

- Jeff :)
At 09:08 AM 7/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Just got home from a long weekend painting. Saw the note about who
>found Big Al. I asked someone weeks ago about getting a set from Disney
>World and someone emailed me with his address as well as another. Can't
>find out who emailed me though. Will look around for it.
>
>Janelle (Minnesota Flats)
>
>
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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: (elongates) I didn't get my newsletter. :(
Date: 28 Jul 1997 11:02:30 -0400

Any ideas why I didn't get my TEC newsletter?

- Jeff

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) penny prices
Date: 28 Jul 1997 11:27:03 -0400

Hi Liz,

It is true. At the Boston Museum of Science, the following pennies are
currently available:
Planet penny.
Planetarium penny.

That's why I offered to do the trade that I did.

If anyone wants to see what they look like - check out the great penny page:
http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage

- Jeff :)

At 02:58 PM 7/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>If anyone has a price guied for elongates, could you look up the value of the
>following pennies....I want make an informed trade... Not that I don't trust
>you Jeff...
>
>Boston Museam of Science
>T-Rex non-zinc
>Space Shuttle with zinc

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Oddest/Biggest
Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:26:21 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-27 21:26:35 EDT, you write:

> Well, the oddest/largest so far in my collection must be a 1966
> British Half Penny. When elongated it's about the same size as an
> elongated Half Dollar (I've seen 'em although I don't have any). It's
> actually a Brazzell roll with a star and "Star/Silent/Studier". The
> design is pretty mundane, but the reverse is gorgeous with an old sailing
> ship on it.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

Sounds like a beauty!

-Bob Hoff
TEC#2033

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Monterey Location
Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:26:36 -0400 (EDT)

Hi;

Just got the address of the neat Monterey EC on "up the hill form Fisherman's
Warf". It's at the LeBlanc Gallery, 271 Alverado Mall Monterey, CA 93940
(408) 372-7756.

Bob Hoff
TEC #2033

P.S. I almost missed the EC machine in the basement of the Madonna Inn. It's
near the "Mens' Waterfall" :-) They have at least two.

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From: Pete Morelewicz <PMORELEW@hanley-wood.com>
Subject: (elongates) I didn't get my newsletter.
Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:12:00 PDT

If you are a fairly new member, Howard Sharkey will be sending out your
newsletter instead of Corey. Hence, there is some delay.
I haven't received mine from Sharkey either:(

Any ideas why I didn't get my TEC newsletter?

- Jeff

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) pennie prices
Date: 28 Jul 1997 14:15:09 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-26 15:46:10 EDT, you write:

<< BTW, I collect coin show elongates and do not have this one. I
would be more than happy to trade for it. If you do not have my trade
list, let me know and I'll e-mail it to you.
>>
Email me your trade list and I will think about it depending on what you
have...BTW this coin doesn't say RWD on it.... but there is a MH (?) on it.
It is so tiney I can't quite make it out... Thanks for the info!
Liz

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
Date: 28 Jul 1997 14:27:43 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-26 20:57:13 EDT, you write:

<<
I've never seen the Popeye coin and only know about it because an
employee told me they used to have one.
>>
Yup, that's the one....But it's a bad roll...part of the right end is
missing... The word "boardwalk" is made to look like a roller coaster with
little cars on top with popeye in a star along the botom. It's my very first
elongated pennie...so I wouldn't want to trade..I'm sure there is another one
out there that is a complete roll.
Liz

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From: Alan KITA <alkita@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out...
Date: 28 Jul 1997 11:53:10 -0800

Regarding Las Vegas...I just thought of this, but it is not necessarily
a "squished" coin or a "counter-stamped" coin, but Las Vegas has
available thousands of different "stamped" coins roughly the size of the
old dollar coins! And you just have to exchange one of your dollar
bills for one of these coins.

Alan

p/s I think I have different designs of these coins in my desk drawers
somewhere...these "coins" unfortunately are the only ones to have
escaped with me on my trips BACK from Vegas.

tink!!! wrote:
>
> i'm BACK!!!!!
>
> > 2) Las Vegas, NV. "Al Meranta" has machines in 10 locations -- 741
> > Autumn Moon Drlve, Las Vegas, NV 89123, Phone: 702.269.8131,
> > TEC#2010. (WIsh we'd had this info before Nikki left for Lost
> > Wages!)
>
> yeah! me, too;>
>
> so the good news is, i was able to check out barstow station again.
> and, ya'll guessed it...the bad news is, the machine is gone...*sniff*
>
> i asked at all the big casinos i hit, and none of them knew of any such
> machines. i thought that the kids areas would maybe have a couple, (i
> seem to make my money last a LOT longer in the kids area;>) as little
> souneirs for the cheap thrills, but no... oh, well. maybe i'll send
> them all nasty mail telling them of my disappointment (yeah, like
> that'll help)...
>
> pax!!!
> nikki
> --
> "There's still a part of me that's
> 16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards
> http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/
> dc.d f-- - s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i!

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM
Date: 28 Jul 1997 14:49:36 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-28 03:08:36 EDT, you write:

<<
Last night (Sunday), I had the dubious distinction of being the first to
sign the guest book at the Squished Penny Museum (SPM) in Washington,
D.C.
It was all that I had anticipated, and more! In fact, my all to short
visit lasted for four hours... they practically had to throw me out :)
>>

I feel a list trip coming on.....I go to college at Salisbury State College,
which is near DC. If anyone would like to meet me at this museam sometime
during the school year..let me know! I love museams.... Where exactly is it
located, btw?
Liz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM
Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:39:08 -0700

Hi,

I'm in! I hope to be in DC in Sept/Oct and would love to stop by and
spend time with the SPM.

Bert

:)

On 7/28/97 11:49 AM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote

>I feel a list trip coming on.....I go to college at Salisbury State College,
>which is near DC. If anyone would like to meet me at this museam sometime
>during the school year..let me know! I love museams.... Where exactly is it
>located, btw?
>Liz

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From: "tink!!!" <dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New Locations To Check Out...
Date: 28 Jul 1997 12:52:02 -0700

> Regarding Las Vegas...I just thought of this, but it is not
> necessarily a "squished" coin or a "counter-stamped" coin, but Las
> Vegas has available thousands of different "stamped" coins roughly
> the size of the old dollar coins! And you just have to exchange one
> of your dollar bills for one of these coins.

yeeeah!!! the dollar chips;> i brought one home with me. i threw down
a coulpe at that wheel of fortune table at treasure island (where i
stayed) and won 20 bucks;> i saved one of their dollar chips, how could
i not, it's got a skull and crossbones logo on it!!!

-nikki
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16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards
http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/
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From: Pete Morelewicz <PMORELEW@hanley-wood.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM
Date: 28 Jul 1997 16:45:00 PDT

Okay, here's the scoop.
The SPM is located right in the heart of DC, about 1 1/2 miles due north of
the White House. However, sometime in August we are moving. The new location
will be about 1 1/2 miles northwest of the White House, right in the lung of
DC. The move will afford us a bigger place to live and a bigger space for the
museum to thrive. As your plans solidify, let me know a date and we'll do the
First Annual EAST Coast List Meet and BBQ.

And if anyone is planning on coming before that, just call: 202-986-5644 (we
are retaining that number when we move). I will provide the pertinent
address info to The List once we've completed the closing on the new digs.

And thanks for the enthusiasm!

Pete
Hi,

I'm in! I hope to be in DC in Sept/Oct and would love to stop by and
spend time with the SPM.
Bert

>I feel a list trip coming on.....
>Liz

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From: Alan KITA <alkita@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
Date: 28 Jul 1997 14:13:27 -0800

Off the I-5 at the junction with Hwy 33 (I think) is Harris Ranch and
Restaurant. They produce their own beef, which is quite good and you
can buy it fresh....sorry to digress.

Their machine is away from the reaturants near the restrooms. I'm not
sure what was on it.

Alan

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Big Al
Date: 28 Jul 1997 17:16:42 -0400

James Henry wrote:
>
> Just got home from a long weekend painting. Saw the note about who
> found Big Al. I asked someone weeks ago about getting a set from Disney
> World and someone emailed me with his address as well as another. Can't
> find out who emailed me though. Will look around for it.
>
> Janelle (Minnesota Flats)

Hi Janelle...

I think I sent Big Al's address and one other also: PinocProd@aol.com

BTW I ordered a couple of Disney quarters from Big Al. The quarters are
quite nice and arrived very quickly too.

Ben mcsquare@erols.com

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
Date: 28 Jul 1997 18:41:07 -0400 (EDT)

> Their machine is away from the reaturants near the restrooms. I'm not
> sure what was on it.

Mine says only Harris Ranch large type horizontal with "ranch" inset and in
small letters "Inn & Resturant" below. It is circa Aug. 1995. May have
changed since.

Alan is right on...very good steaks and roast beef sandwiches..... great
lunch stop!

-Bob Hoff
TEC# 2033

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
Date: 28 Jul 1997 16:01:10 -0700

Hi,

My coin is the same. Try the Harris Ranch breakfast of scrambled eggs and
corned beef hash! It is excellent. OK, so the 3rd Mailing List trip will
be to Harris Ranch, a true Oasis!

Bert

On 7/28/97 3:41 PM R0BERTH0FF@aol.com (R0BERTH0FF@aol.com ) wrote

>Mine says only Harris Ranch large type horizontal with "ranch" inset and in
>small letters "Inn & Resturant" below. It is circa Aug. 1995. May have
>changed since.
>
>Alan is right on...very good steaks and roast beef sandwiches..... great
>lunch stop!

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Subject: RE: (elongates) I didn't get my newsletter. :(
Date: 28 Jul 1997 18:13:28 -0500

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I didn't get mine either! :(
I'm in Dallas. Maybe it just takes longer.
...
trueWeb Design
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From: "zinful" <zinful@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
Date: 28 Jul 1997 17:01:32 -0000

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> From: Alan KITA <alkita@earthlink.net>
> To: elongates@mail.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
> Date: Monday, July 28, 1997 10:13 PM
>
> Off the I-5 at the junction with Hwy 33 (I think) is Harris Ranch and
> Restaurant. They produce their own beef, which is quite good and you
> can buy it fresh....sorry to digress.
>
> Their machine is away from the reaturants near the restrooms. I'm not
> sure what was on it.
>
> Alan

It is lettering only "Harris Ranch/Inn and Restaurant"
Gina

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From: "tink!!!" <dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net>
Subject: (elongates) cleaning
Date: 28 Jul 1997 18:17:05 -0700

so i was just looking at my littel collection, and it struck me (OW!)
that they all look a little grimey. how do you folx recommend cleaning
your squished pennies. i have a dremmel tool with a wire brush
attachment, and i have those green scrubbie pads, but i was wondering
what others use. also, should i clean them before i squish them? does
anyone do this and has noticed a difference?

pax!
nikki
--
"There's still a part of me that's
16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards
http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/
dc.d f-- - s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i!

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From: "zinful" <zinful@prodigy.net>
Subject: (elongates) Lords Prayer
Date: 28 Jul 1997 17:16:53 -0000

Hello All,
Just a few things. Chris I know you are looking for the Lords Prayer.
There is a catalog by Doug Fairbanks and it is huge. It lists over 8,000
coins and there are quite a few Lords Prayers with lots of variations.
Some are on pennies, others on dimes, nickels, steel cents, tokens, etc.

Other topics include coin shows, religious, space related,
storecards/advertising, collectors/engravers, presidents, states,
airplanes, organizations, oldies, foreign coins, worlds fairs, expos, Mardi
Gras, comics, fantasy, etc. I could go on and on and on.

Anyways - the catalog is $7.50 and he buys, sells and trades.

Doug Fairbanks Sr.
5937 Beadle Drive
Jamesville, NY 13078
315 469-4682
"Collector Extra-Ordinare"

Gina

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
Date: 28 Jul 1997 19:23:03 -0700 (PDT)

Liz,

I won't try to beg this one away from you (at the moment 8-), but
do you have any way of scanning it? Or could you possibly send me a
photocopy of it? BTW, you will find the current Boardwalk coin on my
trade list.

Peace,

Aahz

On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 97-07-26 20:57:13 EDT, you write:
>
> <<
> I've never seen the Popeye coin and only know about it because an
> employee told me they used to have one.
> >>
> Yup, that's the one....But it's a bad roll...part of the right end is
> missing... The word "boardwalk" is made to look like a roller coaster with
> little cars on top with popeye in a star along the botom. It's my very first
> elongated pennie...so I wouldn't want to trade..I'm sure there is another one
> out there that is a complete roll.
> Liz
>
>

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Re: Online support in TEC News (fwd)
Date: 28 Jul 1997 19:29:23 -0700 (PDT)

As some of you may recall there were recently several messages
here on the list about getting more 'net information into TEC News. I
have been forwarding all of these comments to Corey Wylde - TEC News
Editor. His response is below. Your comments are welcome.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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Typical of today's cyberlings, Kathy is missing the true fabric of the TEC
club. Many folks with a ton to contribute to the hobby have no access to
computers. In today's "I won't wait for anything" culture Many things of true
value are overlooked and passed by. I think it's a shame. While Tec will
endeavor to meet the needs of all its constituents, all should be encouraged
to paricipate in BOTH forms of communication. Also, the rich history of the
hobby is embodied primarily in those who don't embrace computers. The best
articles I receive are hand or type written. For those who can't wait, the
future holds lessons which have already been learned by those who go before.
I think we should learn from them, don't you?

After rereading this note, its tone sounds confrontational. That is not my
intent -- only to enlighten.

Please let me know your thoughts. Obviously, I support the Net.

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From: ... <...>
Subject: RE: (elongates) cleaning
Date: 28 Jul 1997 21:30:10 -0500

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There's a lot of different advice on my FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions):
http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/faq.htm#How do I clean my copper pennies . . . ?

My favorite method is:
soak them in vinegar (or smother with ketchup)
and polish them with salt or baking powder

I've found that it's best to clean them up before pressing 'em.

-...
The Penny Page

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so i was just looking at my littel collection, and it struck me (OW!)
that they all look a little grimey. how do you folx recommend cleaning
your squished pennies. i have a dremmel tool with a wire brush
attachment, and i have those green scrubbie pads, but i was wondering
what others use. also, should i clean them before i squish them? does
anyone do this and has noticed a difference?

pax!
nikki
--
"There's still a part of me that's
16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards
http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Re: Online support in TEC News (fwd)
Date: 28 Jul 1997 19:49:07 -0700 (PDT)

And here is my response to Corey's message. Again, comments are welcome.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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Cc: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>

On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 WSons@aol.com wrote:

> Typical of today's cyberlings, Kathy is missing the true fabric of the TEC
> club.

Apparently I am missing this as well then. Perhaps you could
enlighten me. I thought TEC was about sharing information between
collectors. As I recall Kathy's comments she mentioned that without the
'net she would not found TEC, that she thought TEC News should be
published more often (which I agree with), and that she supported the
idea of a regluar column on 'Net happenings in TEC News. I don't see
what fails to capture the true fabric of TEC.
The internet is a wonderful way to share information. It is not,
by any means the only way. No one has called for abandoning TEC News. We
just want to share information with people. The members that are on the
'net a recommunicating with each other. We would like a way to
communicate with the other members as well. As far as I know the only
way to do this is thru TEC News. We're talking about adding to it, not
replacing it or any of its current contents. How is this a problem?

> Many folks with a ton to contribute to the hobby have no access to
> computers. In today's "I won't wait for anything" culture Many things of true
> value are overlooked and passed by. I think it's a shame. While Tec will
> endeavor to meet the needs of all its constituents, all should be encouraged
> to paricipate in BOTH forms of communication.

I agree with the majority of this statement. The call for the
'net column is about encouraging members to participate in BOTH forms of
communication. There have been several calls for articles in TEC News.
Those articels are now being rejected simply because some of the long
time members are not able to use the information they provide. However,
you seem to be overlooking the large number of users that CAN benefit
from them. Those who are not interested in these articles can easily
skip over them. Again, we are looking to make TEC News larger and more
comprehensive. We are not trying to replace any current content.

> Also, the rich history of the
> hobby is embodied primarily in those who don't embrace computers. The best
> articles I receive are hand or type written. For those who can't wait, the
> future holds lessons which have already been learned by those who go before.
> I think we should learn from them, don't you?

ABSOLUTELY!!! My favorite regular column in TEC News is Martin's
Mutterings. The more information these people are willing to share, the
more I will listen (or read) what they have to say. I just don't see how
excluding information about current happenings helps these people share
their wealth of knowledge. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

>
> After rereading this note, its tone sounds confrontational. That is not my
> intent -- only to enlighten.
>
E-mail gets that way sometimes. I did not take your note as
confrontational and I hope you do not take my reply that way. I have
VERY strong feelings about this matter and that often comes out in my
writing. I am very frustrated at the moment because I really don't
understand where you are coming from n this. I WANT to understand, but I
don't yet.

> Please let me know your thoughts. Obviously, I support the Net.

You may be sorry you asked for my thoughts after reading the
above 8-)

Personally, I don't find it obvious that you support the
'net. You use it, that is obvious, but I do not see you supporting its
use in elongate collecting. You may well be doing so in forums that I am
unaware of, but I have not seen any evidence of this other then that you
correspond and accept submissions via e-mail.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) SPM
Date: 28 Jul 1997 22:51:02 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-28 18:56:17 EDT, you write:

<< As your plans solidify, let me know a date and we'll do the
First Annual EAST Coast List Meet and BBQ. >>

I have one problem...no car and no driver's licence...does anyone want to
pick me up at SSU????? Please???? (It's a long story about the driver's
licence....I didn't lose it, I just never got one....) I know this is a
long shot!!!
Liz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning
Date: 28 Jul 1997 20:04:32 -0700

Niki,

Various things like katsup act as a mild acid. My recommendation for
these kinds of cleaners is use them before squishing. Anytime you polish
after squishing you begin to wear down the design. You can use a little
Brasso to clean pennies that have been squished - it works more as an
abrasive rather than an acid. Putting acidic chemicals on a squished
penny will start to pit it. I'm not saying don't do, try it on something
that is not your best penny.

I have been experimenting with pennies that have a heavy brown patina on
them. I smashed one at the San Diego aerospace museum (design of the
Spirit of St. Louis). I then used an eraser to lightly go over the raised
lines of the plane, and I got something I would call an "artsy" penny. I
looks more like a bronze sculpture when some parts are polished where
people touch them. I still like most of my coins polished, but it is fun
to have some classic designs on patina pennies, and the more you touch
them the more they age...

Bert

On 7/28/97 6:17 PM tink!!! (dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net ) wrote

>so i was just looking at my littel collection, and it struck me (OW!)
>that they all look a little grimey. how do you folx recommend cleaning
>your squished pennies. i have a dremmel tool with a wire brush
>attachment, and i have those green scrubbie pads, but i was wondering
>what others use. also, should i clean them before i squish them? does
>anyone do this and has noticed a difference?
>
>pax!
>nikki

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 28 Jul 1997 23:01:32 -0400 (EDT)

Hey...it seams like everyone wants photoes of my collection....Does anyone
have any advice/experience with photographing elongates??? I am a real
amature with photography...but my parents have a good camera. Can anyone
help?
Liz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Lords Prayer
Date: 28 Jul 1997 20:05:01 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, zinful wrote:

> Hello All,
> Just a few things. Chris I know you are looking for the Lords Prayer.
> There is a catalog by Doug Fairbanks and it is huge. It lists over 8,000
> coins and there are quite a few Lords Prayers with lots of variations.
> Some are on pennies, others on dimes, nickels, steel cents, tokens, etc.

Thanx for the info. I have not seen Doug's catalog, but he and I
are working on a deal for the LP issues he has.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 SECA-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 28 Jul 1997 20:14:08 -0700

Liz,

Do you have access to a scanner at school. That's one way to do it and
not have the cost os photography. How many are we talking about? Maybe
someone on the list could help you out.

Bert

On 7/28/97 8:01 PM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote

>Hey...it seams like everyone wants photoes of my collection....Does anyone
>have any advice/experience with photographing elongates??? I am a real
>amature with photography...but my parents have a good camera. Can anyone
>help?
>Liz

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) newsletter
Date: 28 Jul 1997 22:15:47 -0500

My daughter hasn't got her newsletter either.

Janelle (Minnesota Flats)

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) newsletter
Date: 28 Jul 1997 20:26:31 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, James Henry wrote:

> My daughter hasn't got her newsletter either.
>
> Janelle (Minnesota Flats)
>
>
Would that be 'Baby Flats' or 'Little Flats'?

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From: "tink!!!" <dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning
Date: 28 Jul 1997 21:06:09 -0700

thanx kathy and bert for the advice on cleaning!!! and kathy, thanx for
putting your page addy up, somehow, i seem to have missed it up until
now;>

pax!!!
nikki
--
"There's still a part of me that's
16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards
http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/
dc.d f-- - s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i!

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) newsletter
Date: 28 Jul 1997 21:24:08 -0700

Aahz,

Careful my friend! You could start a Flats Domino reaction here!

bc

On 7/28/97 8:26 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

>
>On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, James Henry wrote:
>
>> My daughter hasn't got her newsletter either.
>>
>> Janelle (Minnesota Flats)
>>
>>
> Would that be 'Baby Flats' or 'Little Flats'?

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) newsletter
Date: 29 Jul 1997 00:44:52 -0700

James Henry wrote:
>
> My daughter hasn't got her newsletter either.
>
> Janelle (Minnesota Flats)

I emailed Corey about a friend of mine who didn't get his son's either.
Here is the significant portion of his reply:

> As a result your friend's son will be rightfully
> added. Please direct any other inquiries you may receive directly to Howard
> as he has the database. I think he does a superb job. This is just a way to
> help him clean up his records since his computer crash this Spring.

--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

*** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** *

P.S.
Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: (elongates) E ya Later :)
Date: 29 Jul 1997 00:55:39 -0700

Hi Gang!

It pains me to inform you all that I will have to be signing off of this
wonderful email list for a couple of days :(

Please feel free to email me directly if you have ANY pressing
concerns... Although don't expect to get a speedy reply.

--Willy
--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

*** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** *

P.S.
Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Rosato's wanted ad:
Date: 29 Jul 1997 00:11:10 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings and Salutations!

In the current issue of TEC News, Angelo Rosato is advertising a
number of coins he is looking to purchase. Of course, he only lists them
by the code numbers from his book (which I still can't afford). Could
anybody who has Rosato's book send me a brief description of each of the
coins in his ad? I know there's a lot, but I just need enough to know if
I'm somewhat close. I have coins rolled by most of these people, I just
don't know what designs he wants. I would be happy to offer goodies in
return (or a finders fee if a make a sale)

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Matthew Birchard <psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Rosato's wanted ad:
Date: 29 Jul 1997 00:53:41 -0700 (PDT)

Chris,
Here they are. I actually have 2 copies of his encyclopedia, one
never openned, still in shrinkwrap. I plan to sit on it for a number of
years until he sells out and the value of mine will increase. Anyway,
the code numbers and their descriptions:

DOW-79: Same as DOW-2, except die re-engraved with larger type: 2ND
ANNUAL/CONVENTION/PHOENIX/1966. Initials DD, right of date. -2nd
progressive single die variety. (see DOW-80, 120). Dotted border.
Listed mintage: 10 cents.

BRO-3: Maple leaf made up of 11 small triangles. -Above; EXPO 67,
Below stem; 1867/ CENT. OF CAN. CONFED. First of a progressive single
die variety. See BRO-4. Listed mintage: 6 cents.

COO-1: Ornate scroll lines throughout legend. -A Christmas card
elongated card: FIRST/ROLLED/ELONGATED/BY/ADAM J.
COOL/MERRY/CHRISTMAS/12-10-74. (see ROS-352). Listed mintage: 15 cents.

HOE-5: Same die as HOE-4, except die is re-engraved. It says
"Watergate UGH!" with large initials, L.M. Listed mintage: 3 cents.

Anyway, my legs are going numb from having about ten pounds of book
sitting on them. As you can tell, all of the coins he wants have VERY
low mintages. Most being progressive single die varieties. It surprises
me a bit that he is offering to buy some of his own issues.

Matt Birchard
TEC #1848
Portland, Oregon
USA

e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning
Date: 29 Jul 1997 12:57:32 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-29 00:08:25 EDT, you write:

<<
so i was just looking at my littel collection, and it struck me (OW!)
that they all look a little grimey. how do you folx recommend cleaning
your squished pennies. i have a dremmel tool with a wire brush
attachment, and i have those green scrubbie pads, but i was wondering
what others use. also, should i clean them before i squish them? does
anyone do this and has noticed a difference?
>>
I have a great answer to this one..... pennies can be cleaned using a
mixture of lemon juice and salt...say about 1/4 cup of lemon juice and a
teaspoon of salt.
Soak the pennie for a minute and rince with water. I have never tried it on
an elongated pennie...so I would suggest cleaning the pennie before it is
squashed.
Also...I would wash one pennie at a time... the lemon/salt mixture will get
dirty. When it does make some more. The dirty lemon/salt will just make the
pennie more dirty. It works like magick! Liz

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Online support in TEC News (fwd)
Date: 29 Jul 1997 13:02:57 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-29 01:47:05 EDT, you write:

<<
After rereading this note, its tone sounds confrontational. That is not my
intent -- only to enlighten.

Please let me know your thoughts. Obviously, I support the Net.
>>
I support the net too. If TEC doesn't get at least a web page they will go
the way of the dodo! Besides, newsleters waist trees... the web/internet is
more environmentaly friendly! Just my 2 cents...
Liz

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 29 Jul 1997 13:13:37 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-29 05:49:41 EDT, you write:

<<
Liz,

Do you have access to a scanner at school. That's one way to do it and
not have the cost os photography. How many are we talking about? Maybe
someone on the list could help you out.
>>
I don't think there is a scaner at school, but I do have "connections" with
the computer department.....I could ask around. Would I just stick the
pennie on the scaner and shut the lid?? Most of my pennies are a little
curved. I don't think that would turn out good. I have about 40 pennies.
Liz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 29 Jul 1997 11:06:31 -0700

Hi,

Yes, just put them on the scanner, close the lid and you are off and
running. Some of my coins are curved and I have never had a problem with
this. Actually, the curve allows a 'highlight' to show up in the image,
so you can see the shape as well as the detail.

<Shameless plug coming...> I use an Apple OneScanner and it has some
simple software with it. I push one button and the whole thing is done
for me. Sometimes I go in with a paint program (Photoshop...) and remove
some of the shadow caused by the curved coins...

Talk to your computer science friends. Once they set you up, you could
run all your coins through at once. If you need any HTML help, just ask
the list, several of us can assist there as well.

Good luck with the scanning, let us know how it goes... (Oh, I think some
Kinko's stores around the country have scanners hooked up to their
computers. Not sure about the costs, but wanted to pass that info
along...)

Finally, to keep this all above board, I do work for Apple and do love
their products. Just so you all know where I am coming from when I
mention things. Computers are just tools! Nothin' more. My views do not
reflect my employer, they are solely my personal comments.

Happy Scanning!

Bert

On 7/29/97 10:13 AM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote

>In a message dated 97-07-29 05:49:41 EDT, you write:
>
><<
> Liz,
>
> Do you have access to a scanner at school. That's one way to do it and
> not have the cost os photography. How many are we talking about? Maybe
> someone on the list could help you out.
> >>
>I don't think there is a scaner at school, but I do have "connections" with
>the computer department.....I could ask around. Would I just stick the
>pennie on the scaner and shut the lid?? Most of my pennies are a little
>curved. I don't think that would turn out good. I have about 40 pennies.
>Liz

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning
Date: 29 Jul 1997 14:04:53 -0400

I still find good ol' brass polish to work the best.
All the mystic voodoo of lemon and ketchup stuff gets my hands all gunky. :)

- Jeff

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411 Waverley Oaks Road
Waltham, MA 02154

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 29 Jul 1997 14:10:37 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-29 14:05:34 EDT, you write:

<<
Talk to your computer science friends. Once they set you up, you could
run all your coins through at once. If you need any HTML help, just ask
the list, several of us can assist there as well. >>

Thanks for the info...I will check into the scaner when I get to school...in
Sept...so don't hold your breth... Thanks again..
Liz

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) cleaning
Date: 29 Jul 1997 14:12:26 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-29 14:08:24 EDT, you write:

<<
I still find good ol' brass polish to work the best.
All the mystic voodoo of lemon and ketchup stuff gets my hands all gunky. :)
>>

I'm into mystic and voodoo....and on that note...are there any pagan relgious
elongated coins?? Pentacles and the such...???? I'd love to get one, if
there are any? Liz

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From: Matthew Birchard <psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Online support in TEC News (fwd)
Date: 29 Jul 1997 11:17:12 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote:

> I support the net too. If TEC doesn't get at least a web page they will go
> the way of the dodo! Besides, newsleters waist trees... the web/internet is
> more environmentaly friendly! Just my 2 cents...
> Liz
>
Not to burst your bubble or anything, but perhaps had you thought about
the amount of electrical power needed to support the massive
infrastructure of the 'net? And then that begs the question, how is that
power generated? Sometimes through some not so environmentally friendly
means. Solamente mi dos centavos...

Matt Birchard
TEC #1848
Portland, Oregon
USA

e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) TEC Thoughts (Thanks Liz)
Date: 29 Jul 1997 11:40:55 -0700

Liz,

Thanks for your comments. I completely agree with you. This is not an
"us" against "them" discussion, as Corey's email describes it. I don't
know how we got off on that track, but I hope we all can get back to a
centerline, sharing info about our hobby and getting together
(Disneyland, Squished Penny Museum, Harris Ranch, ANA meets, etc.) to
meet each other.

My wife's great grandmother is in her 80s and she keeps in touch each
week via email. Writing 20 letters with the same information would be
hard for her. She uses the phone and email to keep in touch with family
across the US. Does that make her a 'cyberling?' (Hope we can end the
name calling real soon now!)

As I said in an earlier email, computers are a communications tool. To
attack a tool that helps us share our common interests is wrong. No one
on this list (as far as I can research) ever said anything against US
Postal mail, TEC Newsletter or our TEC members that have a wealth of
experience. The opposite is true! We have been asking to include more
info in the TEC Newsletter as a way of tieing together our various forms
of communication. I have learned so much from Willy (hope he's feeling'
better soon!), Chris Aahz, ... and many others - all via the
net. I have also learned a great deal from Willy, Jack Wilcox, Allen
Curtis, Ray Dillard (I could go on and on) all from back issues of TEC
Newsletter that Howard Sharkey was kind enough to send me (THANKS
Howard!).

For the non-TEC members of this email list, sorry if this is off the
topic of what you signed up to read -- I do hope you will join us TEC
members soon. For the TEC members, I hope you all will join Liz and send
in your comments. My personal opinion: I hope we can get past the name
calling and find some ways to join together around our hobby (passion).
So, how can we do that?

First, TEC needs to publish a membership roster so we all know who we
are. I have no idea if there's anybody else in San Diego that I can meet
in person. I have no idea how to write to TEC members that know a whole
lot more about things than I do. I have no idea how to ask for help (of
TEC members) in certain areas of the country where I am trying to get
Elongated machine locations. A roster is a vital part of our
organization. A roster could include info the members are willing to
share such as being a roller, a dealer, an engraver and/or designer, or
willing to give advice/experience in certain areas.

Second, we need an additional (new) section in TEC Newsletter that
explains what is available to all members via email, web sites, etc. A
primer on how to get started could be included in the TEC Newsletter. I
am willing to bet there are a few of us on this list that would be
willing to advise members how to get started if they wanted to try this
out (I will be the first to offer help). Once and for all, let's all
agree age is NOT related to using email or the worldwide web.

Third, and related to the last suggestion, let's bring the important
information from the online community to those without access. If TEC
members without web access knew I had a Smashed Coin Locator, they could
send me a SASE and I would be more than happy to print any pages and send
them out. So someone with no web access could say 'Bert, I'd like to get
your San Diego elonagted machine locations' and I could send them a
printed copy (which is what I take to Disneyland to update my locations).
Again, we need a published roster where I can offer this to the
membership.

Fourth, we need to harness the worldwide nature of the net to bring new
members into TEC. Willy Massey has done a great job of describing TEC on
his web pages and even put up a sign-up form (which I used to become a
member). Again, this is synergy, not confrontation. With new members,
we'll get new articles written, new locations, new coin issues. I have
mentioned (I believe) that recently a famous artist was looking at my web
pages and found a roller's web site. This lead to the artist
commissioning 2 new dies, which we all will soon get to see (and collect
pennies from!). Hey, that sounds like a great short story for the TEC
Newsletter.

Finally, let's get off the computer vs US Post Office Mail discussion.
Dead end. Division causing discussion, nuff said! If we had a roster,
with phone numbers, Fax numbers, email addresses, web page URL's and
street addresses (what ever members are interested in publishing) we
could ALL stay in touch better. I would love to know some of the TEC
members with years of experience would be willing to take a 20 minute
call and talk to me about a certain topic (I'd pay for the call). It
would be wonderful if I could fax some info to a TEC member that might
need it just before leaving on a collecting trip. I was lucky enough to
go to Hawaii recently on business. After returning, I was sent some penny
locations I did not know about. Wish I had them before I left! A roster
would have helped me in my collecting!

To summarize, we need to work towards a common purpose of enjoying
elongated coins. Bringing the best of tools together to get information
out to everyone is the goal. I hope we can start at once on a roster of
members, how they like to be contacted, and what they would like to offer
other TEC members (lists of machines locations, etc). I hope we can get
TEC to work on a Elongated Coin Locator service, which could be available
on the web, sent via SASE request to Howard or the Locator Keeper, etc.
The TEC Newsletter has been a wonderful way to learn about so many
aspects of elongated coins and collectors. Let's add a new section that
explains additional ways to stay in touch, AND brings new elongated
articles to all TEC readers. Let's hear what you all think...

Bert Creighton
TEC #2095
Join TEC!

On 7/29/97 10:02 AM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote

>In a message dated 97-07-29 01:47:05 EDT, you write:
>
><<
> After rereading this note, its tone sounds confrontational. That is not my
> intent -- only to enlighten.
>
> Please let me know your thoughts. Obviously, I support the Net.
> >>
>I support the net too. If TEC doesn't get at least a web page they will go
>the way of the dodo! Besides, newsleters waist trees... the web/internet is
>more environmentaly friendly! Just my 2 cents...
>Liz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 29 Jul 1997 20:36:56 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> Good luck with the scanning, let us know how it goes... (Oh, I think some
> Kinko's stores around the country have scanners hooked up to their
> computers. Not sure about the costs, but wanted to pass that info
> along...)

My local Kinko's management freaked HARD when they heard I was
gonna place coins on their scanner. They were utterly convinved that
there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. <sigh>

Just thought I'd forewarn y'all.

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) New pennies at MN Zoo
Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:43:43 -0500

Just got back from the Minnesota Zoo. Those guys added a new machine
this last month with 3 new pennies for a total of 18 out there. The new
ones are 1)Starfish 2) Arthur Octopus 3) Sophie Shrimp. If you want
the new ones to add to the others you have, let me know as I will be
making a trip again in a week or two. Bert, Jeff, and David McD. will
have all 18 in your packages so you don't need to let me know. Zinful,
you will get all 18 in your package as well. Believe it or not, I ran
out of pre 82 pennies today. Had enough to make 3 full sets and 3 extra
new ones for "Little Flats" my daughter and that was it!!

Minnesota Flats

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New pennies at MN Zoo
Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:14:57 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, James Henry wrote:

> Just got back from the Minnesota Zoo. Those guys added a new machine
> this last month with 3 new pennies for a total of 18 out there. The new
> ones are 1)Starfish 2) Arthur Octopus 3) Sophie Shrimp. If you want
> the new ones to add to the others you have, let me know as I will be

Guess Corey's right, patience IS a virtue. I acted fast and
missed out on the three new coins. Anywayz, you know I want these!
Oddly enough, I haven't been anywhere NEAR Minnesota since starting to
collect and the Minnesota section of my binders has more coins then any
state but California!!

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC Thoughts (Thanks Liz)
Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:23:59 -0700 (PDT)

Bert,

As always you get a good message across very well. Personally, I
do not think Corey meant to be insulting. I did find the message rather
demeaning, but I do not think it was intentional. I do think it shows
that he thinks of those on the 'net as children.

You several times mentioned the need for a roster. We've both
kind of stepped in it here. Corey's column (Stretched Sense) in the last
TEC News mentions that a list of names and addresses is available for
$3. I will be sending off a check this evening and will provide anyone
who wants a copy free of charge (most likely via FAX or snail mail as I
expect it to be pretty long to type in immediately).

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC Thoughts (Thanks Liz)
Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:40:35 -0700

Hi,

Steppin' in it is my life! You too will be steppin' in it when you get to
Harris Ranch. There's a cow lot near there that will fill your car with a
certain natural purfume that will last for days!

Can you tell me what date is on the last TEC Newsletter. I am starting to
think I missed the last one. Can't remember when the first one showed
up...

I also thought they's put my TEC # somewhere in the ascii, and I'd find
it any report it to Howard and I'd get a reward in the mail. Never saw my
number?

Thanks for the date on the last issue...

bc

On 7/29/97 9:23 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

> You several times mentioned the need for a roster. We've both
>kind of stepped in it here. Corey's column (Stretched Sense) in the last
>TEC News mentions that a list of names and addresses is available for
>$3. I will be sending off a check this evening and will provide anyone
>who wants a copy free of charge (most likely via FAX or snail mail as I
>expect it to be pretty long to type in immediately).

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Re: Online support in TEC News (fwd)
Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:32:58 -0700 (PDT)

The final segment in the soap opera I have made you all sit
through between me and Corey.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
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In a message dated 97-07-29 00:55:20 EDT, you write:

<< You may well be doing so in forums that I am
unaware of, but I have not seen any evidence of this other then that you
correspond and accept submissions via e-mail. >>

Reread this months "Stretched Sense" column. I cannot reiterate LOUDLY
enough, the greatest challenge which faces clubs like ours is uniting the
older with the younger. Patience IS a virtue. THink of what your article in
September will encompass compared to your mid-June submission. I suggested to
Bert to write a primer column for the unsophisticated. I expect he will.

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC Thoughts (Thanks Liz)
Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:51:17 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> Can you tell me what date is on the last TEC Newsletter. I am starting to
> think I missed the last one. Can't remember when the first one showed
> up...

The current ish is vol. 32, No. 3 Summer 1997 (Jul-Sep). The
last ish was Spring 1997 (Apr-Jun). It comes out quarterly, with Winter
starting off the year in January.

>
> I also thought they's put my TEC # somewhere in the ascii, and I'd find
> it any report it to Howard and I'd get a reward in the mail. Never saw my
> number?

Wll, they skipped right by me, too! But odds are lucky number
2107 is out on the 'net somewhere.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) List digesting SOON!
Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:57:38 -0700 (PDT)

Okay, as proof that I'm doing what I can to get the digest running I'm
forwarding the message I received from my netrep this morning. He didn't
do it today (as far as I know), so hopefully tomorrow.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
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On Tue, Jul 29, 1997 at 09:32:38AM -0600, Chris Aahz wrote:
> Bill,
>
> You helped me set up my mailing list (elongates) because my
> browser couldn't use the web forms properly. I need help again. Traffic
> has increased dramatically on the list and I NEED to add a digest version
> of the list. I sent you a message last thursday, but have not heard from
> you and things are getting pretty desperate.
>
> How do I set up the digest version of my list? I'd like to call
> it elongates-digest.
>
> Your help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

Sorry about the delay, I've been buried. I'll get the digest set up
today and drop you a note when it's ready.

Bill

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 30 Jul 1997 01:02:19 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-30 00:57:27 EDT, you write:

<<
My local Kinko's management freaked HARD when they heard I was
gonna place coins on their scanner. They were utterly convinved that
there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. <sigh>
>>
So did they let you do it??
Liz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 29 Jul 1997 22:17:29 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 97-07-30 00:57:27 EDT, you write:
>
> <<
> My local Kinko's management freaked HARD when they heard I was
> gonna place coins on their scanner. They were utterly convinved that
> there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. <sigh>
> >>
> So did they let you do it??
> Liz
>
>

Oops! I guess I should limit myself to doing only three or four
things at once.

No, they wouldn't let me. I even invoked the name of the former
manager (I used to work at Kinko's) but this still did no good. It was
little ol' me versus the four person graveyard staff. I lost 8-(

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Matthew Birchard <psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: (elongates) TEC roster
Date: 30 Jul 1997 01:11:54 -0700 (PDT)

Hey folks!
The membership roster idea I gave a lot of thought. If you take
a look at the previous issue of TEC News (Spring 1997), you can read the
article I authored on the subject. I did my homework on this, quoted a
bunch from the TEC By-Laws, and everything. Corey published my page and
a half article, but that was about all. The only response I really got
was this short paragraph that sort of addressed the issue, but it was not
directed at me, instead it was a general statement from Gus in the
"...From the President's Desk" column.
"Membership rosters are available. Send $3.00 to Howard Sharkey
to cover copying and mailing costs and he will send you one. Please use
the list for correspondence and not soliciting. We always need new
members. Sign up somebody soon."
Personally I didn't like the tone of that paragraph. If you'd
have read my article you'd find that I clearly think the roster should be
free to all members, and that I address the constant "hounding" from the
TEC leadership about needing new members without any reporting of our
current ranks. But there it is in the same breath. The roster is not
free and MORE MEMBERS! Now go get'em! Perhaps we (as a club) could gain
more members if we were online.
I just seem to be butting heads with the TEC leadership. But
whatcha gonna do? Perhaps I'll run for office, maybe for a board of
directors position so that some fresh ideas could be interjected into the
leadership of the organization.
Hope I don't piss anyone off with my thoughts and comments, but I
don't really care one way or the other. BTW, the term "cyberling" would
probably fit me quite well. I'm 20 years of age, but I've been a TEC
member for going on 5 years now and I've been collecting since '82. A
club is for it's members. It seems that the vocal minority (I guess
those of us that are technically proficient are the minority, I keep
getting told so) is pushing for a more forward thinking TEC. If members
of TEC don't want to change, well they should speak up. The last few
issues of TEC News have contained a lot of info on moving the club
forward, both with the 'net and other ways such as the membership
roster. Any member can write an article. The general membership should
be discussing these ideas. Apathy is close to premission. At the end of
my article I invited any member to comment and let the members of TEC
know what they thought. Nothing was published and I only received one
letter from someone that I had previously bought something from, so they
had my address.

Matt Birchard
TEC #1848
Portland, Oregon
USA

e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu

snail mail:
Matt Birchard
4435 NE 73RD AVE
PORTLAND, OR 97218-3630
USA

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC roster
Date: 30 Jul 1997 01:36:59 -0700 (PDT)

Matt,

I didn't connect the name, but I thoroughly enjoyed your article
in TECN!

I'm not sure exactly how long you've been on the mailing list,
but there has been a fair amount of discussion of TEC's current
failings. This list is an open forum! I encourage messages from the
heart such as your most recent post. You may get attacked by subscribers
for your views (although I think most subscribers who care agree with
them), but you certainly won't be told by any 'list offical' (all of whom
are me ;) that you shouldn't post your thoughts!

On to the issues you raised:

> I did my homework on this, quoted a
> bunch from the TEC By-Laws, and everything. Corey published my page and
> a half article, but that was about all.

The official response to this would be space constraints, I am
sure. And this is often a legitimate concern when putting out a
publication. I, for one, would like to see TECN both larger and more
frequent. We've certainly got the money in the treasury for it.
This is number two on my agenda for the new Board (There's no
point on bringing anything up before the election unless you'll be at the
meeting). Number one is this years election snafu.

> The only response I really got
> was this short paragraph that sort of addressed the issue, but it was not
> directed at me, instead it was a general statement from Gus in the
> "...From the President's Desk" column.
> "Membership rosters are available. Send $3.00 to Howard Sharkey
> to cover copying and mailing costs and he will send you one. Please use
> the list for correspondence and not soliciting. We always need new
> members. Sign up somebody soon."
> Personally I didn't like the tone of that paragraph. If you'd

The greatest threat I see facing TEC at this time is lack of
feedback to the membership. Again, since so many of the officers are not
online I feel a larger and more frequent TECN will solve help solve this
problem. I, for one, cannot afford to make long distance calls to get
information about the club. Even postage gets expensive. I just sent a
letter to each of the TEC Officers regarding the election. This one
letter cost me more then five bucks to send off. This could easily add
up VERY quickly. A club newsletter is supposed to disseminate
information about the club. Each individual member should not have to
write a letter to each of the officers. Besides, can you imagine how
swamped the officers would be if they each had to respond to dozens of
letters from each member? By creating a 'dialogue; in the TEC News all
would feel more included.

> have read my article you'd find that I clearly think the roster should be
> free to all members, and that I address the constant "hounding" from the

I agree, yet again. That's why I have promised to share my copy
of the membership with anyone who asks free of charge or at cost if any. My
request for said roster will be going out in tomorrow's mail.

> Perhaps we (as a club) could gain more members if we were online.

My thoughts on this have been made pretty clear. Willy reports
that nearly fifty people have joined based on his web-site alone (I could
be wrong on this number and Willy's gone for a few days, but needless to
say TEC has had a HUGE leap in membership this year and it owes a lot of
that to the 'net.

I have forwarded this message to both Corey and Rocky as I think
they need to see what people think. I encourage you to forward your
message to them both as well, Matt.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC roster
Date: 30 Jul 1997 10:31:00 -0400

Matt and the rest of the elongates newsgroup,

I consider myself a "cyberling" as well. At 22 years of age and working
as a professional in the computer industry, I embrace adding more
technology to TEC.
It is true that not all of the members use computers on a daily basis.
However, that
shouldn't stunt the growth of TEC. I wouldn't have become a member if
hadn't been for
Willy - along with several other people online.

If TEC isn't willing to publish the information on members, then it doesn't
seem
appropriate for us to help promote members. What would be my line? "You
should join TEC,
give them money, and hope that they return the favor with information on
expanding your
collection." I enjoy reading the TEC newsletter - however I've gained far
more information
from this mailing list.

I envision an online elongated penny museum where people can display their
collections
for the rest of the public to see. I believe this vision should be
supported by TEC -
since this helps others get acquainted with the hobby. However, from the
email I have seen
of the current TEC leaders, I'm not convinced the focus is on the members
of TEC.

As much as I like to be a part of TEC, I am debating on letting my
membership expire.
I'm not asking all members of TEC to become 100% dedicated to net traffic.
I agree some
of the best ideas and feelings come from good ol' pencil and paper.
However, TEC seems to be
going out of its way to NOT promote the net and its avenues available to
TEC members.

In closing, I feel TEC should release the addresses of the members who wish
to be published for free.
I joined TEC to understand and learn about the people around me which
collect elongated coins.
Incouraging cooperation and conversations between members should be the
primary focus of TEC
in order to keep members in the future - cyberlings or not.

Sincerely,
Jeff Dixon
TEC member
422 Mystic Ave #404
Somerville, MA 02145
USA

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC roster
Date: 30 Jul 1997 09:34:17 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote:

> If TEC isn't willing to publish the information on members, then it doesn't
> seem
> appropriate for us to help promote members. What would be my line? "You
> should join TEC,
> give them money, and hope that they return the favor with information on
> expanding your
> collection."

I don't really think this is fair. I first contacted Howard
about TEC Membership in the early summer of 1995. He sent a sample issue
of TEC News and several free coins along with the membership information.
I continued a brief correspondence with him as well as with Anita Zell
and a few other TEC members whose addresses I got from that sample
newsletter. This correspondence ended because *I* got distracted by
other things and let them falter. When I joined TEC this last November I
again received numerous coins and have begun coresponding with several of
the existing members. I love the net, and all that is available here
regarding ECs, but without TEC much of it would not exist. It is a prime
motivating factor for elongated collecting. I doubt there is a single
private roller that is not a TEC Member. TEC has a lot to offer, its
just going through growing pains at the moment.

> I enjoy reading the TEC newsletter - however I've gained far
> more information from this mailing list.

Obviously I'm glad to hear the list has been so useful to you.
It's my baby and my pride and joy. But is was never intended to replace
TECN and I sure hope it never does. We need MORE outlets of information,
not less.

> I envision an online elongated penny museum where people can display their
> collections
> for the rest of the public to see.

And this vision WILL become a reality. Many people are working on
the foundations for just such a museum.

> I believe this vision should be
> supported by TEC -
> since this helps others get acquainted with the hobby. However, from the
> email I have seen
> of the current TEC leaders, I'm not convinced the focus is on the members
> of TEC.

Have you mentioned this to any of the TEC officers, Jeff? I
think it's a great idea and would fit well on the TEC website. Friday
evening we should know when/if that is going to happen in th near
future. Once we've got the go ahead to start the site we'll need to
discuss what to put there. The Dixon Virtual Elongate Museum is high on
my list.

>
> As much as I like to be a part of TEC, I am debating on letting my
> membership expire.
> I'm not asking all members of TEC to become 100% dedicated to net traffic.
> I agree some
> of the best ideas and feelings come from good ol' pencil and paper.
> However, TEC seems to be
> going out of its way to NOT promote the net and its avenues available to
> TEC members.

Please don't do this Jeff. I don't know how long you've been a
member of TEC, but it IS changing. Slowly,for sure, but surely. We need
to work withing TEC to improve it, not abandon it when it needs us most.
The key is to let our feelings be known. I encourage you to forward your
thoughts to both Corey and Rocky. I am also planning on mailing a large
number of the recent messages regarding TEC to members of the 'new' board
after the elction. They can't do what we want until they know what we
want. And if they don't do it when we ask, we ask again. If they still
don't do it, we demand it.

>
> In closing, I feel TEC should release the addresses of the members who wish
> to be published for free.
> I joined TEC to understand and learn about the people around me which
> collect elongated coins.
> Incouraging cooperation and conversations between members should be the
> primary focus of TEC
> in order to keep members in the future - cyberlings or not.
>
I couldn't agree more.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
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Date: 30 Jul 1997 11:51:33 -0500

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I still find good ol' brass polish to work the best.
All the mystic voodoo of lemon and ketchup stuff gets my hands all gunky. :)

Aaaah, yes it does, but all those chemicals in the brass/copper polishes give me a migraine!
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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:25:20 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-30 00:57:27 EDT, you write:

> My local Kinko's management freaked HARD when they heard I was
> gonna place coins on their scanner. They were utterly convinved that
> there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. <sigh>
>
> Just thought I'd forewarn y'all.
>
> Aahz
>

Who cares about the glass??? Don't scratch the coins! :-)

-Bob Hoff
TEC#2033

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) IMHO
Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:25:26 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-30 08:02:22 EDT, you write:

> My thoughts on this have been made pretty clear. Willy reports
> that nearly fifty people have joined based on his web-site alone (I could
> be wrong on this number and Willy's gone for a few days, but needless to
> say TEC has had a HUGE leap in membership this year and it owes a lot of
> that to the 'net.
>

Some years back I too found out about them indirectly from cyberspace.

The future of collecting is dependent on introducing the hobby to new
members. Many new members can be found on the web. We owe it to the hobby
to cover all available meda. (They will still have to subscribe to the TEC
Newsletter to get the free EC anyway. :-)

-Bob Hoff
TEC#2033

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: (elongates) More notes on TEC and cyberspace
Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:54:06 -0400

Hi everybody,

After looking at my letter again - it seemed a little harsh. My intention
isn't to leave TEC until I'm convinced it's a loss cause.
I believe there are lots of great people in TEC - and I'm a bit frustrated
with the bad vibes I get from TEC leadership.

- Jeff

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411 Waverley Oaks Road
Waltham, MA 02154

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From: ENTROPYM@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Road Trip: SF to DL
Date: 30 Jul 1997 14:58:38 -0400 (EDT)

If you are on Highway 17, the Roaring Camp and Big Trees Narrow Gauge
Railroad in Felton has a coin.

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) More notes on TEC and cyberspace
Date: 30 Jul 1997 12:15:30 -0700

Jeff,

A lot of us seem to feel the same. We want to move TEC AND our hobby
forward. Some good things may be happening... Willy is the President
nominee. He's savvy about email, web pages etc. Let's see if he gets
elected and then assist him in moving into new areas.

I have made my views known to the list and I appreciate you all letting
me share my thoughts. I think we have a very good chance to effect some
change. Hey, if we can bring in lots of net savvy new collectors (we just
got another one last night!) we become a bigger voice in TEC and can move
things in a way that benefits all members.

Hang in there, keep smashin', and keep letting us know your thoughts.
Change doesn't happen easily, but it can start with "a bit" of
frustration and lead to some new growth.

bc

On 7/30/97 10:54 AM Jeff Dixon (jeffd@kurzweil.com ) wrote

>Hi everybody,
>
>After looking at my letter again - it seemed a little harsh. My intention
>isn't to leave TEC until I'm convinced it's a loss cause.
>I believe there are lots of great people in TEC - and I'm a bit frustrated
>with the bad vibes I get from TEC leadership.
>
>- Jeff

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From: tony dinto <stanton@eci.com>
Subject: (elongates) Star trek
Date: 30 Jul 1997 15:39:30 +0000

Hi,
This is my first email to all so please excuse the flubs.
Someone, wrote that they were looking for a Star Trek coin.
I am pretty sure i have one on a rolled nickel. There isn't any
script on it, but it looks like Mcoy, Spock, and Scotty standing in
a control room of some sort.
Contact me if this is any intrest to you.
Tony Dinto
stanton@eci.com

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC's future
Date: 30 Jul 1997 16:23:04 -0400 (EDT)

Collecting elongated pennies is a growing hobbie that not many people know
about. The collectable/comic book store I go to couldn't believe that
elongates had web pages dedicated to them, they had very little literature
about them didn't have any pennies in their vast coin/money department. Does
TEC sell to stores to sell on the shelf??? If TEC was at least bi-monthy more
would buy it! Bi-monthy would only be 2 more issues a year! That doesn't
seem so hard to acomplish! A TEC web page is a must! More young people
would get into it if they could just discover it on the web! An internet/web
baised colum in TEC would introduce the web to the internet-illeterate. In
searching for info about elongated pennies...the web and this list are only
info I have! (I did find that encylopeida but is was $130, way to
expensive!) I would love to get TEC, but I want to see a copy first..... and
I would like it to be bi-monthly! My $0.02!
Liz

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS
Date: 30 Jul 1997 20:36:37 -0700

ATTENTION TO ALL TEC MEMBERS:

If you did not recieve the latest issue of the TEC NEWS, Please let ME
know (massey@clark.net). I will be picking up extras at the ANA this
Friday, and will gladly send you one.

It pains me greatly to announce that TEC Secretary, Howard Sharkey, will
no longer be able to hold his office, as he is quite ill. Although, he
is not so bad off as to not be able to enjoy a kind word from any of you
who care to send him one.
--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Star trek
Date: 30 Jul 1997 20:15:15 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, tony dinto wrote:

> Hi,
> This is my first email to all so please excuse the flubs.

No flubs, Tony. You did just fine 8-)

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC's future
Date: 30 Jul 1997 20:26:03 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 Egd9020@aol.com wrote:

>
> Collecting elongated pennies is a growing hobbie that not many people know
> about. The collectable/comic book store I go to couldn't believe that
> elongates had web pages dedicated to them, they had very little literature
> about them didn't have any pennies in their vast coin/money department. Does

I'm amazed they had any literature about them! I've never seen
any elongate literature in a coin shop. What do they have?

> TEC sell to stores to sell on the shelf???

No, TEC News is not designed for public distribution. It's a
club newsletter designed for club members, not the general public.

> expensive!) I would love to get TEC, but I want to see a copy first..... and
> I would like it to be bi-monthly! My $0.02!

As of Friday morning we apparently will have a new TEC
Secretary. As soon as this person is announced, I'll post their address
and you can write and request a sample copy.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: tclh@hilconet.com
Subject: (elongates) Greetings from Texas
Date: 30 Jul 1997 22:38:45 -0500

Hello all,
My name is Trey and I live just west of San Antonio. Aahz invited me to
suscribe about 3 weeks ago, and I have been lurking since that time.

I became interested in elongates thru my children. The coins were
inexpensive gifts brought home from my travels. However, I really got
hooked in early June while at Disney World. The 25th anniversary
quarter elongates were just the ticket. I wish I had planned ahead and
packed a roll of silver quarters.

My oldest daughter decided to assemble her set a little late in our
trip. She has multiples of at least 8 of the coins, but is missing 4-5
coins needed to complete a set. If anyone is interested in trading to
complete sets, I will post a trade list. Also, I may be able to help
with machine locations for those going to D.W. in September. Some are a
little difficult to find.

Many thanks for the invitation to suscribe to the list, Aahz.

Trey

PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-?
Thanks,
TH

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS
Date: 30 Jul 1997 20:56:37 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote:

> It pains me greatly to announce that TEC Secretary, Howard Sharkey, will
> no longer be able to hold his office, as he is quite ill. Although, he
> is not so bad off as to not be able to enjoy a kind word from any of you
> who care to send him one.

Wow, they're dropping like flies. (Not meant to sound as crass
as it comes off). Every contact I have had with Howard has been
wonderful. He seems like a wonderful man and has certainly given his all
to TEC. I am very saddened by this announcement 8-(

So, it lloks like TEC is goin to have at least two new officers.
I wonder who they'll put up for Secretary. This election just gets more
and more interesting.

By theway, I have decided to run for TEC Director. There are
supposed to be three Director slots, but it appears that only two are
currently filled. I doubt that I have a chance of winning as I have
never personally met a single other TEC member and have corresponded with
only three or four members that will be at the meeting. But, I figured I
had to try. So, if you're going, I would appreciate your vote. I will
never be able to fill the shoes of the likes of Howard and Gus, but I
certainly hope to assist in pulling TEC thru this difficult time.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Greetings from Texas
Date: 30 Jul 1997 21:00:56 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 tclh@hilconet.com wrote:

> Hello all,
> My name is Trey and I live just west of San Antonio. Aahz invited me to
> suscribe about 3 weeks ago, and I have been lurking since that time.

Welcome to the list, Trey. The first message is the hardest. 8-)

> PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-?

Hmm, this is a new one on me. My emoticon useage is pretty much
limited to the smiley 8-), frown 8-(, and wink ;). I suppose this could
mean questioning. I've got a LONG list of smilies around here somewhere...

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: tclh@hilconet.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Greetings from Texas
Date: 30 Jul 1997 23:03:49 -0500

> Welcome to the list, Trey. The first message is the hardest. 8-)
>
> > PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-?
>
> Hmm, this is a new one on me. My emoticon useage is pretty much
> limited to the smiley 8-), frown 8-(, and wink ;). I suppose this could
> mean questioning. I've got a LONG list of smilies around here somewhere...
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
Thanks for the clarification on emotion usage. I think I understand
now.
Trey

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From: "tink!!!" <dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Greetings from Texas
Date: 30 Jul 1997 21:25:18 -0700

> >PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-?
>
> Hmm, this is a new one on me. My emoticon useage is pretty
> much limited to the smiley 8-), frown 8-(, and wink ;). I suppose
> this could mean questioning. I've got a LONG list of smilies around
> here somewhere...

and for the hardcore enthusiast, here is the addy for the canonical
smiley list;>

http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/smileys.html

}8{{:) <-anyone remember a.l.f.?
}8<:} <-from a.f.d

-nikki
--
"There's still a part of me that's
16 and I'm going to nuture it"-Keith Richards
http://www.concentric.net/~dvlgrl66/
dc.d f-- - s+ h+ cbryteG^wP a $ (m) d++ fr+ L<1m bF e g i!

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Emoticons
Date: 30 Jul 1997 21:42:19 -0700

On 7/30/97 9:25 PM tink!!! (dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net ) wrote

>> >PS I am a newbie. What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-?
>>
>> Hmm, this is a new one on me. My emoticon useage is pretty
>> much limited to the smiley 8-), frown 8-(, and wink ;). I suppose
>> this could mean questioning. I've got a LONG list of smilies around
>> here somewhere...
>
>and for the hardcore enthusiast, here is the addy for the canonical
>smiley list;>
>
>http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/smileys.html
>
>}8{{:) <-anyone remember a.l.f.?
>}8<:} <-from a.f.d
>
>-nikki

Greetings All,

Here's a partial list... You may see some of these used on this mailing
list... 8-)
Source: <http://wwws.enterprise.net/fortknox/emoticon/smiley.html#emot000>

Full Abbreviated
Version Version
:-) Happy :)
(-: Left Handed/Australian (:
:-( Sad :(
;-) Winky ;)
#-) Oh, what a night! #)
:-O Yelling/Shocked :O
:-| Frowning :|

For those wanting a more 'aesthetically pleasing' emoticon you can use
the profile version... some examples are below:

:^) :^] ;^)

Perhaps, a semi-colon too far

So, when words absolutely fail you...

~~:-[ Net Flame
:-$ Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is
:-P Sticking Out Tongue
:-@ Screaming/Swearing/Very Angry/About To Be Sick
:*) Drunk/Clown
>;-> Wicked Grin
:-# Been Smacked In The Mouth/Wears A Brace/Kiss
R-) Broken Glasses
(:-) Bald
:-))) Is Very Fat
:-{} Wears Lipstick
=:-) A Dickhead
@:-) Wears A Turban
>:-> Leering
$-) Yuppie/Just Won A Large Sum Of Money
:,( Crying
:=) Two Noses
8:] Gorilla
8-) Wears Glasses
B:-) Wears Sun Glasses On Head
:-T Keeping A Straight Face/Tight Lipped
:-y Said With A Smile
:-| Disgusted/Grim/No Expression
:~-( Crying/Shed A Tear
:'-( Crying
:~(~~ Crying
:-Q A Smoker
:-! A Smoker
%-\ Has A Hangover
|-o Bored
:-X A Kiss/Lips Are Sealed
(:-D Has A Big Mouth
(:+) Has A Big Nose
:-{) Has A Moustache
:-* Just Ate Something Sour/Bitter Taste/Kiss
[:-) Is Wearing A Walkman

Definitely, off the wall!

Some people can't have anything else to do! ...those which are, frankly,
taking the p***!

(:-) Bicycle Helmets
:-)' Tends To Drool
=:-) Punk
+-:-) The Pope
O:-) An Angel
*<:-)> Santa
o-<:-{{{ Santa
*<|:-) Santa/A Clown
5:-) Elvis Presley
:-% Banker
:-: Mutant Smiley
(-:|:-) Siamese Twins
7:-) Fred Flinstone
:/7) Cyrano de Bergerac
C):-O
C):-O
C):-O
C):-O A Barbershop Quartet
3:-o A Cow
8:-) A Pig/A Little Girl
:\/ A Woodpecker
]:-> The Devil
,-) A One Eyed Winky
|-( Lost Contact Lenses
#:-) Matted Hair/Fur Hat/Crewcut/Messy Hair
&:-) Curly Hair
C=:-) A Chef
><:>== A Turkey
@}->-- A Rose
=|:-)= Uncle Sam/Abe Loncoln
7:) Ronald Reagan
+<:-| Monk/Nun
:_) A Boxer/Had a Fight/Nose Is Sliding Of Face
>>:-) Devil/Horrible User
>>>>(:-) A Hat Salesman
{ A Psycho
(:I An Egghead
b:-) A Baseball Fan/Has A Cap On
(-) Needs A Haircut
;-(*) Feels Sick
*** **:-) Marge Simpson
[:] A Robot
:-[ A Vampire/Count Dracula/Pouting/Sarcastic
:-F A Bucktoothed Vampire/Has Major Dental Problems
:=) Orangutan/Has Two Noses
:-? Smokes A Pipe
:-8( Condescending
8-# Death/Dead
>>:-<< Mad
;^) Smirking
>>:-1 Klingon
:-- ---} Liar/Pinnochio
!-( Black Eye
) Cheshire Cat
(:-D Blabber Mouth
A Schizo *#*!^*&:-) phrenic
:-'| Has A Cold/Flu
:$) Donald Trump
:-.) Marilyn Monroe/Madonna
:-) 8 Dolly Parton
:-|:-| Deja'vu
><*:oDX A Clown
C|:-= Charlie Chaplin
:.) Cindy Crawford
=) Adolf Hitler
~:o A Baby
===:-D Don King
8(:-) Mickey Mouse/Walt Disney
(|-| F Robocop
3:*> Rudolph the Reindeer
P-) A Pirate
%-~ Picasso
':-) Has One Eyebrow

TLA's

Anything to avoid RSI (repetitive strain injury)

<g> Grin
ROFL Rolling on the floor, laughing
LOL Laughing out loud
IMHO In my humble opinion
IOHO In our humble opinion
IMO In my opinion
BTW By the way
RTFM Read the f*** *** manual

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) Location Keeper Update...
Date: 30 Jul 1997 23:36:02 -0700

Greetings All,

For those who have joined the list in the last week or so, there are web
sites where you can find locations of elongated (smashed, squished,
rolled, smushed...) coins from around the world. Chris Aahz 'coined' (pun
intended) the name "location keepers' for those of us building up a
location resource. You can find my site called Smashed Coin Locator, and
use it to find Willy's, Kathy's and others.

Here's an update of what's new today:

Smashed Coin Locator Page Updated (This is the main page...)
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html

Engravers/Rollers/Designers Page Updated (Thanks to Willy Massey & Chris
Aahz for help on this!)
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/engravers.html

Arizona Page Updated
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/Arizona.html

New World Smashed Coin Locator Page started (more to come soon)
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/WorldSmashedCoins.
html

New England/UK Page
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/england.html

I have a serious (yeah!) backlog of locations and will get them on the
web site as soon as possible.

THANKS to all for emailing the locations. Please keep them coming!

Bert

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From: ENTROPYM@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 02:34:54 -0400 (EDT)

I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really.
I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page.
If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd
like to know. I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine.
If I'm lucky, I'm going to swing by the Winchester Mystery House and Big
Trees...Railroad and pick up a few more.
I'm going to be picking up some extras for trading, so if anyone wants one
and wants to trade, please let me know.

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade?
Date: 30 Jul 1997 23:46:06 -0700

Greetings,

On 7/30/97 11:34 PM ENTROPYM@aol.com (ENTROPYM@aol.com ) wrote

>I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really.
>I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page.
>If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd
>like to know.

A friend had dinner on the pier recently and the restaurant folks told
him where to find the machine. It was on or near the pier...

>I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine.
>If I'm lucky, I'm going to swing by the Winchester Mystery House and Big
>Trees...Railroad and pick up a few more.
>I'm going to be picking up some extras for trading, so if anyone wants one
>and wants to trade, please let me know.

I'd love a pre-1982 penny from the Railroad (along with a description of
the machine, Eurolink vs somebody else's, location, etc). Thanks!

Bert

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS
Date: 31 Jul 1997 06:51:36 -0500

William C. Massey wrote:
>
> ATTENTION TO ALL TEC MEMBERS:
>
> If you did not recieve the latest issue of the TEC NEWS, Please let ME
> know (massey@clark.net). I will be picking up extras at the ANA this
> Friday, and will gladly send you one.

My daughter has not received the latest issue. Could you please send
her one. Thanks.

Janelle for Kristina Henry
13231 179 1/2 Ave
Elk River, MN 55330

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC roster
Date: 31 Jul 1997 08:36:17 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-30 22:36:43 EDT, you write:

<<
I consider myself a "cyberling" as well. At 22 years of age and working
as a professional in the computer industry, I embrace adding more
technology to TEC. >>

I must be the youngest Cyberling on this list.....I'm turning 20 on Aug 8! Is
there anyone younger??
Liz

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC's future
Date: 31 Jul 1997 08:41:30 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-31 03:29:31 EDT, you write:

<< I'm amazed they had any literature about them! I've never seen
any elongate literature in a coin shop. What do they have?
>>

They just had that $130 encyclopedia of elongates that they ordered for
me....but I am not going to buy it.....that is one week's pay for me!
Liz
PS Ya, I know I have a crummy part-time job....

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 09:36:48 -0400

There are two machines in Santa Cruz. The first one is the boardwalk
arcade. If you haven't been there before, it's located to the left
of the pier. The second is located on the pier - about halfway up in the
NorthWest corner of a gift shop. The gift shop penny, in my humble
opinion, is much better than the arcade penny. I'm looking for pre-1982
versions of both, and would like to trade/buy them from you.

- Jeff
At 02:34 AM 7/31/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really.
>I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page.
>If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd
>like to know. I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine.
>If I'm lucky, I'm going to swing by the Winchester Mystery House and Big
>Trees...Railroad and pick up a few more.
>I'm going to be picking up some extras for trading, so if anyone wants one
>and wants to trade, please let me know.
>
>
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Software Engineer
Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com
411 Waverley Oaks Road
Waltham, MA 02154

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 10:08:57 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-31 10:02:47 EDT, you write:

<<
I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really.
I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page.
If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd
like to know. I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine.
If I'm lucky, I'm going to swing by the Winchester Mystery House and Big
Trees...Railroad and pick up a few more.
I'm going to be picking up some extras for trading, so if anyone wants one
and wants to trade, please let me know.


>>
I don't think the popeye machine is there any more,but I found it in an
archade.... I would like a winchester mystery house penny though.... I was
there a long time ago!
liz

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC's future
Date: 31 Jul 1997 11:04:07 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-30 20:14:17 EDT, you write:

> I would love to get TEC, but I want to see a copy first..... and
> I would like it to be bi-monthly! My $0.02!
> Liz

I'd like to see it more often, even if sponsored by penney press companies
pushing the locations of their machines just to get us to buy from them. :-)

But, at the subscription price it's a bargan!

-Bob Hoff
TEC # 2033

P.S. Just signed up my daughter too!

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 09:14:14 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 ENTROPYM@aol.com wrote:

> I'm off to Santa Cruz this weekend, well Friday really.
> I understand that there is one penny there, as shown on the Penny Page.
> If anyone knows where this machine is or if there are any more machines, I'd

The machine is in the main arcade at the Boardwalk.

> like to know. I'll keep an eye out for the mysterious Popeye machine.

The Popeye machine has not been there for many years. Popeye
used to be the mascot for the Boardwalk. When he left as their mascot
his penny left as well.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS
Date: 31 Jul 1997 12:35:05 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-31 00:00:05 EDT, you write:

> By theway, I have decided to run for TEC Director. There are
> supposed to be three Director slots, but it appears that only two are
> currently filled. I doubt that I have a chance of winning as I have
> never personally met a single other TEC member and have corresponded with
> only three or four members that will be at the meeting. But, I figured I
> had to try. So, if you're going, I would appreciate your vote. I will
> never be able to fill the shoes of the likes of Howard and Gus, but I
> certainly hope to assist in pulling TEC thru this difficult time.
>

How do we get a ballot?

-Bob Hoff
TEC # 2033

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS
Date: 31 Jul 1997 09:38:35 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 97-07-31 00:00:05 EDT, you write:
>
> > By theway, I have decided to run for TEC Director. There are
>
> How do we get a ballot?

That's one of the reasons I'm running. You don't get to vote
unless you attend the meeting. This is a direct violation of the
Constitution and By-Laws but it's what is happening this year. This
election screw-up is really what started the messages about the TEC
administration. Several of us has expressed our displeasure, but there
simply was not time before the election to do anything about it.

Peace,

Aahz

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List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS
Date: 31 Jul 1997 14:29:36 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-31 12:41:20 EDT, you write:

> > How do we get a ballot?
>
>
> That's one of the reasons I'm running. You don't get to vote
> unless you attend the meeting. This is a direct violation of the
> Constitution and By-Laws but it's what is happening this year. This
> election screw-up is really what started the messages about the TEC
> administration. Several of us has expressed our displeasure, but there
> simply was not time before the election to do anything about it.
>
What are the rules about absent ballots or proxies?

-Bob Hoff
TEC #2033

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 11:39:21 -0700

On 7/31/97 7:08 AM Liz Dale (Egd9020@aol.com ) wrote

>I don't think the popeye machine is there any more,but I found it in an
>archade.... I would like a winchester mystery house penny though.... I was
>there a long time ago!
>liz

Liz,

Is the Popeye in an arcade now? Where?

There are 3 pennis from Winchester if I remember correctly. All older
Eurolink machines.

Bert

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From: Egd9020@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Santa Cruz this weekend, wanna trade?
Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:13:20 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-31 17:46:31 EDT, you write:

<<

Is the Popeye in an arcade now? Where? >>

I was there about 14 years ago when I was 6 or 7. I don't remember which
archade it was in. I was only at the santa cruze boardwalk once while on
vacation in CA. Sorry I don't have more info!
Liz

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: (elongates) Maine...
Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:24:46 -0400

Anybody out there know of any elongate machines in Maine or maybe New
Brunswick, Canada? I'm taking a 'little' trip next week from Mass. to
Ft. Kent Maine on the N.B. Canada border. Nver seen a machine in Maine,
but ya never know...

Thanks all.

Ben Lavine mcsquare@erols.com

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From: CWFIII@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Disney Coins
Date: 31 Jul 1997 20:19:34 -0400 (EDT)

I'm a new guy to the list and am surprised to find the number of individuals
contributing to this board, what a cooperative group. I was just at DL a
couple of weeks ago for the NFFC convention and picked up a set three
quarters and three pennies all of which are dated 1995 and disneyana on the
tops, any ideas as to what exactly I have got here? Also, I remeber reading
previously that someone was working on a catalog of the Disney (land and
world) coins to date, is something like that available yet? Any info would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Carl

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney Coins
Date: 31 Jul 1997 18:35:33 -0700

Carl,

Welcome to the list! You will find this a very active group!

Where did you find the Disneyana coins (what is NFFC)?

Thanks

Bert

On 7/31/97 5:19 PM CWFIII@aol.com (CWFIII@aol.com ) wrote

>I'm a new guy to the list and am surprised to find the number of individuals
>contributing to this board, what a cooperative group. I was just at DL a
>couple of weeks ago for the NFFC convention and picked up a set three
>quarters and three pennies all of which are dated 1995 and disneyana on the
>tops, any ideas as to what exactly I have got here? Also, I remeber reading
>previously that someone was working on a catalog of the Disney (land and
>world) coins to date, is something like that available yet? Any info would be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks

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From: CWFIII@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: (elongates) Disney Coins
Date: 31 Jul 1997 21:53:55 -0400 (EDT)

The NFFC is the national fantasy fan club (can't use the name for legal
reasons you know) a Disneyana organization that has annual conventions and
sales at the Hyatt Regency in Anaheim, the coins are starting to hit with
some of the vendors and a few had some sets, the problem was determining the
dates for these sets.

This Disneyana set was one of them, the guy I bought it from seemed to think
that it was a castmember only deal, but as I said before, I don't know.

Carl

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) Disneyana Question
Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:03:47 -0700

Greetings All,

If our coins are starting to show up at Disneyana conventions... then I
better get my pre-82's and head out the door!

Does anyone know of any other conventions this year?

Thanks!

Bert

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From: ... <...>
Subject: RE: (elongates) Greetings from Texas
Date: 31 Jul 1997 21:00:42 -0500

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Hello all,
My name is Trey and I live just west of San Antonio. Aahz invited me to
suscribe about 3 weeks ago, and I have been lurking since that time.

Howdy Trey!
Great to have another Texan in the group.

I became interested in elongates thru my children. The coins were
inexpensive gifts brought home from my travels. =20

I think it's great the way children get so excited about these coins. My =
nephew is 6 and he can't wait to see what his Aunt Kathy brings him. =
Rocky Rockholt has a set of dinosaurs that can be purchased and kids =
really get a kick out of them.

However, I really got hooked in early June while at Disney World. The =
25th anniversary
quarter elongates were just the ticket. I wish I had planned ahead and
packed a roll of silver quarters.

Maybe some one here can help you find the other's you need to complete =
the set!

My oldest daughter decided to assemble her set a little late in our
trip. She has multiples of at least 8 of the coins, but is missing 4-5
coins needed to complete a set. If anyone is interested in trading to
complete sets, I will post a trade list. Also, I may be able to help
with machine locations for those going to D.W. in September. Some are a
little difficult to find.

I'd be interested. My sister is going in Sept and I won't let her come =
back till she spent every quarter and penny I give her!

What does it mean when a sentence ends with 8-?

Well, just turn your head to the left and SMILE!
:-) 8-)
Do you see it?

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney Coins
Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:42:00 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 CWFIII@aol.com wrote:

> I'm a new guy to the list and am surprised to find the number of individuals
> contributing to this board, what a cooperative group.

Welcome! And thanx for the compliment 8-)

> I was just at DL a
> couple of weeks ago for the NFFC convention and picked up a set three
> quarters and three pennies all of which are dated 1995 and disneyana on the
> tops, any ideas as to what exactly I have got here?

You've got some wonderful momentos that some people would like to
get their hands on. Especially me 8-)

> Also, I remeber reading
> previously that someone was working on a catalog of the Disney (land and
> world) coins to date, is something like that available yet? Any info would be
> greatly appreciated.

That's me! I'm working on cataloging all the Disney coins. As
far as I know this has never been done. At the moment it is moving
slowly. I have most of the info on 'permanent' machines at DL, little
info on WDW, and know of only a few limited edition coins.

However, I WILL get this project completed, I just don't know when.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ATTENTION TEC MEMBERS
Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:48:50 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> What are the rules about absent ballots or proxies?

Well the rules (in the form of the TEC Constitution and By-Laws)
detail a very specific manner for elections which basic boils down to
eavery member is supposed to receive a ballot and a numbered envelope.
Everyone completes their ballot and mails it in. The ballots are counted
and the results announced at the meeting. This year, for reasons that
have yet been reasonably explained to me, no ballots went out and there
will be a live vote at the meeting. That's all I know.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) New State Added (Nebraska)
Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:58:59 -0700

Evening!

I just got a report from an online friend (Kathy in Benson AZ). She has a
friend that was in Kearney Nebraska and found a machine at Cabela's. A
quick search found this info:

>You'll find a huge wildlife and fish display among the aisles of the
>world's foremost outdoor outfitter. Roam the store with deer, elk, moose,
>bobcats, cougars, record stringers of fish and more. East Highway 30.
>(308)237-7999

The new Nebraska page is at:
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/nebraska.html

8->

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) SCBB Popeye Penny
Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:51:32 -0700 (PDT)

I thought I'd already posted this info, but apparently not:

Accoding to the buyer at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk the Popeye penny
was replaced with the current logo penny about five years ago when SCBB
lost the contract with Popeye (or his agent 8-). He used to be their
mascot, thus was on their penny. When he was no longer the mascot he was
removed from the penny.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: Re: (elongates) Disney Coins
Date: 31 Jul 1997 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 CWFIII@aol.com wrote:

> sales at the Hyatt Regency in Anaheim, the coins are starting to hit with
> some of the vendors and a few had some sets, the problem was determining the
> dates for these sets.
>
> This Disneyana set was one of them, the guy I bought it from seemed to think
> that it was a castmember only deal, but as I said before, I don't know.

I'm sorry, I misunderstand this question in your previous post.
What design/words are on the coins? You said they were a 1995 set. Is
this based on the date of the coin or is the date in the design?

Peace,

Aahz
(Who's not always as flippant as he was in his prior post)

~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collectors(TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 SECA Co-Founder
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
Subscription Page- http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 30 Jul 1997 10:45:33 -0700

On 7/30/97 10:25 AM R0BERTH0FF@aol.com (R0BERTH0FF@aol.com ) wrote

>Who cares about the glass??? Don't scratch the coins! :-)
>
>-Bob Hoff
>TEC#2033

Priceless comment Bob!

Bert

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Photographing Pennies
Date: 30 Jul 1997 13:52:08 -0400

*grin*
At 01:25 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 97-07-30 00:57:27 EDT, you write:
>
>> My local Kinko's management freaked HARD when they heard I was
>> gonna place coins on their scanner. They were utterly convinved that
>> there was no way to do this without scratching the glass. <sigh>
>>
>> Just thought I'd forewarn y'all.
>>
>> Aahz
>>
>
>Who cares about the glass??? Don't scratch the coins! :-)
>
>-Bob Hoff
>TEC#2033
>
>
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