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From: ENTROPYM@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Looking for that 13th WDW quarter?
Date: 01 Oct 1997 00:12:11 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 9/30/97 12:54:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, you write:

> I dunno if they extended it or not, but disney.com says the
> celebration does end 1/31/98. Maybe we all just assumed it would end at
> the end of the year...<shrug>
>
> Speaking of weird date things....
>
> I assumed that 1997 was the actual 25th Anniv. If so, why are
> the quarters dated 1996?
> Peace,
> Aahz

It's a Disney thing. Mickey's 60th birthday celebration lasted for three
years. How long did "40 years of Adventure" last?
Those Mouseketeers can really throw a party!

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) SURPRISE !!!!!! I have lots of these Hoover Dam commerative elongates
Date: 01 Oct 1997 02:42:49 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 AlinCal2@aol.com wrote:

> I think this elongate should be worth a multiple elongate trade-- --- --
> I SOLD one of these elongates on E-Bay for FOUR DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!

E-Bay is not a good place to judge the value of
elongates. I won't go into detail here as it's all been said before.
Simply put, most e-bay elongate prices are too high. Besides, you said
yourself you have 'lots' of these available.

I'm not trying to discourage people from making a trade
with you just trying to help increase everyone's knowledge.

"Every elongate has the same value: what the buyer is willing to
pay and the seller is willing to take."

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Slave to Lady Nikki <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) Looking for that 13th WDW quarter? (fwd)
Date: 01 Oct 1997 13:05:16 -0600 (MDT)

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The WDW celebration was extended because, well, because they are making
lots of money. I think the celebration is running on something like
more than two years now.

The 26th anniv. celebration was to start this month but I heard the
propertywide celebration will now be in Feb. (after the extension).

I have a feeling the machines will stay for the extension since they are
probably making lots of money on them too.

David

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) New elongates page
Date: 01 Oct 1997 16:06:58 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings and Salutations!

There's another new web page offering elongates for sale:

http://members.aol.com/~ecoins/index.html

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Admin stuff
Date: 02 Oct 1997 00:17:18 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings and Salutations!

Xmission (the list ISP) has been having MAJOR problems today. It
keeps crashing for short periods of time. The list has also been very
slow today. If this is coinicidence, then all is fine. However, if you
sent a message to the list today and never received that message back
from the list then it has been lost in the ether and needs to be resent.

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: "Tomita, David" <DTomita@MEDNET.ucla.edu>
Subject: RE: (elongates) Admin stuff
Date: 02 Oct 1997 10:14:39 -0700

Location information for Tokyo Disneyland 1997 EC.

Inside the Penny Arcade by exit door.
Cost to press: 100 yen
Machine supplies the coin to be pressed (copper).

And there might be more than one (the person I know didn't look
everywhere).

David Tomita
Hoping to secure some TDL EC's

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) DLT - EC
Date: 02 Oct 1997 13:35:31 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-02 13:14:35 EDT, you write:

> Location information for Tokyo Disneyland 1997 EC.
>
> Inside the Penny Arcade by exit door.
> Cost to press: 100 yen
> Machine supplies the coin to be pressed (copper).
>
> And there might be more than one (the person I know didn't look
> everywhere).
>
> David Tomita
> Hoping to secure some TDL EC's
>

David;

As soon as you have a scan, you gotta put it up on your web page for us to
see!

-Bob Hoff

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) TRADE -- --TRADE --DISNEYLAND HOTEL AREA ELONGATES
Date: 03 Oct 1997 00:51:54 -0400 (EDT)

DISNEYLAND HOTEL AND ADJACENT HOTEL DISNEY ELONGATES-- --- -

7 ELONGATES -- --DOES THIS SOUND INTERESTING TO YOU????

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRADE FOR THESE NICE ELONGATES?????

MAYBE WE CAN WORK OUT SOME TYPE OF TRADE!!!!!

LET'S TALK!!!!! Thank you E. Smith

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) TRADE -- --TRADE --DISNEYLAND HOTEL AREA ELONGATES
Date: 03 Oct 1997 11:03:49 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-03 00:53:55 EDT, you write:

> DISNEYLAND HOTEL AND ADJACENT HOTEL DISNEY ELONGATES-- --- -
>
> 7 ELONGATES -- --DOES THIS SOUND INTERESTING TO YOU????
>
> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRADE FOR THESE NICE ELONGATES?????
>
> MAYBE WE CAN WORK OUT SOME TYPE OF TRADE!!!!!
>
> LET'S TALK!!!!! Thank you E. Smith
>

Please list the coins, there are a several.

-Bob Hoff

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Re: Knotts Berry Farm-- --(tourist attraction in southern calif.)
Date: 03 Oct 1997 22:32:34 -0400 (EDT)

Keep those Knotts elongates -- -they may become rare--according to a recent
news paper article -- -Knotts might be up for sale -- -Who knows what will
happen--could this be fact or fiction -- -attention -- ---all elongate
collectors should watch this development!!!!!!

keeping you informed E. Smith

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From: Matthew Birchard <psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: (elongates) Yippy! Merit Award!
Date: 03 Oct 1997 22:16:25 -0700 (PDT)

Woo Hoo!!!!
Hey all, guess what came in the mail for me this afternoon?! TEC
awarded me, yes _*ME*_ with a MERIT AWARD coin! I got a letter signed by
Ray Dillard which reads as follows:

" Sept 26, 1997
Dear TEC Member
Matt Birchard

Congradulations! The enclosed Merit Award Coin is presented to you in
recognition of your servife and/or outstanding contributions towards the
promotion of the Hobby of collecting Elongated Coins.

This annual award is made to only a very limited few after review and
approval of the TEC Board of Directors.

Please accept it with our appreciation.

Sincerely,
<signature>
Ray Dillard, V.P.

<This part handwritten in red ink>
P.S. Looking forward to
meeting you at the
ANA Convention in Portland next year.
<signature> "

Impressive huh? And now for the coin description. It is a 1964 silver
quarter. Cool merely for that respect. Horizontal design with "The
Elongated Collectors" at the top. "MERIT AWARD" at the bottom. TEC owl
with TEC in the center. At left "19", at right "97". Standard dot
border with Ray's engraver mark by the start slot. Oh, did I say it is a
silver quarter? The design is only 1 1/2" long, and as such the coin
is not very flattened. Perhaps as thin as a (pre rolled) dime. The coin
is certainly not as large as the few disney quarters I have. The reverse
very clearly retains the face of the quarter, with the date and such.
The design is still slightly raised.
So, what extrodinary thing did I do to deserve this award? I'm
not sure. Truthfully. Perhaps the Board of Directors felt that I was as
good as the next guy, or they recognized my name from the several
articlaes I've authored, or because of the last article I wrote
concerning a membership roster that included such wonderful <g>
recommendations and comments on our club as a whole. Or maybe someone
thought they'd award this coin to me because I _think_ (and I stress
think) that the club may have stiffed me for a few Newsletter Award
coins, or maybe it was just the luck of the draw. At any rate, I feel
deserving and I'm happy to except the award. What a surprise to find in
the mail. Now to write a nice note to Ray.

Matt Birchard
TEC #1848
Portland, Oregon
USA

e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Knotts Berry Farm-- --(tourist attraction in southern calif.)
Date: 04 Oct 1997 08:33:58 -0700

Knott's is looking for 'major investors' with plans for a major
improvement/enlargement of the park, according to the news last week. I
don't think we have to worry about them closing the park. (If you have
any doubts, just drive past on a Fri. or Sat. evening between now and
Halloween!!!)

Nancy

AlinCal2@aol.com wrote:
>
> Keep those Knotts elongates -- -they may become rare--according to a recent
> news paper article -- -Knotts might be up for sale -- -Who knows what will
> happen--could this be fact or fiction -- -attention -- ---all elongate
> collectors should watch this development!!!!!!
>
> keeping you informed E. Smith

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Knotts Berry Farm-- --(tourist attraction in southern ca...
Date: 04 Oct 1997 11:50:08 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-03 23:17:30 EDT, you write:

> Keep those Knotts elongates -- -they may become rare--according to a
recent
> news paper article -- -Knotts might be up for sale -- -Who knows what will
> happen--could this be fact or fiction -- -attention -- ---all elongate
> collectors should watch this development!!!!!!
>
> keeping you informed E. Smith
>

I've heard that they are looking for a partner to expand. Hope they don't
plan to
change their name. Disneyland Western? :-)

-Bob Hoff

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Yippy! Merit Award!
Date: 04 Oct 1997 11:50:13 -0400 (EDT)

Matt;

*Congrads*!!!!

-Bob Hoff

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) locations
Date: 05 Oct 1997 11:51:24 -0500

In trying to start putting together my daughter's Christmas present of a
billion (seems like) pennies, I can across some which the location
(state) where they are from has slipped my mind. Could any of you help
locate the states for these:

Stone Zoo
Roger Williams Park Zoo
Capron Park Zoo
Geauga Lake Amusement Park

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) Maryland Science Center
Date: 05 Oct 1997 11:52:44 -0500

Could someone get me a penny from the center that shows the earth with
the moon, space shuttle, and flying saucer on it on a pre82 penny?
Thanks.

Janelle

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From: MFrisch328@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) locations
Date: 05 Oct 1997 15:27:00 -0400 (EDT)

Stone Zoo is at 149 Pond Street in Stoneham, MA.

Good Luck!

Davelle

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Las Vegas casino elongate trade??
Date: 05 Oct 1997 18:35:15 -0400 (EDT)

I have an EXCALIBER and a CIRCUS-CIRCUS Las Vegas casino elongate penny.
Will trade one of these for some other Las Vegas casino elongated penny on a
pre 82 copper penny--my elongated pennies are pre82 copper.

Thank you E. Smith

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Boulder City--Hoover Dam (50 year commerative elongate) TRADE???
Date: 05 Oct 1997 18:44:42 -0400 (EDT)

Will trade for a commerative pre 82 copper elongate that would be a new
addition to my collection. Let me know what you have to trade --maybe your
elongate is one that I don't have in my collection and we can make a trade.

Thank you E. Smith

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From: BLMC <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) locations
Date: 05 Oct 1997 19:58:58 -0400

James Henry wrote:
>
> In trying to start putting together my daughter's Christmas present of a
> billion (seems like) pennies, I can across some which the location
> (state) where they are from has slipped my mind. Could any of you help
> locate the states for these:
>
> Stone Zoo
> Roger Williams Park Zoo
> Capron Park Zoo
> Geauga Lake Amusement Park

Pretty sure the Roger Williams Zoo is in Rhode Island and the Capron Zoo
is in Mass. (Attleboro I think.)

Ben

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From: MarxenSEM@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) locations
Date: 06 Oct 1997 09:30:47 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-05 12:53:58 EDT, you write:

> Stone Zoo -- Stoneham, MA
> Roger Williams Park Zoo -- Providence, RI
> Capron Park Zoo -- Attleboro, MA
> Geauga Lake Amusement Park -- Aurora, OH
>

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From: "Verne R. Walrafen" <Walrafen@Earthling.Net>
Subject: (elongates) Barnes and Noble
Date: 06 Oct 1997 09:13:34 -0500

I saw Pete provide the Barnes and Noble website address:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com
and thought those without a Browser (there are some people who
still have only EMail believe it or not) might like to see the
text of what Barnes and Noble is offering.

If not, you know where the Delete button is.... :-)

Walter Breen's Complete Encyclopedia of U.S. and Colonial Coins
Walter Breen / Hardcover / Pub. Price: $100.00 B&N Price: $70.00 --
You Save $30.00 (30%) (Available in 1 - 2 Weeks)

Proof Coins Struck at the U. S. Mints: Updated W. Breen / Paperback
/ B&N Price: $10.00 (Available in 4 - 6 Weeks / Special Order)

Walter Breen's Encyclopedia of United States & Colonial Proof Coins,
1722-1977 Walter Breen / Paperback / B&N Price: $29.95 (Available
in 4 - 6 Weeks / Special Order)

Verne R. Walrafen, 12000 Sunset Ridge, Ozawkie, KS 66070 (785)945-3800
mailto:Walrafen@Earthling.Net http://www.GrasshopperNet.com/walrafen

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From: Alan Kita <alkita@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Knotts Berry Farm-- --(tourist attraction in southern calif.)
Date: 06 Oct 1997 10:13:06 -0800

This is what i have heard about Knott's...

Knotts is one of the largest amusement parks in the world...and hovers
around 3rd or 4th in the U.S., after the two Disney parks, and depending
on how much of Universal Studios you count, I think. And Knott's is
entirely family owned.

Family owned enterprises have gone away like many of KNott's former
attractions in Ghost Town...even the Dodgers, the last family owned
major league baseball team will eventually be sold to Rupert
Murdoch...but according to local Southern California news reports, the
Knott families are looking for investors and are seeking to raise
capital to build additions to the park.

I would not be surprised if some old-time Orange County cowboy lend a
hand or that Snoopy and the gang might help out.

I was there at KNott's on a Monday a week after labor day taking
out-of-state guests there and it was great because it was so empty,
there was no wait. ONly a collected a few elongates, though...

Alan Kita
Torrance California USA

AlinCal2@aol.com wrote:
>
> Keep those Knotts elongates -- -they may become rare--according to a recent
> news paper article -- -Knotts might be up for sale -- -Who knows what will
> happen--could this be fact or fiction -- -attention -- ---all elongate
> collectors should watch this development!!!!!!
>
> keeping you informed E. Smith

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From: Alan Kita <alkita@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Knotts Berry Farm-- --(tourist attraction in southern calif.)
Date: 06 Oct 1997 10:17:31 -0800

This is what i have heard about Knott's...

Knotts is one of the largest amusement parks in the world...and hovers
around 3rd or 4th in the U.S., after the two Disney parks, and depending
on how much of Universal Studios you count, I think. And Knott's is
entirely family owned.

Family owned enterprises have gone away like many of KNott's former
attractions in Ghost Town...even the Dodgers, the last family owned
major league baseball team will eventually be sold to Rupert
Murdoch...but according to local Southern California news reports, the
Knott families are looking for investors and are seeking to raise
capital to build additions to the park.

I would not be surprised if some old-time Orange County cowboy lend a
hand or that Snoopy and the gang might help out.

I was there at KNott's on a Monday a week after labor day taking
out-of-state guests there and it was great because it was so empty,
there was no wait. ONly a collected a few elongates, though...

But has anyone gone to the original Calico Ghost Town out in the Mojave
lately? Are there elongates there?

aside: Calico Ghost Town in San Bernardino County was where the father
of Walter Knott (the patriarch of KNott's) first mined for silver...and
the structures of Calico were copied in Buena Park, except for the Hotel
- that was moved from Prescott, AZ. Knott's must have had a hand in
developing Calico Ghost Town (they donated it to the county) because I
remember many attractions are similar - mine train ride, the house where
everything is slanted, bottle house, etc.

Alan Kita
Torrance California USA

AlinCal2@aol.com wrote:
>
> Keep those Knotts elongates -- -they may become rare--according to a recent
> news paper article -- -Knotts might be up for sale -- -Who knows what will
> happen--could this be fact or fiction -- -attention -- ---all elongate
> collectors should watch this development!!!!!!
>
> keeping you informed E. Smith

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Greetings from the west coast
Date: 06 Oct 1997 12:10:39 -0700

Hey,

We had quite a cool vacation and trip! Plus, we found over 50 pennies!

Lots of information and trading stock. Stay tuned for it all.

I'm having some trouble getting e-mail from the outside. I'll let you
all know
when everything is ok.

- Jeff

jdixon@ea.com

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Greetings from the west coast
Date: 06 Oct 1997 16:36:40 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-06 15:12:58 EDT, you write:

> Hey,
>
> We had quite a cool vacation and trip! Plus, we found over 50 pennies!
>
> Lots of information and trading stock. Stay tuned for it all.
>
> I'm having some trouble getting e-mail from the outside. I'll let you
> all know
> when everything is ok.
>
> - Jeff
>
> jdixon@ea.com
>

Hi Jeff!

Welcome back!

-Bob Hoff
TEC#2033

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Woo hoo
Date: 06 Oct 1997 19:02:15 -0700

E-mail is all set. I'll try to get my trading list all setup tonight.

- Jeff

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From: rfritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) locations
Date: 07 Oct 1997 10:26:35 -0400

James Henry wrote:
> Geauga Lake Amusement Park

This is in Ohio, sort of between Cleveland and Akron, and next to Sea
World of Ohio.

Regards,

Bob Fritsch
mailto:rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) WDW penny sets
Date: 07 Oct 1997 11:14:27 -0700

Hi Big Al,

Greetings from the west coast! I was wondering if you had completed the
sets yet. If so, please send them to the following address:

Jeff Dixon
2727 Edison Street #221
San Mateo, California 94403

Sincerely,

Jeff Dixon

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 07 Oct 1997 11:23:36 -0700

Hi everybody,

Yes, my e-mail is all set up. The account defaulted to no-external
e-mail.

I did make it to Niagara Falls on the trip out. The states I have
pennies
from:
Massachusetts,
New York,
Illinois,
Missouri,
Colorado,
Kansas,
Utah

I pressed between 4-10 per penny. On the Niagara Fall dimes - yes I
pressed
7 dupes. I went through rolls of quarters like they were water. In the
end,
there is lots of new information for the list.

I pressed 1 of each for Janelle and Chris. However, I found out later
that
an I LOVE YOU penny in New York was unique. It had hearts around it.
Also, the pennies near Lincoln's tomb and the log cabins I only got a
couple
of. I didn't think there would be pennies and didn't bring any. So, I
had to
scrounge as much as I could from the people there.

Coolest penny experience: St. Louis Science Center.
We showed up to the entrance a half hour after it closed. I have my
face
pressed up against the glass and make sounds. One of the cleaning
people
comes over. I yell through the glass, "do you have any penny machines?"
I hold up a penny to the glass. The woman nods. She yells back "two
dollars." I nod and run back to the car and get my stuff. She won't
let me in
so I give her a roll of quarters and pennies. She presses one of each
and then
skims two dollars off the top for "risking her job." Hey! It's all in
the name of
pennies!

I'll have the trading list together tomorrow. It's been really crazy
here!

- Jeff

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From: "Jeffrey S. Dixon" <jdixon@ccs.neu.edu>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New Mexico Locations?
Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:33:47 -0400 (EDT)

Yes, there is one in the science museum about 2 hours south of Alburqurque.

- Jeff

--
"The road of knowledge is long and winding...Keep to the quest"
jdixon@ccs.neu.edu

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From: Slave to Lady Nikki <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Yippy! Merit Award!
Date: 07 Oct 1997 15:40:04 -0600 (MDT)

On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Matthew Birchard wrote:

> Woo Hoo!!!!
> Hey all, guess what came in the mail for me this afternoon?! TEC
> awarded me, yes _*ME*_ with a MERIT AWARD coin! I got a letter signed by

Congratulations Matt! I guess now we can all say "I knew him
when..." ;)

Peace,

Aahz

~~~Creator of Butterflies, Guardian Angel, Slave to Lady Nikki
~~Ex-Vampire Hunter (Got caught by the only one I need)
~~~ ~List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List
~~~ ~~~~ ~"My name is Aahz and I'm a Tinkaholic" "Hello Aahz!"

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) FW: WDW penny sets
Date: 07 Oct 1997 14:42:30 -0700

Here's Big Al's response.

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>From: Big Al & Pooh Too![SMTP:ramsayal@ix.netcom.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 2:28 PM
>To: Dixon, Jeff
>Subject: Re: WDW penny sets
>
>Hi Jeff!
>
>I got your new address previously. Sorry, I'm not done yet with your penny
>sets. I was out of town til this past weekend, but will start again.
>There were also a few machines missing (for service?), so I will have to
>wait and see on those. Whatever I can't get, I will send the pennies and
>$$ back to you.
>
>Thanks,
>Your Friend in the Parks,
>Big Al
>
>http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html
>
>

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From: Slave to Lady Nikki <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Knotts Berry Farm-- --(tourist attraction in southern calif.)
Date: 07 Oct 1997 15:45:44 -0600 (MDT)

On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, John & Nancy Wooten wrote:

> Knott's is looking for 'major investors' with plans for a major
> improvement/enlargement of the park, according to the news last week. I
> don't think we have to worry about them closing the park. (If you have
> any doubts, just drive past on a Fri. or Sat. evening between now and
> Halloween!!!)
>

Well, Nikki and I were at Knott's Scary Farm this past Saturday
for the 25th Annual Halloween Haunt and it was PACKED! In fact, it was
almost impossible to get amotel room within a few blocks around KBF which
is saying something in October.

From what I've heardKBF is just looking to expand (like every
other amusement park in California). The Friday night Halloween Haunt was
sold out and the Saturday was nearly so. When we were at the park in
September I'd say it was about equally as crowded as Disneyland was the
next day. I don't think they're going anywhere.

Thanks for keeping us informed, though!

Peace,

Aahz

~~~Creator of Butterflies, Guardian Angel, Slave to Lady Nikki
~~Ex-Vampire Hunter (Got caught by the only one I need)
~~~ ~List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List
~~~ ~~~~ ~"My name is Aahz and I'm a Tinkaholic" "Hello Aahz!"

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 07 Oct 1997 18:03:58 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-07 14:23:38 EDT, you write:

> pressed 1 of each for Janelle and Chris. However, I found out later
> that
> an I LOVE YOU penny in New York was unique. It had hearts around it.
> Also, the pennies near Lincoln's tomb and the log cabins I only got a
> couple

HI Jim!

OK, you were waiting for this one! Did the penny machine at Lincoln's tomb
press the image of Abe Lincoln into the penny? :-0

-Bob Hoff

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 07 Oct 1997 15:18:23 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Dixon, Jeff wrote:

>
> Hi everybody,

Welcome home Jeff!

> Yes, my e-mail is all set up. The account defaulted to no-external
> e-mail.

Glad you got this worked out. Two list messages got bounced from
ya, and I'll forward them directly to ya when I hop back over to xmission.

> I did make it to Niagara Falls on the trip out. The states I have
> pennies from:

Wow!

> I pressed 1 of each for Janelle and Chris. However, I found out later

Great! We'll need to get together soon for a live trade
session. Perhaps you, Mickey and I can get together for pizza and
trading or something before I leave town. Anyone else going to be in the
Bay Area this month?

> Coolest penny experience: St. Louis Science Center.

She must not like her job very much if she thought it was only
worth two bucks 8-) The important thing is: You got 'em! And nopt a bad
story atteached to 'em to boot!

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Elongated Coin Mailing List - Digesting
Date: 07 Oct 1997 16:13:35 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

I am sending this message because at one time you either were a
s*bscriber to The Elongated Coin Mailing List or expressed an interest in
it. Many people uns*bscribed due to high volume of messages and asked to
be placed on a Digested version when it became available.

The list's ISP has been VERY unhelpful in setting up a digested
version of the list, so I have finally given up on them and decided to do
things the hard way. Beginning this weekend I will be sending out weekly
Digests of The Elongated Coin Mailing List.

If you would like to be placed on the list for the Digested
version then simply send a message to me <aahz@svpal.org> letting me know
and I will add your name to the list.

Thank you for your patience in this matter and I look forward to
hearing from you all.

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:18:42 -0700

>>OK, you were waiting for this one! Did the penny machine at Lincoln's >tomb
>>press the image of Abe Lincoln into the penny? :-0

Nope Bob,

It's a picture of the tomb. I wondered the same thing. *grin*

- Jeff

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: RE: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:18:47 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Dixon, Jeff wrote:

> >>OK, you were waiting for this one! Did the penny machine at Lincoln's >tomb
> >>press the image of Abe Lincoln into the penny? :-0
>
> Nope Bob,
>
> It's a picture of the tomb. I wondered the same thing. *grin*

So it's a picture of a dead Lincoln on a smashed Lincoln <smirk>

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:27:46 -0700

> So it's a picture of a dead Lincoln on a smashed Lincoln <smirk>

That's terrible!

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Auction donations sought
Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:45:36 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

The bill for the mailing lists ISP is going to come due the
second week of December, and is going to be quite a burden. However,
there is no way I'm going to let this list die after it has grown so much
and helped so many. So.....

Announcing the first ever Elongated Coin Mialing List Auction!
The auction will be held during the month of November and all proceeds
will be used to support the Mailing List. I pay more for the list's ISP
then I do for my primary ISP cause my primary ISP won't host the list.
Any funds above and beyond the ISP bill (just over $100) will be put
towards creating a new domain that will be home to the list itself and
will host elongates-related web sites, ftp sites, etc. The domain is
going to cost roughly $400 to set up and maintain for the first year or so.

What will be auctioned? Anything and everything I can get my
hands on that may possibly be of interest to the members of the list.
I'm putting up several oldies (including two Columbian Expo coins),
various modern issues, some painted elongates, elongated 2x2s, an EC
pamphlet, and a few rolls of copper and/or steel coins.

Do you have anything you can donate to the list? Obviously any
of the items above are of interest to all here, but anything else the
list MAY be interested in would be great: non-elongated coins, tokens or
medals; EC books/magazines, etc; services you can provide; random items
you have lying around the house; just about anything.

Any donations that are not sold will be returned to the donator.

Thanx in advance for your help!

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Message for Jim
Date: 07 Oct 1997 18:05:55 -0700

Jim,

I have an elephant elongate. Can you please send me your e-mail
address.

Thanks,

- Jeff

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>From: Jeffrey S. Dixon[SMTP:jdixon@ccs.neu.edu]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 5:56 PM
>To: JDixon@ea.com
>Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Harris Ranch (fwd)
>
>Forwarded message:
>From owner-elongates@xmission.com Tue Sep 30 01:20:58 1997
>X-UIDL: 756bb8c051554d9d4e0de824c0db7338
>Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 22:17:40 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
>Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Harris Ranch
>To: elongates-digest@mail.xmission.com
>In-Reply-To: <19970929.220220.4743.1.JIMABBOT@juno.com>
>Message-ID: <Pine.3.88.9709292211.A1595-0100000@svpal.svpal.org>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>Sender: owner-elongates@xmission.com
>Precedence: bulk
>Reply-To: elongates-digest@mail.xmission.com
>
>
>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Jim Thorpe wrote:
>
>> I am interested in a penny from Harris Ranch, What is it?
>
> The Harris Ranch coin is a Eurolink issue:
> h. "Harris/Ranch" as logo, "Inn & Restaraunt"
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
>
>+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
>Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
>(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
>Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
>Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
>Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
>List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm
>
>
>
>
>--
>"The road of knowledge is long and winding...Keep to the quest"
>jdixon@ccs.neu.edu
>
>

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From: Slave to Lady Nikki <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Auction donations sought
Date: 07 Oct 1997 19:05:58 -0600 (MDT)

On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Chris Aahz wrote:

> Announcing the first ever Elongated Coin Mialing List Auction!

Ack! Forgot one small piece of information:

Donations can be sent to:

Chris Aahz
925 Ravenscourt Ave #2
San Jose, CA 95128

Just make sure they'll arrive before October 31st, 'cause I'll be
moving to Pasadena then. The auction will begin as soon as I get moved in
down there.

Peace,

Aahz

~~~Creator of Butterflies, Guardian Angel, Slave to Lady Nikki
~~Ex-Vampire Hunter (Got caught by the only one I need)
~~~ ~List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List
~~~ ~~~~ ~"My name is Aahz and I'm a Tinkaholic" "Hello Aahz!"

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From: "Doug Rukavina" <Doug_Rukavina@studio.disney.com>
Subject: (elongates) LA ZOO LIST
Date: 07 Oct 1997 13:14:46 -0700

LA ZOO LIST 10/7/97

Does anyone have a list for the coins at the LA zoo??????

Also FYI: Look for the coins to change at Santa Monica Pier.

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) LA ZOO LIST
Date: 07 Oct 1997 19:44:37 -0700

Doug,

I was there last Wednesday, and have a complete set. Let me check
them out and make a listing and I'll post it tomorrow. Off the top
of my head, there are four machines, which press four coins each.
Two are located near the entrance, outside the gift shops, and the
other are waaaay back in the zoo. I'll give exact locations and
brief descriptions tomorrow.

Nancy

Doug Rukavina wrote:

> LA ZOO LIST
> 10/7/97
>
> Does anyone have a list for the coins at the LA zoo??????
>
> Also FYI: Look for the coins to change at Santa Monica Pier.

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From: Slave to Lady Nikki <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) LA ZOO LIST
Date: 07 Oct 1997 23:08:49 -0600 (MDT)

On 7 Oct 1997, Doug Rukavina wrote:

> Also FYI: Look for the coins to change at Santa Monica Pier.

Do you work at the Pier, Doug? Just curious where you get your
inside information :)

Peace,

Aahz

~~~Creator of Butterflies, Guardian Angel, Slave to Lady Nikki
~~Ex-Vampire Hunter (Got caught by the only one I need)
~~~ ~List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List
~~~ ~~~~ ~"My name is Aahz and I'm a Tinkaholic" "Hello Aahz!"

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Winchester Mystery House
Date: 07 Oct 1997 22:09:33 -0700 (PDT)

Winchester Mystery House Catalog

CA-WMH-1 House Logo
h. House w/ rifle logo, "Winchester/Mystery House/San Jose,
California"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 5/89 Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

CA-WMH-2 Firearms Museum
h. Rifle, "Winchester/Mystery/House/'The Gun That Won The West'/
San Jose/California"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 5/90 Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

CA-WMH-3 Products Museum
h. Flashlight, Bicycle, Hammer, "Winchester/Products Museum/San
Jose, California"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 5/92 Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Paramount's Great America
Date: 07 Oct 1997 22:10:42 -0700 (PDT)

Paramount's Great America

CA-PGA-1 Vortex
h. Concentric circles ending in coaster car logo, "Vortex/Great
America"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: SFPMC Engraver: ???
Notes: Installed before Paramount bought park

CA-PGA-2 Carousel
h. Carousel Horse, "Paramount's/Great America"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: SFPMC Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-PGA-3 Top Gun
h. Jet Fighter, Wings Logo, "Paramount's/Great America/Top Gun"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: SFPMC Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-PGA-4 Fred Flinstone
v. Fred Flintstone, "Paramount's/Great/America"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: 10/96
Roller: SFPMC Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-PGA-5 Days of Thunder
h. Race Car Logo, "Days Of/Thunder/Paramounts/Great America"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: SFPMC Engraver: ???

CA-PGA-6 Drop Zone Logo
h. Logo, "Drop/Zone/Stunt/Tower/Paramount's/Great America"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 3/96 Removed: CA
Roller: SFPMC Engraver: ???

CA-PGA-7 Drop Zone Tower
v. Ride Tower, "The/Drop/Zone/Stunt/Tower/Paramount's/Great America"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 6/96 Removed: CA
Roller: SFPMC Engraver: ???

CA-PGA-8 Dino
v. Dino, "Paramount's/Great/America"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 3/97 Removed: CA
Roller: SFPMC Engraver: ???

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Santa Monica Pier
Date: 07 Oct 1997 22:35:01 -0700 (PDT)

Santa Monica Pier Catalog

CA-SMP-1 Pier Entrance
h. View along pier w/ sign arching overhead, "Santa Monica
Pier/California"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

CA-SMP-2 Pacific Park Logo
h. Logo w/ roller coaster hill, "Pacific Park/Santa Monica Pier"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

CA-SMP-3 Octopus
h. Octopus, "Pacific Park/Santa Monica Pier"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Queen Mary
Date: 07 Oct 1997 22:35:36 -0700 (PDT)

Queen Mary Catalog

CA-QM-1 Logo
h. Crown logo, "The Queen Mary"
Border: Beaded
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

CA-QM-2 Front View
v. Front angled view of ship, "Queen Mary/Long Beach/CA"
Border: Beaded
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

CA-QM-3 Smokestacks
h. Side view of QM's three smokestacks, "The Queen Mary/Long Beach,
CA"
Border: Beaded
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: ENTROPYM@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 08 Oct 1997 02:01:27 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 10/7/97 8:57:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, you write:

> Great! We'll need to get together soon for a live trade
> session. Perhaps you, Mickey and I can get together for pizza and
> trading or something before I leave town. Anyone else going to be in the
> Bay Area this month?

I'm in. We could meet somewhere midway. I'm in Newark, Chris in SJ and Jeff
in San Mateo. That would put us...uh oh, in the middle of the bay. We'll
figure something out.
Anyone else going to be in the area? I'm dying to do some more trading. I
just found out that I have a complete Marine World 11 coin set! Will trade
for a cool set like...San Diego Zoo or Knotts!

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 07 Oct 1997 23:05:47 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 ENTROPYM@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 10/7/97 8:57:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, you write:
>
> > Great! We'll need to get together soon for a live trade
> > session. Perhaps you, Mickey and I can get together for pizza and
> > trading or something before I leave town. Anyone else going to be in the
> > Bay Area this month?
>
> I'm in. We could meet somewhere midway. I'm in Newark, Chris in SJ and Jeff
> in San Mateo. That would put us...uh oh, in the middle of the bay. We'll
> figure something out.

Well, we could all just happen to break down on the San Mateo
Bridge at a pre-specified time and enjoy the sun and surf from the small
emergency parking area ;)

Seriously, though. I'm not very concerned with where (as long as
there's no admission or parking fee). Either SM or Newark are fine with
me. How about either Saturday the 18th or Sunday the 19th?

> Anyone else going to be in the area? I'm dying to do some more trading. I
> just found out that I have a complete Marine World 11 coin set! Will trade
> for a cool set like...San Diego Zoo or Knotts!

Your Knott's coins went out today, Mickey. Sorry I lagged,
but.... well, I'm a flake, there is no excuse.

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging stuff
Date: 08 Oct 1997 00:34:02 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

I hope y'all find the latest additions to my catalog useful. As
always, if you can fill in any of the '??'s then please let me know. All
comments, corrections, questions and criticisms are always welcome!

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Knott's Camp Snoopy
Date: 08 Oct 1997 00:39:26 -0700 (PDT)

Knott's Camp Snoopy Catalog

MN-KCS-1 MN Outline
v. Outline of Minnesota, "Knott's/Camp/Snoopy/Mall Of/America"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

MN-KCS-2 Logo
h. "Knott's/Camp Snoopy/The Minntertainment Company"
Border: Chain
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Frank Brazzell

MN-KCS-3 Park Map
h. Map of park showing major attractions, "Knott's/Camp Snoopy"
Border: Chain
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Frank Brazzell

MN-KCS-4 Camp Bus
h. Old wooden camp sign, "Camp Bus/Knott's/Camp Snoopy"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Jim Dundon

MN-KCS-5 Skyscraper
h. Ferris Wheel, "Skyscraper/Ferris Wheel/Knott's/Camp/Snoopy"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

MN-KCS-6 Paul Bunyans
v. PB in log, "Paul/Bunyan's/Log/Chute"
Border: Chain
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Frank Brazzell

MN-KCS-7 Ripsaw
h. Logo of track and saw blade, "Ripsaw"
Border: Chain
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Frank Brazzell

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catlogging: Science Museum of Minnesota
Date: 08 Oct 1997 00:40:09 -0700 (PDT)

Science Museum of Minnesota Catalog

MN-SMM-1 Tyrannosaurus Rex
h. T-rex, "Tyrannosaurus/Rex/Science Museum of Minnesota"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/97
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

MN-SMM-2 Triceratops
h. Triceratops, "Triceratops/Science Museum of Minnesota"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

MN-SMM-3 Iggy
h. Iguana, "Iggy/Science Museum of Minnesota"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Minnesota's Under Water World
Date: 08 Oct 1997 00:41:14 -0700 (PDT)

Minnesota's Under Water World Catalog

MN-UWW-1 Logo
h. Logo of shark under dome, "UnderWater/World/Mall of America,
Minnesota"
Border: Rope
Installed: ??/97 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

MN-UWW-2 Shark
h. Shark, "Underwater/World/Mall of America, Minnesota"
Border: Rope
Installed: ??/97 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

MN-UWW-3 Fish
h. Fish, "Underwater/World/Mall of America, Minnesota"
Border: Rope
Installed: ??/97 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Valleyfair!
Date: 08 Oct 1997 00:41:53 -0700 (PDT)

Valleyfair! Catalog

MN-VF!-1 Logo
h. Stylized lettering logo, "Valleyfair"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

MN-VF!-2 Park Skyline
h. "Skyline" of park showing three flagged towers, arch, coaster,
carousel, and ferris wheel. "Valleyfair!/Family Amusement Park"
Border: Chain
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Frank Brazzell

MN-VF!-3 Mascot
v. Mascot (Man in Ringmaster outfit), "Valleyfair!"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

MN-VF!-4 Red Garter
h. Saloon logo, "Red Garter/Saloon/Valleyfair!"
Border: Chain
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Frank Brazzell

MN-VF!-5 Excalibur
h. Sword, "Excalibur/Valleyfair!"
Border: Chain
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Frank Brazzell

MN-VF!-6 Dinosaur Pit
h. Brontosaurus, "Dinosaur/Pit/Valleyfair!"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

MN-VF!-7 Whitewater Country
h. WC logo, "Whitewater/Country/Valleyfair!"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

MN-VF!-8 Thunder Canyon
h. TC logo, "Thunder Canyon/Valleyfair!"
Border: Chain
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Frank Brazzell

MN-VF!-9 Wild Thing
h. Stylized lettering, "Wild Thing/Valleyfair!"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1996 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

MN-VF!-10 Wild Thing Logo
v. WT log w/ claw marks and face, "Wild/Thing/Valleyfair!"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1996 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

MN-VF!-11 The Wave
v. TW logo, "The/Wave/Valleyfair!"
Border: Chain
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Frank Brazzell Engraver: Frank Brazzell

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Minnesota Zoo
Date: 08 Oct 1997 00:42:32 -0700 (PDT)

Minnesota Zoo Catalog

MN-ZOO-1 Daniel Dolphin
v. Standing Dolphin, "Minnesota Zoo/Daniel Dolphin"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-2 Robert K. Ray
h. Smiling manta ray w/ sunglasses, diving mask and snorkel,
"Minnesota Zoo/Robert K. Ray"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-3 Simon DeGille
v. Standing shark w/ ring on necklace, "Minnesota Zoo/Simon
DeGille"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-4 Bear
v. Standing bear, "Minnesota/Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-5 Dolphin
v. Jumping Dolphin, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-6 Duck
h. Duck, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-7 Eagle
v. Flying eagle, "Minnesota/Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-8 Komodo Dragon
h. Komodo Dragon, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-9 Manta Ray
h. Manta Ray, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-10 Moose
h. HS of Moose, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-11 Owl
v. Owl on stump, "Minnesota/Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-12 Parrot
v. Parrot on branch, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-13 Tiger
h. Lounging tiger, "Minnesota/Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-14 Shark
h. Shark, "Minnesota/Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-15 Wolf
v. Wolf, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-16 Sophie Shrimp
v. Shrimp, "Minnesota/Zoo/Sophie Shrimp"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/97 Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-17 Arthur Octopus
v. Octopus wearing glasses, "Minnesota/Zoo/Arthur Octopus"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/97 Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

MN-ZOO-18 Starfish
h. Starfish, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/97 Removed: CA
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: TDMD@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongated Coin Mailing List - Digesting
Date: 08 Oct 1997 08:07:17 -0400 (EDT)

Hello:

Although I enjoy reading and following the E-mail...I find it is owerwhelming
. I would like to be placed on the digested version when it becomes
available.

Thanks

TEC1963
TDMD@aol.com

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From: MFrisch328@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catalogging: Valleyfair!
Date: 08 Oct 1997 10:06:43 -0400 (EDT)

Where is Valleyfair?????

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From: "Mindy Couden" <mcouden@netusa1.net>
Subject: (elongates) elongates-Wisconsin Dells
Date: 08 Oct 1997 09:54:25 -0400

Kind of new to this whole thing. But have been "watching" all your
messages for the last week. My son collects elongates quite by accident.
Didn't know this was such a phenomenon! What I would like to know if there
are any Wisconsin Dells. We are going there for the first time at the end
of the month. I'm interested in ones in Indiana also. Seems like most of
your messages deal with WDW and California. Can anyone help us in the
midwest?

mcouden@netusa1.net

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catalogging: Valleyfair!
Date: 08 Oct 1997 10:23:31 -0500

MFrisch328@aol.com wrote:
>
> Where is Valleyfair?????

It is an amusement park in Shakopee, Minnesota

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) elongates-Wisconsin Dells
Date: 08 Oct 1997 10:24:45 -0500

Mindy Couden wrote:
>
> Kind of new to this whole thing. But have been "watching" all your
> messages for the last week. My son collects elongates quite by accident.
> Didn't know this was such a phenomenon! What I would like to know if there
> are any Wisconsin Dells. We are going there for the first time at the end
> of the month. I'm interested in ones in Indiana also. Seems like most of
> your messages deal with WDW and California. Can anyone help us in the
> midwest?
>
> mcouden@netusa1.net
>

I live in Minnesota and there are some here. If interested, let me
know. I have heard of some in the Dells but not of exact locations.

Flats

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From: "Doug Rukavina" <Doug_Rukavina@studio.disney.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) LA ZOO LIST
Date: 08 Oct 1997 08:58:06 -0700

RE>>(elongates) LA ZOO LIST 10/8/97

Thanx Nancy, I appreciate it.

Doug

Doug,

I was there last Wednesday, and have a complete set. Let me check
them out and make a listing and I'll post it tomorrow. Off the top
of my head, there are four machines, which press four coins each.
Two are located near the entrance, outside the gift shops, and the
other are waaaay back in the zoo. I'll give exact locations and
brief descriptions tomorrow.

Nancy

Doug Rukavina wrote:

> LA ZOO LIST
> 10/7/97
>
> Does anyone have a list for the coins at the LA zoo??????
>
> Also FYI: Look for the coins to change at Santa Monica Pier.

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From: "Doug Rukavina" <Doug_Rukavina@studio.disney.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) LA ZOO LIST
Date: 08 Oct 1997 08:59:25 -0700

RE>>(elongates) LA ZOO LIST 10/8/97

I had done a little work there in the past, and there is supposed to be sort
of revival going on. (but these things can take forever)

On 7 Oct 1997, Doug Rukavina wrote:

> Also FYI: Look for the coins to change at Santa Monica Pier.

Do you work at the Pier, Doug? Just curious where you get your
inside information :)

Peace,

Aahz

~~~Creator of Butterflies, Guardian Angel, Slave to Lady Nikki
~~Ex-Vampire Hunter (Got caught by the only one I need)
~~~ ~List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List
~~~ ~~~~ ~"My name is Aahz and I'm a Tinkaholic" "Hello Aahz!"

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) LA ZOO LIST
Date: 08 Oct 1997 08:59:47 -0700

Hi, Doug,

Here's the list, as promised!

Machine 1 - Located on the left as you enter, outside the gift shop.

V - Koala
V - 2 Monkeys
V - Baby Hippo
V - Giraffe (faces left)

Machine 2 - Located on the right as you enter, outside another gift
shop.
V - Kangaroo
H - Lion
H - Leopard
H - Swans

Machine 3 - Located at Silverback's Cafe (E on the map)
H - Tiger
H - Flamingos
V - Coyote
V - Gorilla

Machine 4 - Located at the North America & Africa Snack Area, by the
Giraffe Enclosure (C on the map)
V - Leopard in tree
H - Rhino
H - Mountain Lion
V - Giraffe (Faces right)

If you need more info, let me know.

p.s. to Bert: I'll send more complete info for your list soon!

Nancy

Doug Rukavina wrote:

> LA ZOO LIST
> 10/7/97
>
> Does anyone have a list for the coins at the LA zoo??????
>
> Also FYI: Look for the coins to change at Santa Monica Pier.

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From: MFrisch328@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) elongates-Wisconsin Dells
Date: 08 Oct 1997 13:17:52 -0400 (EDT)

There are machines along the main road where all the shops are located. I
know that there is one ( it has four designs in it) by the last group of
shops just before you over the bridge. I have heard that there might 3 or
4 machines but haven't seen the others. Good Luck!

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) FALL TEC News will be late
Date: 08 Oct 1997 11:47:46 -0700 (PDT)

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Chris-

Pass the word that since Howard had the maillist of TEC members, the TEC
News will be withheld until the list can be fully recreated (end of October).
Adele Vogel is inputting names now.

Corey

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) elongates-Wisconsin Dells
Date: 08 Oct 1997 11:55:55 -0700

If you pick up extras, I'd like to trade.
- Jeff

Mindy said:

>>What I would like to know if there are any Wisconsin Dells.
>mcouden@netusa1.net
>
>
>

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Cool information I received from Penny Works in Boston
Date: 08 Oct 1997 12:03:42 -0700

Boston Museum of Science

There were three different T-Rex designs.

1. Horizontal. Picture of T-Rex with dots on the bottom
"Museum of Science, Boston"
Removed ???

2. Horizontal. Picture of T-Rex with no dots and great teeth
"Museum of Science, Boston"

3. ?

There were two different lion designs

1. Vertical picture of lion. No additional information known.
REMOVED AFTER 1 DAY. Supposed to look more like a monkey.

2. Horizontal picture of a lion. "Museum of Science, Boston"

Penny Works told me that they *might* bring back the extremely
cool shark penny this fall. I guess it's to be in line with the current
OMNI
theatre exhibit. It's a must get!

The Penny Works representative was extremely cool to speak with. I told
him lots of information about the mailing list. Plus, I told him about
the
penny scans and the location-keepers. I told him he should "lurk" on
the
list - and see what kind of information presents itself.

Sorry for the delay in sending this information out - I've been quite
busy.

- Jeff

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Software Engineer Electronic Arts

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) elongates-Wisconsin Dells
Date: 08 Oct 1997 12:29:27 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Mindy Couden wrote:

> Kind of new to this whole thing. But have been "watching" all your
> messages for the last week.

Welcome Mindy!

> My son collects elongates quite by accident. Didn't know this was such
> a phenomenon!

The same can be said for 90% of the list members and probably of
all the collectors who started in the the last 10-15 years.

> What I would like to know if there are any Wisconsin Dells.

Hmmm...let's see what I've got...

v. Stand Rock, "Wisconsin Dells" across top and "Stand/Rock" at bottom

Also have three from The House on The Rock in Spring Green (Is this
near Wisconsin Dells?):

"World's Largest Carousel" w/ Carousel horse
"World's Largest Sea Crature" w/ whale
"The Infinity Room" w/ loooong building

Also in Wisconsin, the Milwaukee Zoo reportedly has seven and the
Milwaukee library has a dinosaur coin.

> I'm interested in ones in Indiana also.

None of the Location Keepers have any listed for Indiana, but I
have a few from ParkeCounty (the courthouse and some covered bridges).
These were rolled by Frank Brazzell so may or may not have been issued at
machines.

> Seems like most of your messages deal with WDW and California.

Well, the majority of the active list members live in California
and CA is also the home of Eurolink (the largest cooin-op machine
manufacturer). Disney is just a hot theme in any souvenir/tourist circle.

> Can anyone help us in the midwest?
>
Have you checked out the Smashed Coin Locator and/or The
Hitchhiker's Guide to Elongated Coins?

SCL is at :
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html

Hitchiker's Guide is at:
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep.home.htm

Good Luck! and let us know if you get any more specific locations!

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Indiana location
Date: 08 Oct 1997 12:39:02 -0700

On route 70, I found a tractor elongate at an oasis. I haven't found my
list
yet from the trip. As soon as I do, I'll post it.

- Jeff

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Software Engineer Electronic Arts

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From: grigoria@sunstroke.sdsu.edu
Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongated Coin Mailing List - Digesting
Date: 08 Oct 1997 13:05:44 -0700

Please transfer me to the digests mailing list. The emails do get overwhelming!

Thanks,

Aline

grigoria@sunstroke.sdsu.edu

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 08 Oct 1997 16:02:32 -0700

That may be true, but I have one from the National Tower in
Gettysburg that has the Bust of Abraham Lincoln on it, so there is a
penny machine that will press the image of Abe onto a penny.

Nancy

Dixon, Jeff wrote:

> >>OK, you were waiting for this one! Did the penny machine at
> Lincoln's >tomb
> >>press the image of Abe Lincoln into the penny? :-0
>
> Nope Bob,
>
> It's a picture of the tomb. I wondered the same thing. *grin*
>
> - Jeff

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From: rfritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Auction donations sought
Date: 08 Oct 1997 21:43:38 -0400

Chris,

I will donate a NENA/USS Constitution set, the same on a Dollar, a
6-coin NH set (less the Santa's Village), and a double sided Mt
Washington Cog RR.

Keep up the good work!

Regards,

Bob Fritsch
mailto:rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: <jkilcoyne@usa.net>
Subject: Re: Re: (elongates) Auction donations sought
Date: 08 Oct 1997 20:07:48

CHRIS, MIGHT HAVE A FEW DONATIONS. WHATS THE AUCTION BENEFITTING?
JUST GOT LOGGED INTO THIS SITE SO IM BEHIND TIMES. JIM

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From: "Kilcoyne" <jkilcoyne@usa.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Auction donations sought
Date: 08 Oct 1997 20:18:04

SORRY FOR LAST MSG I READ MAIL FOR LASTEST TO EARLIEST. SEND ME YOUR
ADDRESS AND ILL SEND SOME DONATIONS JIM

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Trades (anyone interested)??
Date: 09 Oct 1997 01:01:58 -0400 (EDT)

Pick what you like -- maybe you have something I want to trade for-- Lets
talk-- -

1 Movder Grotto ? Masonic elongate
2 Order of the Amaranth
3 Royal Arch Mason chapter
4 Horse head
5 Colorado 1876 (was this the year of statehood)?
6 Congratulations
7 Award --Bible class (ribbon on elongate design)
8 Seasons Greetings

All are Zinc'ers except # 3and #4 these look like coppers.
talk to you later-- --E. Smith

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) What about minor "dues"?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 11:54:01 -0700

What if everybody chipped in a buck or two every couple of months?
I would be willing to do it. I guess it should be on a volunteer basis
only.

It would help Chris and the list out. Plus, it's only 3-4 pennies
anyways.

*grin*

- Jeff

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Software Engineer Electronic Arts

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Any status on Willy?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 11:55:54 -0700

Does anyone know how Willy's feeling? I haven't heard from him in a
while.

- Jeff

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Jeff Dixon
Software Engineer Electronic Arts

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From: Slave to Lady Nikki <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Auction donations sought
Date: 09 Oct 1997 18:01:31 -0600 (MDT)

On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, rfritsch wrote:

> I will donate a NENA/USS Constitution set, the same on a Dollar, a
> 6-coin NH set (less the Santa's Village), and a double sided Mt
> Washington Cog RR.

Wonderful! Thanks Bob.

> Keep up the good work!

And thanx again :)

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Slave to Lady Nikki <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Auction donations sought
Date: 09 Oct 1997 18:03:05 -0600 (MDT)

On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Kilcoyne wrote:

> SORRY FOR LAST MSG I READ MAIL FOR LASTEST TO EARLIEST. SEND ME YOUR
> ADDRESS AND ILL SEND SOME DONATIONS JIM

Welcome to the list, Jim! And thank you. My address is:

Chris Aahz
925 Ravenscourt Ave #2
San Jose, CA 95128

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From: Slave to Lady Nikki <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) What about minor "dues"?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 18:13:08 -0600 (MDT)

On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, Dixon, Jeff wrote:

> What if everybody chipped in a buck or two every couple of months?
> I would be willing to do it. I guess it should be on a volunteer basis
> only.

I'd considered asking for straight donations, but decided against
it for several reasons:

1) It's not really about the money. I do this 'cause I love it.

2) Once people start paying for something they begin to feel a
sense of ownership. While often a good thing, it can also be bad. People
are much more willing to accept 'flaws' in something they have not paid
for, be it mail bombs inadvertently created by the list-owner, spam, or
snesnless ramblings.

3) Bookkeeping. I hate it and certainly don't want to have to do
it if I can avoid it.

4) I, personally, find requests for donations irritating. Those
who can't (or don't want to) donate often feel guilty for not doing so. I
don't want to risk closing anyone out.

Essentially, that's why I came up with the idea of doing an
auction to help support the list. This way people get something they want
and still manage to support the list. If people can't spend money, they
still get the list guilt-free and just miss out on some 'goodies'. Of
course, once I looked thru what I had to auction I realized that I'd need
more stuff if I was going to have any real success, so I was 'forced' to
make a request for donations. I don't intend to repeat that plea as I
feel bad enough doing it once.

Of course, none of this is meant to imply that people shouldn't
feel free to bid extraordinary amounts of money on the auction lots just
to help support the list or send large sums of cash to me without ulterior
motive :)

Peace,

Aahz

~~~Creator of Butterflies, Guardian Angel, Slave to Lady Nikki
~~Ex-Vampire Hunter (Got caught by the only one I need)
~~~ ~List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List
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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) What about minor "dues"?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 17:26:06 -0700

[snip]
Chris said...
> Of course, none of this is meant to imply that people shouldn't
>feel free to bid extraordinary amounts of money on the auction lots just
>to help support the list or send large sums of cash to me without ulterior
>motive :)
>
>If you having trouble spending the large sums of cash you receive,
>I'd be happy to take some off your hands! :)
>
>- Jeff
>
>
>

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) What about minor "dues"?
Date: 09 Oct 1997 21:31:23 -0500

Dixon, Jeff wrote:
>
> What if everybody chipped in a buck or two every couple of months?
> I would be willing to do it. I guess it should be on a volunteer basis
> only.
>
> It would help Chris and the list out. Plus, it's only 3-4 pennies
> anyways.
>
> *grin*
>
> - Jeff
>
> -- --- --
> Jeff Dixon
> Software Engineer Electronic Arts

Sounds good to me>

Flats

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) LA Zoo pennies
Date: 09 Oct 1997 21:36:50 -0500

I would like a set of the 16 available. I could trade 18 from the MN
Zoo if anyone is interested. Thanks.

Flats

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) auction
Date: 09 Oct 1997 21:46:09 -0500

Sending 2 from the MN Science Museum, 1 Indian one, and a Thunder Canyon
from Valleyfair, plus will press a set from Underwater World for it
also.

Flats

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) want pennies
Date: 09 Oct 1997 22:07:40 -0500

Can someone get me the following pennies from Ft. Worth, TX?
Ft. Worth
Zoo-African Savannah
Zoo-baby giraffe
Zoo-baby gorilla
Zoo-baby leopard
Zoo-bear
Zoo-elephant
Zoo-gorilla
Zoo-Komodo dragons
Zoo-lion
Zoo-longhorn
Zoo-Penguin Island
Zoo-Raptor Canyon
Zoo-rhino
Zoo-tiger
Stockyards-inside visitor information center

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) auction
Date: 09 Oct 1997 20:44:06 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, James Henry wrote:

> Sending 2 from the MN Science Museum, 1 Indian one, and a Thunder Canyon
> from Valleyfair, plus will press a set from Underwater World for it
> also.

Thanx Janelle!

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Universal Studios Hollywood
Date: 09 Oct 1997 20:46:11 -0700 (PDT)

Universal Studios Hollywood Catalog

CA-USH-1 Logo
h. USH Marquee logo, "Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1988 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Very clean die, no noticeable imperfections

CA-USH-1a Logo
h. USH Marquee logo, "Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Imperfections around 'I' in Studios

CA-USH-1b Logo
h. USH Marquee logo, "Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-2 Jaws - Straight
v. Shark's head w/ open mouth coming straight up out of water,
"Universal Studios/c Universal City Studios Inc."
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-2a Jaws - Straight
v. Shark's head w/ open mouth coming straight up out of water,
"Universal Studios/c Universal City Studios Inc."
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lines not as defined as USH-2, most noticeable in lettering,
possibly a cast copy of USH-2

CA-USH-3 King Kong
v. HS of Kong, "King Kong/Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1986 Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-4 Earthquake
h. Earthquake logo w/ 'cracks' opening between letters and in
background, "I Survived The Big One/Earthquake/Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-5 Woody - Split Text
v. FL Woody, "Woody/Woodpecker"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-5a Woody - Split Text
v. FL Woody, "Woody/Woodpecker"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: No apparent difference from USH-5

CA-USH-6 Jaws - Angled
v. Shark w/ open mouth coming out of water at angle, "Jaws/
Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1986 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-7 Jaws - Angled - Small
h. Shark w/ open mouse coming out of water at slight angle, "Ja/ws"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: I believe this coin is NOT an in-park issue, but was rolled
by Willy Massey

CA-USH-8 Jurrasic Park - Flat
h. JP dino logo, "Jurrasic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1992 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: No noticeable bone structure on dinosaur

CA-USH-9 Bates Motel
v. House from Psycho, "Universal Studios Hollywood/Bates/Motel/No
Vacancy"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-10 Sword and Scorcery
v. Head and neck of fire breathing dragon, "Sword and Scorcery/
Universal Studios, Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: 'Sorcery' is misspelled on coin

CA-USH-11 Frankenstein
v. HS of Frankenstein, "Frankenstein/Universal Studios, Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-12 Feivel
v. Fievel w/ hat over one eye, "Feivel"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1986 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-13 Yabba-Dabba-Doo
v. Fred Flintstone, "Yabba-Dabba-Doo/Fred/Flintstone"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1991 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-14 Jurassic Park - Semi-Flat
h. JP logo, "Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Dinosaur has some texture to it, still no bones

CA-USH-15 Back/Future-Textured
h. BttF logo, Delorean, "Back/To/The/Future/Universal Studios,
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lettering in BttF logo is textured

CA-USH-16 Backdraft-Textured
h. Backdraft logo, "Universal Studios/Backdraft/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lettering in logo is textured

CA-USH-17 ET Finger Touch - 3D
v. ET and Elliot's hands, fingers touching with glow, "E.T."
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1991 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Both hands are three dimensional

CA-USH-18 ET/USH Logo - Small 3D
h. USH marquee logo w/ ET's head and hands coming over top,
"Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1991 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Hands are three dimensional

CA-USH-19 ET Moon & Bike - Textured
v. Bike w/ Elliot and ET in front of moon, trees beneath, "ET"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Trees are textured

CA-USH-20 Casper
v. Casper, "Casper/Universal Studios Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-21 Cartoon Studios
h. Globe, Cartoon airplane, "Universal/Cartoon Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-22 Rocky & Bullwinkle
v. Rocky and Bullwinkle, "Bullwinkle/Rocket/J. Squirrel/Universal/
Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-23 Chilly Willy
v. Chilly Willy, "Chilly Willy/Universal Studios Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-24 Betty Boop
v. Betty Boop sitting on logo, "Universal Studios/Betty/Boop/
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-25 Universal Studios - Earth
v. Earth, cartoonish plane, stars and clapboard, "Universal/
Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-26 Beethoven
v. HS of Beethoven, "Universal Studios/Beethoven"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-27 Woody Woodpecker
v. Woody Woodpecker, "Woody Woodpecker"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-28 Escape Reality
h. Earth, "Escape Reality/Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Notes: Complete second 'E' in Escape visible

CA-USH-28a Escape Reality
h. Earth, "Escape Reality/Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Notes: Top of second 'E' in Escape obscured by dot

CA-USH-28b Escape Reality
h. Earth, "Escape Reality/Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Notes: Top of second 'E' in Escape and 'D' in Hollywood obscured by
dots

CA-USH-29 Lost World
h. LW logo, "The Lost World/Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-29a Lost World
h. LW logo, "The Lost World/Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-29b Lost World
h. LW logo, "The Lost World/Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-30 ET/USH Logo
h. USH marquee logo w/ ET head and hands coming over top,
"Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-31 Theater Marquee
h. Old style theater marquee, "Studios/Universal/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-31a Theater Marquee
h. Old style theater marquee, "Studios/Universal/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-31b Theater Marquee
h. Old style theater marquee, "Studios/Universal/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-32 Back to the Future-Flat
h. BttF logo, Delorean, "Back/To/The/Future/Universal Studios,
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lettering in BttF logo is flat

CA-USH-33 Backdraft - Flat
h. Backdraft logo, "Universal Studios/Backdraft/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lettering in logo is textured

CA-USH-34 JP - Fully Boned
h. JP logo, "Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Bones in dinosaur fully realized

CA-USH-34a JP - Fully Boned
h. JP logo, "Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Bones in dinosaur fully realized

CA-USH-35 Totally Nickelodeon
h. Nickelodeon splash, "Universal/Studios/Totally/Nickelodeon/
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-36 Rugrats
h. Rugrats logo, "Universal Studios/Rugrats/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-37 Angelica
h. Angelica, "Universal/Studios/Angelica/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-38 ET Moon & Bike - Flat
v. Bike w/ Elliot and ET in front of moon, trees beneath, "ET"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Trees are totally flat

CA-USH-39 ET/USH Logo - Small Flat
h. USH marquee logo w/ ET's head and hands coming over top,
"Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Hands are flat

CA-USH-40 ET Finger Touch - Flat
v. ET and Elliot's hands, fingers touching with glow, "E.T."
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Both hands are flat

CA-USH-41 Universal Jurrassic Park
h. T-rex bones, brontosaurus, "Universal/Studios/Jurassic
Park/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-42 I Survived Jurassic Park
v. JP logo, "I Survived/Jurassic Park/The/Ride/Universal/Studios/
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1996 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-42a I Survived Jurassic Park
v. JP logo, "I Survived/Jurassic Park/The/Ride/Universal/Studios/
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1996 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-43 Jurassic Park - USH
h. JP logo, "Jurassic Park/Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-44 Jurassic Park T-Rex - h.
h. Running T-Rex, "Jurassic/Park/T-Rex/Universal Studios Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-45 Jurassic Park T-Rex - v.
v. Standing T-rex, "Jurassic/Park/T-Rex/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-46 Jurassic Park Raptor
h. Raptor, "Raptor/Jurassic Park/Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) USH Locations
Date: 09 Oct 1997 20:49:23 -0700 (PDT)

Machine Locations at Universal Studios Hollywood
Compiled by Nikki Langness and Chris Aahz

Universal Studios Store -
A) CA-USH-28 Escape Reality
B) CA-USH-29 Lost World
C) CA-USH-30 ET/USH Logo
D) CA-USH-31 Theater Marquee

Emporium -
Front Door -
A) CA-USH-20 Casper
B) CA-USH-21 Cartoon Studios
C) CA-USH-22 Rocky & Bullwinkle
D) CA-USH-23 Chilly Willy

Back Door -
A) CA-USH-24 Betty Boop
B) CA-USH-25 Universal Studios - Earth
C) CA-USH-26 Beethoven
D) CA-USH-27 Woody

Universal Ranch -
A) CA-USH-9 Bates Motel
B) CA-USH-10 Sword and Scorcery
C) CA-USH-11 Frankenstein

Nickelodeon Store -
A) CA-USH-35 Totally Nickelodeon
B) CA-USH-36 Rugrats
C) CA-USH-37 Angelica
D) CA-USH-31a Theater Marquee

Land Before Time Midway -
Machine 1 -
A) CA-USH-6 Jaws - Angled

Machine 2 -
A) CA-USH-4 Earthquake

Machine 3 -
A) CA-USH-5 Woody - Split Text

Machine 4 -
A) CA-USH-1a Logo

Time Traveler's Depot -
A) CA-USH-32 Back to the Future-Flat
B) CA-USH-33 Backdraft - Flat
C) CA-USH-34 JP - Fully Boned
D) CA-USH-1b Logo

Silver Screen Collectibles -
Machine 1 -
A) CA-USH-14 Jurassic Park - Semi-Flat
B) CA-USH-15 Back/Future - Textured
C) CA-USH-16 Backdraft - Textured

Machine 2 -
A) CA-USH-12 Feivel
B) CA-USH-5a Woody - Split Text
C) CA-USH-13 Yabba-Dabba-Doo

Universal Athletic Club
Machine 1 -
A) CA-USH-1 Logo

Machine 2 -
A) CA-USH-8 Jurassic Park - Flat

Take One -
A) CA-USH-17 ET Finger Touch 3D
B) CA-USH-18 ET/USH Logo - Small 3D
C) CA-USH-19 ET Moon & Bike - Textured

ET's Toy Closet -
A) CA-USH-34a JP - Fully Boned
B) CA-USH-38 ET Moon & Bike - Flat
C) CA-USH-39 ET/USH Logo - Small Flat
D) CA-USH-49 ET Finger Touch - Flat

Jurassic Outfitters -
Machine 1 -
A) CA-USH-29a Lost World
B) CA-USH-41 Universal Jurassic Park
C) CA-USH-28a Escape Reality
D) CA-USH-42 I Survived Jurassic Park

Machine 2 -
A) CA-USH-42a I Survived Jurassic Park
B) CA-USH-43 Jurassic Park - USH
C) CA-USH-44 Jurassic Park T-Rex - h.
D) CA-USH-28b Escape Reality

Machine 3 -
A) CA-USH-29b Lost World
B) CA-USH-45 Jurassic Park T-Rex - v.
C) CA-USH-46 Jurassic Park Raptor
D) CA-USH-31b Theater Marquee

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Matthew Birchard <psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catalogging: Universal Studios Hollywood
Date: 10 Oct 1997 01:21:59 -0700 (PDT)

Chris,
Here are a couple ones that you don't have included in your
catalog yet. I'm not totally up on the proper catalogging protocal, so
here is a bunch of detail and I'll let you do the rest. :-) BTW, these
two coins were the basis of my collection back when I had under 30
coins.

Circa 1983, latter part of the summer. Vertical design. Dot border,
dots are somewhat larger than dots on many other coins. Top: "(c)
UNIVERSAL CITY STUDIOS INC." Below: "FRANKENSTEIN'S MONSTER" Picture
of Frankenstein's Monster, nice raised image. Head is large with a big
forehead, the bolts in the neck, and the Monster is wearing a turtle
neck. Reverse of my specimen is heavily pitted, actually it is a mess of
raised bumps. The reverse roller must have been pretty screwed up. The
date is when my dad and I rolled the coin, late summer, 1983. Oh, there
is no start slot.

Horizontal Design. Dot border, except copyright info replaces dots at
top. Start slot on left. Copyright info which replaces dots at top
reads: "(c) 1986 UNIVERSAL CITY STUDIOS INC" Top: "KONGFRONTATION (TM)"
Below: "UNIVERSAL STUDIOS (R)" Picture is of Kong's two hands holding a
tour bus (Universal tour type bus) and Kong's head behind the bus with
his eyes looking through the bus. Mouth is open, nice detail on the
engraving.

So, there ya go. Sorry folks, I have no spares to trade. :-(
And hey Chris, you need to publish a hardcopy version of the catalog once
you've gotten more stuff listed. ANd the proper protocal for catalogging
all issues so that this method can be spread throughout the hobby. Have
you written an article for TEC News about it yet?

Sorry about not keeping in the discussion as much as I'd like,
but I'm on 4 active (including this one) mailing lists, and welp, just
two days ago the tech folks at my school (that provide me with free
e-mail) moved my INBOX because it was bursting with over 250 messages.
No they weren't all new, just stuff that was still "on the table".
Anyway, I do read a good number of the messages off this list, so keep
'em coming. :-)

Matt Birchard
TEC# 1848
Portland, Oregon
USA

e-mail: psu05922@odin.cc.pdx.edu

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) LA Zoo pennies
Date: 10 Oct 1997 10:18:07 -0700

Hi, Flats,

I have already traded my complete set, but I will be going back to
the zoo in the next week or two, so if you are willing to be
patient, I would be happy to get you a set and trade for the MN
Zoo. Let me know!

Nancy

James Henry wrote:

> I would like a set of the 16 available. I could trade 18 from the
> MN
> Zoo if anyone is interested. Thanks.
>
> Flats

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From: Susan Wilson <swilson@CLEMSON.EDU>
Subject: Re: (elongates) LA Zoo pennies
Date: 10 Oct 1997 13:23:48 -0500

How do I get off this list?

At 10:18 AM 10/10/1997 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi, Flats,
>
>I have already traded my complete set, but I will be going back to
>the zoo in the next week or two, so if you are willing to be
>patient, I would be happy to get you a set and trade for the MN
>Zoo. Let me know!
>
>Nancy
>
>James Henry wrote:
>
>> I would like a set of the 16 available. I could trade 18 from the
>> MN
>> Zoo if anyone is interested. Thanks.
>>
>> Flats
>
>
>
>
>
>

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) LA Zoo pennies
Date: 10 Oct 1997 13:57:10 -0500

John & Nancy Wooten wrote:
>
> Hi, Flats,
>
> I have already traded my complete set, but I will be going back to
> the zoo in the next week or two, so if you are willing to be
> patient, I would be happy to get you a set and trade for the MN
> Zoo. Let me know!
>
> Nancy
>
> James Henry wrote:
>
> > I would like a set of the 16 available. I could trade 18 from the
> > MN
> > Zoo if anyone is interested. Thanks.
> >
> > Flats

I just got a set from the MN Zoo today for trading and it looks like it
is your set!!!! I can wait. Thanks.

Flats

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catalogging: Universal Studios Hollywood
Date: 10 Oct 1997 14:23:13 -0700

Chris Aahz wrote:

> Universal Studios Hollywood Catalog
>

Hi, Chris,

Here I go again, messing up your catalog!!!!!

I have three coins you don't list. They were from the "Star Trek
Adventure" which was there from about 1989 until they closed it to
put the Flintstones in. The coins are as follows:

h - Star Trek Logo "Star Trek" (This coin also has the names of
cast members as follows: Captain/Kirk, Mr./Spock, Dr./McCoy,
Scotty, Chekov, Uhura, Sulu. The "Star Trek" is in the middle of
the coin, surrounded by the cast names - pretty hard to describe)
Has Dot Border.

h - Star Trek Adventure Logo "Paramount Pictures/Star
Trek/Adventure/Universal Studios" Has Dot Border

h - Picture of U.S.S. Enterprise with starry background
"U.S.S./Enterprise" Has Dot Border

Also, on your location list, you have a typo, showing a coin in ET's
Toy Closet as number 49, instead of number 40.

When you get down here, you can meet the trouble maker that is
responsible for this (my daughter, Wendy).

Nancy

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From: "Tomita, David" <DTomita@MEDNET.ucla.edu>
Subject: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 10 Oct 1997 14:48:45 -0700

Disneyland Hotel Monorail penny (DIS-DLH-1) is now for the first time
located at the Disneyland Hotel area (it use to be in Disneyland). It
can be found in the Neon Cactus Sports Bar and Grill. I wonder how long
it had been hiding in there?

I might have mentioned this to some of you but Tokyo Disneyland has five
EC's (3 dated 1997) with two more on the way.

Chip 'n' Dale, full length, horizontal, dated 1997
Huey, Dewey and Louie, heads, horizontal, dated 1997
Caste, horizontal, "Tokyo Disneyland", dated 1997

Megara, head on left, "Hercules" horizontal, not dated
Hercules, head on right, "Hercules", not dated

Two more coming Oct. 24
Goofy
Pluto

David Tomita
https://web.archive.org/web/20010414053649/http://www.geocities.com:80/TheTropics/Shores/3599/

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 10 Oct 1997 14:55:22 -0700

Do we have any way of getting the Tokyo DL coins?

- Jeff

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catalogging: Universal Studios Hollywood
Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:43:32 -0700 (PDT)

On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Matthew Birchard wrote:

> Chris,
> Here are a couple ones that you don't have included in your
> catalog yet.

Thank you very much!

> I'm not totally up on the proper catalogging protocal, so
> here is a bunch of detail and I'll let you do the rest. :-)

For the moment, I prefer creating the numbers myself. I've just
finished converting "Yesterday's Elongateds" into the new system and will
start work on Rosato's Encyclopedia when I finally get my paws on one.
The work with Yesterday's has caused several catalogging revisions and I
expect the Encyclopedia to cause more. Until I get that work done, I'd
prefer to do the catalogging myself in order to keep things internally
consistent.

> And hey Chris, you need to publish a hardcopy version of the catalog once
> you've gotten more stuff listed.

That's the plan! Right now I've got a few hundred coins
catalogged and several thousand with tentative numbers. After I get and
convert Rosato's Encyclopedia the first hardcopy editions should be
coming out. Until then, the catalog only exists in my mind and on the net.

> ANd the proper protocal for catalogging all issues so that this method can
> be spread throughout the hobby. Have you written an article for TEC News
> about it yet?

See my comments above regarding publishing the protocol.
Essentially I don't want to end up with conflicting code numbers and the
only way I see to avoid those is to have a large number of coins
pre-catalogged and then assign new numbers thru one person/body of
persons. These things are in progress.

As for publishing in TEC News...I have been told by numerous
people that creating a new catalogging system will only aggravate those
who are used to the old system. I understand this to a degree, but it
has been impressed upon me that simply creating and encouraging the use
of this system is going to cause some MAJOR problems with me and TEC.
Considering the fact that a fair number of TEC insiders have already
decided I'm a trouble maker I think it's best if I hold off on sharing
this with them for the moment. A shame, really, because it will just be
that much harder to do without their help.

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catalogging: Universal Studios Hollywood
Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:49:31 -0700 (PDT)

On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, John & Nancy Wooten wrote:

> Here I go again, messing up your catalog!!!!!

That's what I put 'em up here for!

> I have three coins you don't list. They were from the "Star Trek

Thank you. They've been added. A new CA-USH ctalog will be
released in the next few days, so y'all can trash the old one. With five
'new' coins I figure it's worth renumbering.

> h - Picture of U.S.S. Enterprise with starry background
> "U.S.S./Enterprise" Has Dot Border

HEY BERT! Is this the coin I traded to you at the Meet?!?

> Also, on your location list, you have a typo, showing a coin in ET's
> Toy Closet as number 49, instead of number 40.

Ack! Well, so far that's the only reported typo, so I figure I'm
doing pretty good 8-) I'll repost the location list with the new catalog
numbers as soon as I finish the new catalog numbers.

> When you get down here, you can meet the trouble maker that is
> responsible for this (my daughter, Wendy).

I look forward to it!

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Disneyland special issues?
Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:58:06 -0700

Did Disneyland come out with special issues for this month? I hadn't
heard one way or the other.

- Jeff

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:54:20 -0700 (PDT)

On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Tomita, David wrote:

> Disneyland Hotel Monorail penny (DIS-DLH-1) is now for the first time

That's great news! Thanx, David.

> I might have mentioned this to some of you but Tokyo Disneyland has five
> EC's (3 dated 1997) with two more on the way.

Wonderful!! Are these all on the machine supplied token? Do you
have locations for these machines as well?

So, I take it you found a helpful TDL CM or did you contact the
machine company?

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: RE: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 10 Oct 1997 16:55:17 -0700 (PDT)

On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Dixon, Jeff wrote:

> Do we have any way of getting the Tokyo DL coins?

Well, I've just been begging and pleading with anyone I hear
MIGHT be heading to Japan. 8-)

Peace,

Aahz

+++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ ++++ + Aahz@svpal.org
Ex-Vampire Hunter- + TEC # 2062
(Caught the only one I need) + SECA Co-Founder
Creator of Butterflies + CM # 182
Slave to Lady Nikki ^^*^^ + List-Owner:
Non-Violent Activist + Elongated Coin Mail List
List page: http://www.truewebdesign.com/PennyPage/listsub.htm

>
>

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 10 Oct 1997 20:26:29 -0700

On 10/10/97 4:55 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

>> Do we have any way of getting the Tokyo DL coins?
>
> Well, I've just been begging and pleading with anyone I hear
>MIGHT be heading to Japan. 8-)
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

Me too, I have a friend there (Japan) now and have asked him for help
(via email) but I think he may have headed back here already.

I will be asking some friends (here) from Japan if they have someone that
can get a batch for us...

Bert

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 10 Oct 1997 20:28:37 -0700

On 10/10/97 2:48 PM Tomita, David (DTomita@MEDNET.ucla.edu ) wrote

>Disneyland Hotel Monorail penny (DIS-DLH-1) is now for the first time
>located at the Disneyland Hotel area (it use to be in Disneyland). It
>can be found in the Neon Cactus Sports Bar and Grill. I wonder how long
>it had been hiding in there?

David,

I checked that Sports Bar the day after our List Meeting and there were
no machines in there, so it was added since then.

Bert

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From: BLMC <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 01:23:18 -0400

Dixon, Jeff wrote:
>
> Do we have any way of getting the Tokyo DL coins?
>
> - Jeff

Yeah, Do we???

Ben

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Elongated dimes for trade?
Date: 11 Oct 1997 01:56:02 -0400 (EDT)

Does anyone have elongated dimes that they are interested in trading? If you
send me a list of the elongated dimes you want to trade and what you are
interested in-- -- maybe we can arrange some type of trade.

Thank you E. Smith

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From: Matthew Birchard <psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: (elongates) The Chris Catalog
Date: 11 Oct 1997 00:18:47 -0700 (PDT)

> > Chris,
> > Here are a couple ones that you don't have included in your
> > catalog yet.
>
> Thank you very much!

Not a problem.
>
> > I'm not totally up on the proper catalogging protocal, so
> > here is a bunch of detail and I'll let you do the rest. :-)
>
> For the moment, I prefer creating the numbers myself. I've just
> finished converting "Yesterday's Elongateds" into the new system and will
> start work on Rosato's Encyclopedia when I finally get my paws on one.
> The work with Yesterday's has caused several catalogging revisions and I
> expect the Encyclopedia to cause more. Until I get that work done, I'd
> prefer to do the catalogging myself in order to keep things internally
> consistent.

Sounds good. The one flaw of the Chris Catalog (I just named it, sounds
good) is the sequential numbering. When new issues are discovered which
predate previous entries, the nice neat format may become a bit ragged,
but I don't really see a better way, so I think it is fine. Also, just
curious, what are you doing about coins which are location specific, like
Lord's Prayer issues and store cards? You may have addressed this
already and I just missed it (I mentioned that I don't read everything
from this list), but I'm curious. So the Chris Catalog is in the beta
testing stage now with us 'net folks. :-)

>
> > And hey Chris, you need to publish a hardcopy version of the catalog once
> > you've gotten more stuff listed.
>
> That's the plan! Right now I've got a few hundred coins
> catalogged and several thousand with tentative numbers. After I get and
> convert Rosato's Encyclopedia the first hardcopy editions should be
> coming out. Until then, the catalog only exists in my mind and on the net.
>
Do you have a line on the Rosato Encyclopedia yet? They are spendy, but
worth the $. I suppose I could lend you mine if you wanted. I've got
two of the Encyclopedia's, one unopened. It would cost about $9.00 to
ship to you, but it is a thought. I rarely use my open copy now. You
could keep it until you'd done the conversion. LMK.

> > ANd the proper protocal for catalogging all issues so that this method can
> > be spread throughout the hobby. Have you written an article for TEC News
> > about it yet?
>
> See my comments above regarding publishing the protocol.
> Essentially I don't want to end up with conflicting code numbers and the
> only way I see to avoid those is to have a large number of coins
> pre-catalogged and then assign new numbers thru one person/body of
> persons. These things are in progress.

Again good points.
>
> As for publishing in TEC News...I have been told by numerous
> people that creating a new catalogging system will only aggravate those
> who are used to the old system. I understand this to a degree, but it
> has been impressed upon me that simply creating and encouraging the use
> of this system is going to cause some MAJOR problems with me and TEC.

Yep, I'd have to tend to agree with the aggravation comments. You
represent change and established organizations are resistant to change.
I just formally learned that in my Organizational Behavior class at
University. Puttin' that ed-ju-macation to work right away. :-) Yeah,
I guess there could be some problems, but what could be too MAJOR? TEC
is just a bunch of folks that have an interest in these coins. However,
you're membership # lets everyone know about when you joined, and anyone
over 2000 is considered "new" in my book, and I'd suspect many other
longtime members' perceptions. But seriously, what could the club do?
Kick you out? I don't think so.

> Considering the fact that a fair number of TEC insiders have already
> decided I'm a trouble maker I think it's best if I hold off on sharing
> this with them for the moment. A shame, really, because it will just be
> that much harder to do without their help.
>
The biggest point of aggravation that I can foresee with the Chris
Catalog is the conversion of the previously exsisting listings in
"Yesterday's" and Rosato's "Encyclopedia". Those guys that invented
those catalogging methods are still around and a conversion has never
been done to my knowledge. Meaning Rosato didn't re-number all of the
Martin-Dow numbers. Whether you mean to or not, I'm sure you'll make
them feel like you're "invading" or "altering" their work by re-numbering
them. In those guys' minds, their catalogging systems are the end all,
be all. Just be aware that relisting a perviously listed coin may ruffle
a few more feathers than listing an unlisted modern. Personally I
approve of it, because I see the Chris Catalog as being much more
complete and easier to use. You've got my support and I assume everyone
on this list supporting you too, so more power to you. I'll help where I
can.

Matt Birchard
TEC# 1848
Portland, Oregon
USA

e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 08:53:14 -0500

Bert Creighton wrote:
>
> On 10/10/97 4:55 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote
>
> >> Do we have any way of getting the Tokyo DL coins?
> >
> > Well, I've just been begging and pleading with anyone I hear
> >MIGHT be heading to Japan. 8-)
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Aahz
>
> Me too, I have a friend there (Japan) now and have asked him for help
> (via email) but I think he may have headed back here already.
>
> I will be asking some friends (here) from Japan if they have someone that
> can get a batch for us...
>
> Bert

Could you count me in as well in the total count on people who want
these. Thanks.

Flats

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland special issues?
Date: 11 Oct 1997 10:45:48 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-10 22:13:14 EDT, you write:

> Did Disneyland come out with special issues for this month? I hadn't
> heard one way or the other.
>
> - Jeff
>
>
Hi Jeff!

I'm going over to check today. Will report back.

-Bob Hoff

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 10:45:50 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-10 20:36:51 EDT, you write:

> On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Dixon, Jeff wrote:
>
> > Do we have any way of getting the Tokyo DL coins?
>
> Well, I've just been begging and pleading with anyone I hear
> MIGHT be heading to Japan. 8-)
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>

I've gotten to the point of bribes (er ah, I mean incentives :-)! No coins
yet.

-Bob Hoff

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland special issues?
Date: 11 Oct 1997 10:01:28 -0500

R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-10-10 22:13:14 EDT, you write:
>
> > Did Disneyland come out with special issues for this month? I hadn't
> > heard one way or the other.
> >
> > - Jeff
> >
> >
> Hi Jeff!
>
> I'm going over to check today. Will report back.
>
> -Bob Hoff

Don't forget a set for me, if possible. Thanks.

Flats

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 11:13:28 -0400 (EDT)

Hi fellow elongated penny collectors--
I just wanted to say that I am also interested in the Tokyo DL elongated
pennies.If there is someone out there making a list of all the interested
people--please include me.
Thank you E. Smith

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From: MFrisch328@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) DIS-DLH-1 is back! Tokyo DL has 5 coins!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 12:37:49 -0400 (EDT)

If there is list started for the Tokyo DL elongates, please add my name to
the list. I don't know anyone that will be heading that way but would like
a chance to get the coins. I have been asking a lot of people, so who
knows, maybe a friend of a friend of a friend???? Maybe one of us will get
lucky.

Thanks!

D. Frisch

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) address
Date: 11 Oct 1997 11:51:47 -0500

I need address for the Wooten's and Bert please. I have pennies!!!!!

Flats

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From: "zinful" <zinful@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) auction
Date: 11 Oct 1997 11:20:12 -0000

Hi,
I'll donate a few to the cause aahz
I've got a couple rolled on Hong Kong twenty cent pieces. These coins are
very cool, I think they are what is called fluted (?) the edges of the
coins are wavy.
I have one from DL and one from Knott's.
Gina

I'll send out ASAP

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 16:23:29 -0400 (EDT)

Greetings All!

Just back from Disneyland. Hi Martin from San Diego! (Met him at the Neon
Cactus.
Of course, the restaurant was closed and mostly locked up, but, Martin, his
lady companion, my wife, daughter and I formed a line at the newly
re-discovered DIS-DLH-1 machine! :-). What a great location for a
restaurant, built around a penny press!
Thanks to the poster of that location!

Back to business.....

Checked out the Park, looking for the illusive seasonal sets. Made it to
Teddy Bearra's Arcade. Whooooaaa machine number 624, Ursula (v) HS,
Maleficent (v) HS, and the Wicked Witch (v) 3/4 picture, are now on stage.
Much like last year, but, NO DATE's or "dripping blood" on the ec's. The
machine has been down more than up and wasn't there on the 3rd of the month,
so guess it's really fresh. I rolled a *few* coins before it failed again!
All of you that have posted an interest in these sets before, I'm still
short. However, I'll try to roll more when the machine is up and be as fair
as I can when trading them out. (I have a list of interested parties, but, it
wouldn't hurt to reaffirm your interest by e-mailing to me at
roberthoff@aol.com.) If I can roll an extra set, I will donate it to the
auction.

Back on stage at Teddy Bearra's, is the DIS-DLH-8, Disneyland Hotel Quarter,
DIS-DL-69, Mickey Quarter and DIS-DL-70, Castle Quarter.

Moved from Teddy Bearra's is machine number 534, Thumper, Bambi, and Flower,
now located at the Country Bear Playhouse with the CBP set.

-Bob Hoff
TEC#2033

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 14:28:16 -0700

R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> Greetings All!
>
> Whooooaaa machine number 624, Ursula (v) HS,
> Maleficent (v) HS, and the Wicked Witch (v) 3/4 picture, are now
> on stage.
> Much like last year, but, NO DATE's or "dripping blood" on the
> ec's. The
> machine has been down more than up and wasn't there on the 3rd of
> the month,
> so guess it's really fresh. I rolled a *few* coins before it
> failed again!

I'm going to try to make it to Disneyland tomorrow morning. If the
machine is up, I'll also get extras. Everyone keep your fingers
crossed!!!!!

Nancy

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From: jimabbot@juno.com (Jim Thorpe)
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 18:25:31 EDT

Nancy,

How are you today ?

I am still working on My LA ZOO list, I'll send it out for comparison
asap.

I would like 1 each of any new Disney coins you may be able to get.

Thanks Jim

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 17:59:56 -0500

Count me in for a set of those holiday pennies.

Flats

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:11:10 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-11 17:30:23 EDT, you write:

> I'm going to try to make it to Disneyland tomorrow morning. If the
> machine is up, I'll also get extras. Everyone keep your fingers
> crossed!!!!!
>
> Nancy
>

I've called in at 714 999 4560 and asked that the machine be "tuned up" :-)
Nancy, please let us know how it goes ASAP, I can try PM. I don't think we
should let this one get by us. The machine will most likely have a short
stay on stage if it is like last year's villains. Gotta get while the
gettin' is good! :-)

-Bob
TEC #2033

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:45:13 -0400 (EDT)

Hi fellow collectors-- --

If
someone that goes to Disneyland is able to obtain some of the Holiday
elongates for me -- -I would pay for the cost of the elongate and also mail
you replacement
pre82 copper pennies plus some money for postage.

Thank you E. Smith

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 21:00:06 -0400 (EDT)

Hi fellow collectors-- --
If someone that goes to Disneyland is able to obtain some of the Holiday
Elongates for me -- -I would pay the cost of the elongates and also mail you
replacement pre82 copper pennies plus some money for postage.
Thank you E. Smith

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) MN Zoo pennies-catalogging
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:24:31 -0500

The MN Zoo had 3 dinosaur pennies last year. Here is the description.
No longer available. I used Chris's way to list but Chris, you add the
lettering and numbers. I know they are Eurolink from the little e and
also on same machines as still there.

v. HS T Rex, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

v. FL T Rex, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

h. FL Triceratops, "Minnesota Zoo"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: Eurolink Engraver: Eurolink

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) catalogging: Knott's Camp Snoopy
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:35:22 -0500

There are 2 hand roll machines. One one by the candy store are the
following:

Park Map
Paul Bunyans
Ripsaw
Knott's Camp Snoopy-different from other-see below

Other machine by the bumper cars has the following-also hand roller:

Knott's Camp Snoopy
Ferris Wheel
Map of Minnesota
Camp Bus

h. "Knott's/Camp Snoopy"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: Engraver:

I am not going to try to guess the roller and engraver. Tell me how to
look and I will look on mine or can roll one for Chris and let him tell.

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) Maryland Science Center
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:45:28 -0500

Can anyone get 1 penny from here for me? I need a pre82 one with the
earth at the bottom, a space shuttle, flying saucer, and the moon above
the earth. Please!!!!

Flats

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) Needed pennies
Date: 11 Oct 1997 21:34:29 -0500

In going thru Chris's catalog I found the following ones needed (I
question which ones we NEED) but here goes:

Winchester Mystery House WMH-2 Firearms Museum (working yet ?)

Universal Studios Hollywood-ALL

Now the question is-who of you lucky people who live out in sunny
California would like to make a set for us poor, cold people in
Minnesota? Can offer MN Zoo pennies, MN Science Museum, Knott's Camp
Snoopy Mall of America, Underwater World, and if you want to wait until
Valley Fair opens again in the spring of 98 those pennies as well.

I also noticed I do have a King Kong from Universal Studios which is as
follows:

v. King Kong with arms in front of head, King Kong/Universal City
Studio Inc.
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

Looks very similar to the JA/WS one I have right next to it which I
think is USH-7 so is this also perhaps a Willy Massey one and not a park
one?

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:24:18 -0700

R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> I've called in at 714 999 4560 and asked that the machine be
> "tuned up" :-)
> Nancy, please let us know how it goes ASAP, I can try PM. I don't
> think we
> should let this one get by us. The machine will most likely have
> a short
> stay on stage if it is like last year's villains. Gotta get while
> the
> gettin' is good! :-)
>
> -Bob
> TEC #2033

Good idea!!! Now if they just haven't taken the machine off
stage to "tune it up" we should be in business. I'll let you know
when I get home.

Nancy

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Needed pennies
Date: 11 Oct 1997 20:37:43 -0700

James Henry wrote:

> In going thru Chris's catalog I found the following ones needed (I
>
> question which ones we NEED) but here goes:
>
> Winchester Mystery House WMH-2 Firearms Museum (working yet ?)
>
> Universal Studios Hollywood-ALL
>
> Now the question is-who of you lucky people who live out in sunny
> California would like to make a set for us poor, cold people in
> Minnesota? Can offer MN Zoo pennies, MN Science Museum, Knott's
> Camp
> Snoopy Mall of America, Underwater World, and if you want to wait
> until
> Valley Fair opens again in the spring of 98 those pennies as well.
>
>

Hi, again,

My daughter was at Universal Studios a couple of weeks ago, and got
extras when she got some for me. She missed a few machines, and
some were out of order, but I have quite a few of them. When I get
them organized, I'll send you a list of what I have, and you can let
me know if you are interested. Shouldn't be more than a couple of
days. Sounds like you might have more I would like. I'm especially
interested in the Camp Snoopy ECs. I think they would compliment my
Knott's Berry Farm set nicely.

Nancy

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From: ENTROPYM@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Needed pennies
Date: 12 Oct 1997 00:29:04 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 10/11/97 8:39:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, you write:

> James Henry wrote:
>
> > In going thru Chris's catalog I found the following ones needed (I
> >
> > question which ones we NEED) but here goes:
> >
> > Winchester Mystery House WMH-2 Firearms Museum (working yet ?)
> >

It's usually working, it just makes bad presses.
I'll try to get some more.
Chris lives close by for the time being, maybe he can help.

Mickey

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 01:34:44 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-11 23:26:35 EDT, you write:

>
> Good idea!!! Now if they just haven't taken the machine off
> stage to "tune it up" we should be in business. I'll let you know
> when I get home.
>
> Nancy
>

Hi Nancy;

Me too! The girl at the counter in the gift shop told me the "Witches"
penney press has been down a lot in the few days it's been on stage. :-(
Maybe if we push, they'll get it to work before it's gone for the
year. (Squeeky wheel you know.)

-Bob Hoff

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Quick update
Date: 12 Oct 1997 11:24:21 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, John & Nancy Wooten wrote:

> That may be true, but I have one from the National Tower in
> Gettysburg that has the Bust of Abraham Lincoln on it, so there is a
> penny machine that will press the image of Abe onto a penny.

Actually, Don Adams did a complete numismatic type series back in
the '70s. He made beautiful reproductions of the obverse and reverse of
each type coin issued n the US and rolled them on pennies, nickels and dimes.
So, you can actually get a penny rolled on a penny :)

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) The Chris Catalog
Date: 12 Oct 1997 11:59:34 -0700 (PDT)

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Matthew Birchard wrote:

> Sounds good. The one flaw of the Chris Catalog (I just named it, sounds

Actually, it'll probably be known as the Aahz catalog. General
consensus amongst collectors is that you refer to a numbering system by
the author's last name. I actually prefer Aahz Catalog to CHris Catalog
anyway.

> good) is the sequential numbering. When new issues are discovered which
> predate previous entries, the nice neat format may become a bit ragged,
> but I don't really see a better way, so I think it is fine. Also, just

Well, after much thought I simply decided to number new finds of
older issues in a category as the next higher number. There really isn't
a better way to do it that I can think of and precedent has already ben
set in by Martin-Dow in YE. A few of their listings have issues dated an
earlier year given a higher number then issues dated later. (I hope that
sentence made sense :)

> curious, what are you doing about coins which are location specific, like
> Lord's Prayer issues and store cards? You may have addressed this

Well, I've come up with a new (and I think improved) method of
catalogging Lord's Prayer coins. I'll post that info soon. It's based
on the Martin-Dow system, only slightly more refined and consistent. I'm
considering doing a similar system for Lucky Coins, but haven't worked
out the details yet.

Store cards will be addressed in another post later today as I
have some questions for the group regarding them.

> Do you have a line on the Rosato Encyclopedia yet? They are spendy, but
> worth the $. I suppose I could lend you mine if you wanted. I've got

Well, I know WHERE to get it, and I know it's worth the money,
I;ve just been really strapped lately. Once I get moved down south I
should be able to get one in fairly short order. If not I just may take
you up on your generous offer and borrow yours for a while.

> > As for publishing in TEC News...I have been told by numerous
> > people that creating a new catalogging system will only aggravate those
>
> Yep, I'd have to tend to agree with the aggravation comments. You
> represent change and established organizations are resistant to change.
> I just formally learned that in my Organizational Behavior class at
> University. Puttin' that ed-ju-macation to work right away. :-) Yeah,

You always knew college would be good for sumthin, dintchya?

> I guess there could be some problems, but what could be too MAJOR? TEC
> is just a bunch of folks that have an interest in these coins. However,
> you're membership # lets everyone know about when you joined, and anyone
> over 2000 is considered "new" in my book, and I'd suspect many other
> longtime members' perceptions. But seriously, what could the club do?
> Kick you out? I don't think so.

In order for any project of this scope to be successful it really
needs the assistance of the long-term TEC members. They've got the coins
and the knowledge. My questioning of the election process this year has
already got one Board member refusing to correspond with me, and a few
others VERY leery of anything I have to say.

> The biggest point of aggravation that I can foresee with the Chris
> Catalog is the conversion of the previously exsisting listings in
> "Yesterday's" and Rosato's "Encyclopedia". Those guys that invented
> those catalogging methods are still around and a conversion has never
> been done to my knowledge. Meaning Rosato didn't re-number all of the
> Martin-Dow numbers.

Although I get the impression he did renumber quite a few.
One of Angelo's recent articles mentions several cross-listings. I am
assuming that he still listed them under his system in his book.

> Whether you mean to or not, I'm sure you'll make
> them feel like you're "invading" or "altering" their work by re-numbering
> them. In those guys' minds, their catalogging systems are the end all,
> be all. Just be aware that relisting a perviously listed coin may ruffle
> a few more feathers than listing an unlisted modern.

I understand what I'm getting in to, that's why I'm kinda 'lying
low' with it for now. Essentially it's really just a modified Martin-Dow
system. From what I've seen Martin-Dow is location based and Rosato is
Roller based. I don't like the idea of a roller based system for a lot
of reasons, but I also see where it can be useful for SERIOUS long-term
collectors and definetly for researchers. The MArtin-Dow system kind of
fell apart even within YE. With so many modern coins being issued it
falls apart even more. Everything needs to change with time, and I think
it's time for this new system.

The reason I'm converting the old systems is to make the new
system internally consistent. It wouldn't do a lot of good for me to
list the current San Francsico Cliff House issue as CA-SFCH-1 when there
were several Cliff House coins issued prior to 1965 and likely several
more between then and now. The current issue os at least the 12th or so,
and the only way to find that number is to convert the old systems.

> Personally I
> approve of it, because I see the Chris Catalog as being much more
> complete and easier to use. You've got my support and I assume everyone
> on this list supporting you too, so more power to you. I'll help where I
> can.
>
Thank you very much! I'm going to need all the help I can get working
on this thing and all the support I can get presenting it to the majority
of TEC. Having a Merit Award winner by my side certainly can't hurt :)

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) auction
Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:01:04 -0700 (PDT)

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, zinful wrote:

> Hi,
> I'll donate a few to the cause aahz
> I've got a couple rolled on Hong Kong twenty cent pieces. These coins are
> very cool, I think they are what is called fluted (?) the edges of the
> coins are wavy.
> I have one from DL and one from Knott's.

Great! Foreign coins are pretty popular.

Looks like the auctions coming along great!

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:10:15 -0700 (PDT)

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> re-discovered DIS-DLH-1 machine! :-). What a great location for a
> restaurant, built around a penny press!

I'm confused. I thought the Neon Cactus was a bar. And are you
trying to tell me that they put the machine right in the center of the
action? That'd be hella cool!

> Checked out the Park, looking for the illusive seasonal sets. Made it to
> Teddy Bearra's Arcade. Whooooaaa machine number 624, Ursula (v) HS,
> Maleficent (v) HS, and the Wicked Witch (v) 3/4 picture, are now on stage.
> Much like last year, but, NO DATE's or "dripping blood" on the ec's. The

Hmmm....my money says this is going to stay after halloween since
the date's been removed. Did they redo the characters names in a
'normal' type-face or did they just remove it entirely? Essentially I'm
trying to figure out if they modified the die or re-did it with the same
images.

> Back on stage at Teddy Bearra's, is the DIS-DLH-8, Disneyland Hotel Quarter,
> DIS-DL-69, Mickey Quarter and DIS-DL-70, Castle Quarter.

Hip, hip, hooray! Maybe their machine tech was on vacation or
something. I'm glad this one's back for two reasons: 1) I didn't get 'em
yet and there was no apparent reason for removal, and 2) This makes it
less likely for the holiday coins to be put on quarters.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:13:48 -0700 (PDT)

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> I've called in at 714 999 4560 and asked that the machine be "tuned up" :-)
> Nancy, please let us know how it goes ASAP, I can try PM. I don't think we
> should let this one get by us. The machine will most likely have a short
> stay on stage if it is like last year's villains. Gotta get while the
> gettin' is good! :-)

I have a feeling it'll hang around since it's not dated, but I
still recommend 'Getting while the getting's good". If it's having this
many problems it's first few days on stage the machine itself may need to
be replaced. Most likely in that case they'd still put the die in
another machine, but ya never know.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) MN Zoo pennies-catalogging
Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:16:21 -0700 (PDT)

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, James Henry wrote:

> The MN Zoo had 3 dinosaur pennies last year. Here is the description.
> No longer available. I used Chris's way to list but Chris, you add the
> lettering and numbers. I know they are Eurolink from the little e and
> also on same machines as still there.

Thanx for the info, Janelle!

Listing the coins like this, sans numbers, makes things a LOT
easier for me in the catalogging process. So, if anyone else wants to
start reporting coins this way I, for one, would certainly appreciate it 8-)

Peace,

Aahz

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) auction
Date: 12 Oct 1997 15:24:36 -0400 (EDT)

Hi fellow colectors of elongates-- -
I am sending Aahz a Boulder City/Hoover Dam commerative elongated penny.There
is a lot of detail in the center of this elongate --use a hand lens.
Talk to you later -- Al Smith

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) catalogging: Knott's Camp Snoopy
Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT)

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, James Henry wrote:

> There are 2 hand roll machines. One one by the candy store are the
<snip>
> Knott's Camp Snoopy-different from other-see below
<snip>
>
> h. "Knott's/Camp Snoopy"
> Border: Dotted
> Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
> Roller: Engraver:

So this is the same as MN-KCS-2 Logo, except it doesn't say
'Minntertainment..' below it, right?

> I am not going to try to guess the roller and engraver. Tell me how to
> look and I will look on mine or can roll one for Chris and let him tell.

Well, the roller, is who made/placed the machine. If you can't
find a name/card on the machine you can sometimes find out from a nearby
clerk or supervisor. The engraver is discovered via initials on the
coin, usually in the border. The second logo coin is probably a Jim
Dundon issue and if so, will have the inital 'J' replacing the center dot
on the bottom and the initial 'D' replacing the the center dot on the top.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) auction
Date: 12 Oct 1997 12:38:01 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 AlinCal2@aol.com wrote:

> Hi fellow colectors of elongates-- -
> I am sending Aahz a Boulder City/Hoover Dam commerative elongated penny.There
> is a lot of detail in the center of this elongate --use a hand lens.
> Talk to you later -- Al Smith

Thanx! I just may bid on this one myself <grin>

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From: "..." <...>
Subject: Re: (elongates) FALL TEC News will be late
Date: 12 Oct 1997 15:13:56 -0500

Fall? I never got the Summer one. Does anyone know where I can get one?
...
P.O. Box 111812
Carrollton, Texas 75011-1812

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> From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
> To: Elongates Mail List <elongates-digest@xmission.com>
> Subject: (elongates) FALL TEC News will be late
> Date: Wednesday, October 08, 1997 1:47 PM
>
> -- --- --- -- Forwarded message -- --- --- --
> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:52:31 -0400 (EDT)
> From:WSons@aol.com
> To: aahz@svpal.org
> Subject: Fall TEC News
>
> Chris-
>
> Pass the word that since Howard had the maillist of TEC members, the TEC
> News will be withheld until the list can be fully recreated (end of
October).
> Adele Vogel is inputting names now.
>
> Corey
>
>

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) FALL TEC News will be late
Date: 12 Oct 1997 14:02:13 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, ... wrote:

> Fall? I never got the Summer one. Does anyone know where I can get one?
> ...
> P.O. Box 111812
> Carrollton, Texas 75011-1812
>
You can contact Corey Wylde, the TECN editor at <wsons@aol.com>.
He handles the printing and mailing as well as the editing. If he can't
help you directly, then he can probably direct you to the proper person.
If all else fails, let me know and I'll photocopy mine for you.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: MFrisch328@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 17:06:34 -0400 (EDT)

Does anyone know if WDW has special holiday issues - and if they do, any idea
where the machines would be?

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From: Slave to Lady Nikki <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 15:10:58 -0600 (MDT)

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 MFrisch328@aol.com wrote:

> Does anyone know if WDW has special holiday issues - and if they do, any idea
> where the machines would be?
>
>

The holiday issues usually (meaning the last two years) have come
out in November, so start looking for them then.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Needed pennies
Date: 12 Oct 1997 16:14:47 -0700 (PDT)

On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, James Henry wrote:

> I also noticed I do have a King Kong from Universal Studios which is as
> follows:
<snip>
> Looks very similar to the JA/WS one I have right next to it which I
> think is USH-7 so is this also perhaps a Willy Massey one and not a park
> one?

It's pretty easy to tell what Willy has rolled once you know what
you're looking for. The back of Willy's coins have the image of the coin
in a type of relief. I don't really know how to explain this, but if you
have any coins you KNOW Willy rolled, look at the reverse. Normally, if
you can see the image at all it is merely a flat image, whereas Willy has
a special process that creates a three dimensional image of the reverse
of the coin.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: jimabbot@juno.com (Jim Thorpe)
Subject: Re: (elongates) The Chris Catalog
Date: 12 Oct 1997 19:26:31 EDT

Chris,

I support you 100% percent on the production of your numbering
system & catalog.

Sincerely Jim

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Needed pennies
Date: 12 Oct 1997 19:01:37 -0500

It is from Willy!!

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) catalogging: Knott's Camp Snoopy
Date: 12 Oct 1997 19:08:27 -0500

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, James Henry wrote:
>
> > There are 2 hand roll machines. One one by the candy store are the
> <snip>
> > Knott's Camp Snoopy-different from other-see below
> <snip>
> >
> > h. "Knott's/Camp Snoopy"
> > Border: Dotted
> > Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
> > Roller: Engraver:
>
> So this is the same as MN-KCS-2 Logo, except it doesn't say
> 'Minntertainment..' below it, right?
>
> > I am not going to try to guess the roller and engraver. Tell me how to
> > look and I will look on mine or can roll one for Chris and let him tell.
>
> Well, the roller, is who made/placed the machine. If you can't
> find a name/card on the machine you can sometimes find out from a nearby
> clerk or supervisor. The engraver is discovered via initials on the
> coin, usually in the border. The second logo coin is probably a Jim
> Dundon issue and if so, will have the inital 'J' replacing the center dot
> on the bottom and the initial 'D' replacing the the center dot on the top.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

No, they are two different coins. The one without the mini info takes
up more of the coin-Knott's is larger and Camp Snoopy is more spread out
over the coin. Also a dotted border v. chain. Info on the machines is
RW Vending 612-895-1078. You guys now have me writing down everything
off these machines.

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 17:12:05 -0700

Hooray!!!!!

The Villains Machine was there and working very well this morning.
Ursula could use a little adjustment, but over all everything was
fine. I rolled several extra sets, so if anyone is interested,
please let me know. Always willing to help out our friends that
can't get to a location.

Nancy

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From: RobertHoff@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Disneyana show report
Date: 12 Oct 1997 20:22:45 -0400 (EDT)

Hi;

First, thank you to Chris Aahz for poviding this great medium of
communication and to Jim for the heads up about the Disneyana Show. It was
great and I surely would have missed it if it weren't for their help.

I arrived at 10:45 AM for the freebie admission at 11:00 AM. $10.00 would
get you in at 8:30. I found two maybe three people with ec's for sale. Most
of them were current issues at Disneyland or at WDW. Many had Disneyana
cents and quarters for sale. I was surprised to find a only a few "retired"
coins, no CM issues and no sign of anything like a DIS-DL-1, 10, or 11. One
seller, a nice guy, mentioned he had sold a dated seasonal set this AM, his
last one! (OK, if you bought this, you know who you are!! :-) Another seller
had the same but smaller selection. Prices ranged around $1.00 for cents and
$3.00 quarters that are currently available at Disneyland or WDW. Retired
nickels (*IF* you got there before they were sold) $5.00 up to maybe $10.00
with the "seasonals" on the lower side and 40th Ann. etc. on the higher side.
No CM issues found. Most did not even know what they are. Of course, I
checked for "Dalmations", none to be found. My "big" purchase was a set of
1996 Villains at $9.00. My daughter, Stasi, bought a set of 1995 seasonals
for her set at $12.00 and my wife purchased some Disneyana coins for her,
new, just started it today, set of Disneyana ec's. Had hoped to find trading
stock and make a purchase or two for friends, but, selection and price were
not right. I do think that inventories come and go so the next show may
offer more hard to get issues.

Happy Collecting,

-Bob Hoff
TEC #2033

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) DL Machine changes and Villains
Date: 12 Oct 1997 20:25:25 -0400 (EDT)

Hi All;

After the Disneyana show, of course, we stopped by the park and checked the
New Villains machine out (Need a number for this one, Aahz! :-). Although
not perfectly, it was working, even after we left :-)! Rolled some cents for
trades.

While at the Penny Arcade, I noticed the Hercules quarter machine
(DIS-DL-89-90-91) was gone. Also the Mickey, Mickey, and Goofy, sports
(DIS-DL- 65,66,67) ec machine was gone. No new machines found. I would
suspect that the machines were moved. A limited search did not find them
however.

Happy Collecting,

-Bob Hoff

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 20:28:25 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-12 15:13:38 EDT, you write:

> re-discovered DIS-DLH-1 machine! :-). What a great location for a
> > restaurant, built around a penny press!
>
> I'm confused. I thought the Neon Cactus was a bar. And are you
> trying to tell me that they put the machine right in the center of the
> action? That'd be hella cool!

Yep, it's a bar, but, I took my 12 year old in, so I'm going to stick with
restaurant! :-)
Actually, it's possible there are other things to do at the Neon Cactus, but,
I only
see penney presses. :-)

>
> > Checked out the Park, looking for the illusive seasonal sets. Made it
to
> > Teddy Bearra's Arcade. Whooooaaa machine number 624, Ursula (v) HS,
> > Maleficent (v) HS, and the Wicked Witch (v) 3/4 picture, are now on
stage.
> > Much like last year, but, NO DATE's or "dripping blood" on the ec's.
The
>
> Hmmm....my money says this is going to stay after halloween since
> the date's been removed. Did they redo the characters names in a
> 'normal' type-face or did they just remove it entirely?

I think they are the very much like last year. Close inspection shows drips
of blood
on the letters of the name. However, they are new dies with several small
differences when compared to last year's.

> Essentially I'm
> trying to figure out if they modified the die or re-did it with the same
> images.

I'd bet new dies.

>
> > Back on stage at Teddy Bearra's, is the DIS-DLH-8, Disneyland Hotel
> Quarter,
> > DIS-DL-69, Mickey Quarter and DIS-DL-70, Castle Quarter.
>
> Hip, hip, hooray! Maybe their machine tech was on vacation or
> something. I'm glad this one's back for two reasons: 1) I didn't get 'em
> yet and there was no apparent reason for removal, and 2) This makes it
> less likely for the holiday coins to be put on quarters.

I was surprized to see the machine, but, I hope the Disneyland Hotel coin
will be redone when the DLH gets a face lift.

-Bob

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) The Chris Catalog
Date: 12 Oct 1997 17:28:51 -0700

Chris Aahz wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Matthew Birchard wrote:
>
> > Sounds good. The one flaw of the Chris Catalog (I just named
> it, sounds
>
> Actually, it'll probably be known as the Aahz catalog.
> General
> consensus amongst collectors is that you refer to a numbering
> system by
> the author's last name. I actually prefer Aahz Catalog to CHris
> Catalog
> anyway.
>

Hey, Chris, How about Aahz from A to Z????

Nancy

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 19:28:31 -0500

John & Nancy Wooten wrote:
>
> Hooray!!!!!
>
> The Villains Machine was there and working very well this morning.
> Ursula could use a little adjustment, but over all everything was
> fine. I rolled several extra sets, so if anyone is interested,
> please let me know. Always willing to help out our friends that
> can't get to a location.
>
> Nancy

Count me in. Sending yours out Tuesday after the holiday

Janelle

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 19:30:02 -0500

John & Nancy Wooten wrote:
>
> Hooray!!!!!
>
> The Villains Machine was there and working very well this morning.
> Ursula could use a little adjustment, but over all everything was
> fine. I rolled several extra sets, so if anyone is interested,
> please let me know. Always willing to help out our friends that
> can't get to a location.
>
> Nancy

Count me in. Sending yours Tuesday after the holiday.

Janelle

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyana show report
Date: 12 Oct 1997 19:36:51 -0500

Oh how you make us here in the Arctic long for the warmth of California and its
pennies at shows!!!! Rained here all day. Cold coming in. Means snow :(

Flats

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 17:40:33 -0700

Chris Aahz wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:
>
> > re-discovered DIS-DLH-1 machine! :-). What a great location for
> a
> > restaurant, built around a penny press!
>
> I'm confused. I thought the Neon Cactus was a bar. And are
> you
> trying to tell me that they put the machine right in the center of
> the
> action? That'd be hella cool!
>

Actually, the machine is off to the side in a room with game
machines and air hockey, but you do get to wander around the whole
bar before you find it if you come in the right door. It's a great
machine! It has the instructions carved into the wooden case.

> > Checked out the Park, looking for the illusive seasonal sets.
> Made it to
> > Teddy Bearra's Arcade. Whooooaaa machine number 624, Ursula (v)
> HS,
> > Maleficent (v) HS, and the Wicked Witch (v) 3/4 picture, are now
> on stage.
> > Much like last year, but, NO DATE's or "dripping blood" on the
> ec's. The
>

Actually, if you look carefully, there appears to be something
running from the bottom of each letter in the name. It's so small,
it's easy to miss, but I think we have our "dripping blood".

> Hmmm....my money says this is going to stay after
> halloween since
> the date's been removed. Did they redo the characters names in a
> 'normal' type-face or did they just remove it entirely?
> Essentially I'm
> trying to figure out if they modified the die or re-did it with
> the same
> images.
>

After comparing them with last years, the look to me like they
re-did the die with the same (or very close) images. My first
thought was that they had just removed the date from the die, but
the figures have been repositioned so they are closer to the top,
leaving no room for a date.

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) NEW DL EC's!
Date: 12 Oct 1997 17:48:35 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, John & Nancy Wooten wrote:

> After comparing them with last years, the look to me like they
> re-did the die with the same (or very close) images. My first
> thought was that they had just removed the date from the die, but
> the figures have been repositioned so they are closer to the top,
> leaving no room for a date.

Okay, then. Two people say new die, it must be a new die. So,
the following can be added to your DIS-DL catalogs:

DIS-DL-98 Ursula w/ blood
v. HS of Ursula, "Ursula/Disneyland"
Installed: 10/97 Removed: CA

DIS-DL-99 Maleficent w/ blood
v. HS of Maleficent, "Maleficent/Disneyland"
Installed: 10/97 Removed: CA

DIS-DL-100 Wicked Witch w/ blood
v. Waist up of Wicked Witch, "Wicked Witch/Disneyland"
Installed: 10/97 Removed: CA

I'm pretty much assuming the descriptions from what you guys have
posted, so please correct me if they're wrong.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) catalogging: Knott's Camp Snoopy
Date: 12 Oct 1997 17:55:15 -0700 (PDT)

Thanx Janelle!

Okay, so here's the listing for the latest KCS coin (which I
still need for my collection, btw :) -

MN-KCS-8 Logo - Dotted
h. "Knott's/Camp Snoopy"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: RW Vending Engraver: Jim Dundon

> over the coin. Also a dotted border v. chain. Info on the machines is
> RW Vending 612-895-1078. You guys now have me writing down everything
> off these machines.

That's the plan ;)

Peace,


Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyana show report
Date: 12 Oct 1997 18:05:57 -0700 (PDT)

Thanx for the show report Bob!

On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 RobertHoff@aol.com wrote:

> I arrived at 10:45 AM for the freebie admission at 11:00 AM. $10.00 would
> get you in at 8:30. I found two maybe three people with ec's for sale. Most

Out of about how many dealers?

> had the same but smaller selection. Prices ranged around $1.00 for cents and
> $3.00 quarters that are currently available at Disneyland or WDW. Retired
> nickels (*IF* you got there before they were sold) $5.00 up to maybe $10.00
> with the "seasonals" on the lower side and 40th Ann. etc. on the higher side.

Prices seem fairly reasonable given the setting. Typically
you're going to find modern/current elongates from coin dealers for
around a buck. I could see $5 for the retired coins, though I'd rather
pay less, these aren't going to be as common as long term machines that
are now retired. $10 seems a bit high, but I might pay it for the 1995
issues. Of course, at the moment my budget is $0, but these comments are
'in general'.

> No CM issues found. Most did not even know what they are. Of course, I
> checked for "Dalmations", none to be found.

I should of thought of this before you went, but....

You didn't happen to take a couple print outs of my DIsney
catalog to provide the dealers did you? If you got any contact info from
them we could forward 'em copies.

> My "big" purchase was a set of
> 1996 Villains at $9.00. My daughter, Stasi, bought a set of 1995 seasonals
> for her set at $12.00 and my wife purchased some Disneyana coins for her,
> new, just started it today, set of Disneyana ec's. Had hoped to find trading

Sounds like you got some good stuff for the whole family!

Peace,

Aahz

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Disneyland Memorabilia (are you interested)
Date: 12 Oct 1997 21:41:34 -0400 (EDT)

A red aprox. 20 inch square bandana with a border around it-- --
(these words are written on the bandana)

Happy Trails
Ron Dominguez
August 31,1994

It is my understanding that this bandana was an item that guests recieved at
Mr.
Dominguez's retirement party-- -Mr. Dominguez was a top execuative at
Disneyland
for many years. I think the guests also recieved a Ron Dominguez elongated
penny-- -
-- --I obtained the bandana when I obtained the elongated penny.
Is anyone interested in trading some pennies for this bandana?
Thank you Al Smith

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) DL Machine changes and Villains
Date: 12 Oct 1997 22:59:08 -0400 (EDT)

To all list members and my 7th grade English teacher, Miss Sandra E. Beebe;

I have read my posts and apologize for my rpelling. %-)

-Bob Hoff

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyana show report
Date: 12 Oct 1997 22:58:52 -0400 (EDT)

Aahz wrote:

> Thanx for the show report Bob!
>
> On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 RobertHoff@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I arrived at 10:45 AM for the freebie admission at 11:00 AM. $10.00
would
> > get you in at 8:30. I found two maybe three people with ec's for sale.
> Most
>
> Out of about how many dealers?

100 + / -

>
> > had the same but smaller selection. Prices ranged around $1.00 for
cents
> and
> > $3.00 quarters that are currently available at Disneyland or WDW.
Retired
> > nickels (*IF* you got there before they were sold) $5.00 up to maybe
$10.
> 00
> > with the "seasonals" on the lower side and 40th Ann. etc. on the higher
> side.
>
> Prices seem fairly reasonable given the setting. Typically
> you're going to find modern/current elongates from coin dealers for
> around a buck. I could see $5 for the retired coins, though I'd rather
> pay less, these aren't going to be as common as long term machines that
> are now retired. $10 seems a bit high, but I might pay it for the 1995
> issues. Of course, at the moment my budget is $0, but these comments are
> 'in general'.
>
> > No CM issues found. Most did not even know what they are. Of course, I
> > checked for "Dalmations", none to be found.
>
> I should of thought of this before you went, but....
>
> You didn't happen to take a couple print outs of my DIsney
> catalog to provide the dealers did you? If you got any contact info from
> them we could forward 'em copies.

Oopps. No. %-( I could give copies next time out.
I did get contacts for the two dealers that had a selection of DL / WDW
coins.
I have e-mailed them today asking their ok to forward their addresses to
the list members. If not, I'm sure I can post the info from their business
cards.

>
> > My "big" purchase was a set of
> > 1996 Villains at $9.00. My daughter, Stasi, bought a set of 1995
> seasonals
> > for her set at $12.00 and my wife purchased some Disneyana coins for
her,
> > new, just started it today, set of Disneyana ec's. Had hoped to find
> trading
>
> Sounds like you got some good stuff for the whole family!

I've got to keep the sharks fed or they start looking at my ec's !

-Bob Hoff

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Knott's Berry Farm
Date: 12 Oct 1997 21:02:43 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

I need a favor. Can someone go by Kathy's Penny Page and send me
a description of four of her Knott's Berry Farm coins for me? I have a
non-graphical browser, so can't see 'em myself, but need the descriptions
for the KBF catalog.

The four I need are:

Calif. Marketplace
Inventors Workshop
Camp Snoopy
Mrs. Knott's

Thanx!

Aahz

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From: ENTROPYM@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Memorabilia (are you interested)
Date: 13 Oct 1997 01:00:13 -0400 (EDT)

Ron Dominguez was the last member of "Club 55", the original CMs in the park
when it opened on July 17, 1955. He worked his way up to an executive
position from a ride operator.
They had a huge turn-out for his last day. He sailed a keelboat full of
family and friends around the Rivers of America and was surprised when
hundreds of CMs lined the banks waving red bandanas. His "trademark" was the
red bandana. They retired to the Golden Horseshoe for a retirement party.

In a message dated 10/12/97 6:44:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, you write:

> It is my understanding that this bandana was an item that guests recieved
> at
> Mr.
> Dominguez's retirement party-- -Mr. Dominguez was a top execuative at
> Disneyland
> for many years. I think the guests also recieved a Ron Dominguez
elongated
> penny-- -
> -- --I obtained the bandana when I obtained the elongated penny.
> Is anyone interested in trading some pennies for this bandana?
> Thank you Al Smith

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyana show report
Date: 13 Oct 1997 10:20:45 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-13 01:03:24 EDT, you write:

> Oh how you make us here in the Arctic long for the warmth of California and

> its
> pennies at shows!!!! Rained here all day. Cold coming in. Means snow :(
>
> Flats
>

Hey! It's not that easy down here! How would you like to have to mow the
lawn
all year long!?

-Bob Hoff

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyana show report
Date: 13 Oct 1997 10:11:53 -0500

>
> Hey! It's not that easy down here! How would you like to have to mow the
> lawn
> all year long!?
>
> -Bob Hoff

Better than shoveling the driveway all year long.

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) DLT and New DL EC's
Date: 13 Oct 1997 11:38:22 -0400 (EDT)

Hi David!

I'm getting close to a deal for the DLT coins and believe that there are a
total of
9. Don't know what may have been added yet.

Also, I have rolled the new set of "Witches". Would you like me to send you
a set?

Happy Colleting,

-Bob Hoff

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From: Zarminator@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Sea World
Date: 13 Oct 1997 12:06:46 -0400 (EDT)

Hi, I am going to Sea World today to get the set. I am going to get 5 sets
to trade, please contact me if you are interested. I will post another letter
if I run out of sets.

Kelly

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From: Zarminator@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) New York
Date: 13 Oct 1997 12:20:44 -0400 (EDT)

Hi, My dear friend just came back from New York and has brought me some
pennies to trade:

1) Statue Liberty
2) EmpireState Building
3) World Trade Center

I have two sets that I am willing to trade. Please contact me.


Kelly

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Knott's Berry Farm
Date: 13 Oct 1997 12:23:23 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-13 00:06:03 EDT, you write:

> I need a favor. Can someone go by Kathy's Penny Page and send me
> a description of four of her Knott's Berry Farm coins for me? I have a
> non-graphical browser, so can't see 'em myself, but need the descriptions
> for the KBF catalog.
>
> The four I need are:
>
> Calif. Marketplace
Picture not available.

> Inventors Workshop
(H) solid oval boarder, "Knotts" small logo at top. "INVENTORS" over
"WORKSHOP"in smaller letters. Sorry can't make out the image
between the Knott's logo and the word inventors.

> Camp Snoopy
(H) solid oval boarder, "Knotts" small logo at top. "CAMP" over "SNOOPY"
with
looks like log-style letters.

> Mrs. Knott's
(H) Concentric solid boadered ovals, picture in center oval, can't make out
picture, could be a home with trees.

Hope it helps some. I can only get a low resolution image. :-(

-Bob Hoff

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Sea World
Date: 13 Oct 1997 12:28:49 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-13 12:08:48 EDT, you write:

> Hi, I am going to Sea World today to get the set. I am going to get 5 sets
> to trade, please contact me if you are interested. I will post another
> letter
> if I run out of sets.
>
> Kelly
>

Hi Kelly!

Please put me down for a set.

-Bob Hoff
TEC#2033

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) My new home address
Date: 13 Oct 1997 11:49:17 -0700

Since a couple of people have been asking for my home address, here it
is.

Jeff Dixon
2727 Edison Street #221
San Mateo, CA 94403

For the people I owe pennies to - I do have yours! :)

When I'm not working - I'm either unpacking or trying to spend a little
"adjustment period" time with my wife.

I didn't forget you all. :)

- Jeff

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Notes on Monterey, California
Date: 13 Oct 1997 11:27:51 -0700

It turns out the Canery Row Wax Museum had a penny machine two years
ago.
I don't have any details on what the design was.

Also, I have 99% certain that the otter penny machine and the sailor
machine are from the San Francisco Penny company.
Perhaps they could confirm the Wax Museum penny machine?

On the Leblanc Gallery, where the third penny exists, that's a really
neat store! Besides visiting the Eurolink machine, I highly
recommend people in the area to check it out.

I pressed extras of all three machines in the area on Saturday (just one
day before John Denver crashed into the same bay).

For the token lovers out there, in the overpass above the wax museum
building is a token machine. I tried to get one but the machine
was out of order. If people want more specific information, let me
know. I'm not a big token person - but I collect some from time to
time.

- Jeff

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catalogging: Universal Studios Hollywood
Date: 13 Oct 1997 15:03:19 -0700 (PDT)

Universal Studios Hollywood Catalog
Last Revised: 10/13/97

CA-USH-1 Logo
h. USH Marquee logo, "Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1988 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Very clean die, no noticeable imperfections

CA-USH-1a Logo
h. USH Marquee logo, "Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Imperfections around 'I' in Studios

CA-USH-1b Logo
h. USH Marquee logo, "Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Imperfections around bottom of 'y' make it look looped

CA-USH-2 Frankenstein's Monster
v. HS of Frankenstein, "(c) Universal Sity Studios
Inc./Frankenstein's Monster"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-3 Jaws - Straight
v. Shark's head w/ open mouth coming straight up out of water,
"Universal Studios/c Universal City Studios Inc."
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-3a Jaws - Straight
v. Shark's head w/ open mouth coming straight up out of water,
"Universal Studios/c Universal City Studios Inc."
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lines not as defined as CA-USH-3, most noticeable in
lettering; possibly a cast copy of CA-USH-3

CA-USH-4 Kongfrontation
h. Kong looking thru a tour bus he's holding, "Kongfrontation/
Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-5 King Kong
v. HS of Kong, "King Kong/Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1986 Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-6 Jaws - Angled
v. Shark w/ open mouth coming out of water at angle, "Jaws/
Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1986 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-7 Star Trek
h. ST logo surrounded by names, "Captain/Kirk/Mr./Spock/Dr./McCoy/
Star Trek/Scotty/Chekov/Uhura/Sulu"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-8 Star Trek Adventure
h. ST Adventure logo, "Paramount Pictures/Star Trek/Adventure/
Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-9 U.S.S. Enterprise
h. Enterprise on star field, "U.S.S./Enterprise"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: ??/??
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-10 Earthquake
h. Earthquake logo w/ 'cracks' opening between letters and in
background, "I Survived The Big One/Earthquake/Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-11 Woody - Split Text
v. FL Woody, "Woody/Woodpecker"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-11a Woody - Split Text
v. FL Woody, "Woody/Woodpecker"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: No apparent difference from CA-USH-11

CA-USH-12 Jaws - Angled - Small
h. Shark w/ open mouse coming out of water at slight angle, "Ja/ws"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: Willy Massey Engraver: Willy Massey

CA-USH-13 King Kong - Arms Up
v. King Kong w/ arms in front of head, "King Kong/Universal City
Studio Inc."
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: ??/??
Roller: Willy Massey Engraver: Willy Massey

CA-USH-14 Jurrasic Park - Flat
h. JP dino logo, "Jurrasic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1992 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: No noticeable bone structure on dinosaur

CA-USH-15 Bates Motel
v. House from Psycho, "Universal Studios Hollywood/Bates/Motel/No
Vacancy"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-16 Sword and Scorcery
v. Head and neck of fire breathing dragon, "Sword and Scorcery/
Universal Studios, Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: 'Sorcery' is misspelled on coin

CA-USH-17 Frankenstein
v. HS of Frankenstein, "Frankenstein/Universal Studios, Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1989 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-18 Feivel
v. Fievel w/ hat over one eye, "Feivel"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1986 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-19 Yabba-Dabba-Doo
v. Fred Flintstone, "Yabba-Dabba-Doo/Fred/Flintstone"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1991 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???

CA-USH-20 Jurassic Park - Semi-Flat
h. JP logo, "Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Dinosaur has some texture to it, still no bones

CA-USH-21 Back/Future-Textured
h. BttF logo, Delorean, "Back/To/The/Future/Universal Studios,
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lettering in BttF logo is textured

CA-USH-22 Backdraft-Textured
h. Backdraft logo, "Universal Studios/Backdraft/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lettering in logo is textured

CA-USH-23 ET Finger Touch - 3D
v. ET and Elliot's hands, fingers touching with glow, "E.T."
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1991 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Both hands are three dimensional

CA-USH-24 ET/USH Logo - Small 3D
h. USH marquee logo w/ ET's head and hands coming over top,
"Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1991 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Hands are three dimensional

CA-USH-25 ET Moon & Bike - Textured
v. Bike w/ Elliot and ET in front of moon, trees beneath, "ET"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Trees are textured

CA-USH-26 Casper
v. Casper, "Casper/Universal Studios Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-27 Cartoon Studios
h. Globe, Cartoon airplane, "Universal/Cartoon Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-28 Rocky & Bullwinkle
v. Rocky and Bullwinkle, "Bullwinkle/Rocket/J. Squirrel/Universal/
Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-29 Chilly Willy
v. Chilly Willy, "Chilly Willy/Universal Studios Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-30 Betty Boop
v. Betty Boop sitting on logo, "Universal Studios/Betty/Boop/
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-31 Universal Studios - Earth
v. Earth, cartoonish plane, stars and clapboard, "Universal/
Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-32 Beethoven
v. HS of Beethoven, "Universal Studios/Beethoven"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-33 Woody Woodpecker
v. Woody Woodpecker, "Woody Woodpecker"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-34 Escape Reality
h. Earth, "Escape Reality/Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Notes: Complete second 'E' in Escape visible

CA-USH-34a Escape Reality
h. Earth, "Escape Reality/Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Notes: Top of second 'E' in Escape obscured by dot

CA-USH-34b Escape Reality
h. Earth, "Escape Reality/Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Notes: Top of second 'E' in Escape and 'D' in Hollywood obscured by
dots

CA-USH-35 Lost World
h. LW logo, "The Lost World/Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-35a Lost World
h. LW logo, "The Lost World/Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Note: No noticeable difference from CA-USH-35

CA-USH-35b Lost World
h. LW logo, "The Lost World/Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Note: No noticeable difference from CA-USH-35

CA-USH-36 ET/USH Logo
h. USH marquee logo w/ ET head and hands coming over top,
"Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-37 Theater Marquee
h. Old style theater marquee, "Studios/Universal/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-37a Theater Marquee
h. Old style theater marquee, "Studios/Universal/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Note: No Noticeable difference from CA-USH-37

CA-USH-37b Theater Marquee
h. Old style theater marquee, "Studios/Universal/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Note: No noticeable difference from CA-USH-37

CA-USH-38 Back to the Future-Flat
h. BttF logo, Delorean, "Back/To/The/Future/Universal Studios,
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lettering in BttF logo is flat

CA-USH-39 Backdraft - Flat
h. Backdraft logo, "Universal Studios/Backdraft/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Lettering in logo is textured

CA-USH-40 JP - Fully Boned
h. JP logo, "Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Bones in dinosaur fully realized

CA-USH-40a JP - Fully Boned
h. JP logo, "Jurassic Park"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Bones in dinosaur fully realized, no noticeable difference
from CA-USH-40

CA-USH-41 Totally Nickelodeon
h. Nickelodeon splash, "Universal/Studios/Totally/Nickelodeon/
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-42 Rugrats
h. Rugrats logo, "Universal Studios/Rugrats/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-43 Angelica
h. Angelica, "Universal/Studios/Angelica/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-44 ET Moon & Bike - Flat
v. Bike w/ Elliot and ET in front of moon, trees beneath, "ET"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Trees are totally flat

CA-USH-45 ET/USH Logo - Small Flat
h. USH marquee logo w/ ET's head and hands coming over top,
"Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Hands are flat

CA-USH-46 ET Finger Touch - Flat
v. ET and Elliot's hands, fingers touching with glow, "E.T."
Border: Dotted
Installed: ??/?? Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: ???
Notes: Both hands are flat

CA-USH-47 Universal Jurrassic Park
h. T-rex bones, brontosaurus, "Universal/Studios/Jurassic
Park/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-48 I Survived Jurassic Park
v. JP logo, "I Survived/Jurassic Park/The/Ride/Universal/Studios/
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1996 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-48a I Survived Jurassic Park
v. JP logo, "I Survived/Jurassic Park/The/Ride/Universal/Studios/
Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1996 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon
Note: No noticeable difference from CA-USH-48

CA-USH-49 Jurassic Park - USH
h. JP logo, "Jurassic Park/Universal Studios/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-50 Jurassic Park T-Rex - h.
h. Running T-Rex, "Jurassic/Park/T-Rex/Universal Studios Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-51 Jurassic Park T-Rex - v.
v. Standing T-rex, "Jurassic/Park/T-Rex/Hollywood"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

CA-USH-52 Jurassic Park Raptor
h. Raptor, "Raptor/Jurassic Park/Universal Studios"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 1997 Removed: CA
Roller: ??? Engraver: Jim Dundon

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Notes on Monterey, California
Date: 13 Oct 1997 15:05:52 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Dixon, Jeff wrote:

> It turns out the Canery Row Wax Museum had a penny machine two years
> ago.
> I don't have any details on what the design was.

Hmmm....Does anyone know if this Wax Museum is owned by the same
company that owns the Hollywood and San Francisco Wax Museums? Perhaps a
letter to this company is in order.

> Also, I have 99% certain that the otter penny machine and the sailor
> machine are from the San Francisco Penny company.

I'm 100% certain on this. SFPMC even sent me a freebie of one of
these.

> For the token lovers out there, in the overpass above the wax museum
> building is a token machine. I tried to get one but the machine
> was out of order. If people want more specific information, let me
> know. I'm not a big token person - but I collect some from time to
> time.

Thanks for the tip! I'll be checking this out on my next trip down.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Locations: Universal Studios Hollywood
Date: 13 Oct 1997 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT)

Machine Locations at Universal Studios Hollywood
Compiled by Nikki Langness and Chris Aahz

Universal Studios Store -
A) CA-USH-34 Escape Reality
B) CA-USH-35 Lost World
C) CA-USH-36 ET/USH Logo
D) CA-USH-37 Theater Marquee

Emporium -
Front Door -
A) CA-USH-26 Casper
B) CA-USH-27 Cartoon Studios
C) CA-USH-28 Rocky & Bullwinkle
D) CA-USH-29 Chilly Willy

Back Door -
A) CA-USH-30 Betty Boop
B) CA-USH-31 Universal Studios - Earth
C) CA-USH-32 Beethoven
D) CA-USH-33 Woody

Universal Ranch -
A) CA-USH-15 Bates Motel
B) CA-USH-16 Sword and Scorcery
C) CA-USH-17 Frankenstein

Nickelodeon Store -
A) CA-USH-41 Totally Nickelodeon
B) CA-USH-42 Rugrats
C) CA-USH-43 Angelica
D) CA-USH-37a Theater Marquee

Land Before Time Midway -
Machine 1 -
A) CA-USH-6 Jaws - Angled

Machine 2 -
A) CA-USH-10 Earthquake

Machine 3 -
A) CA-USH-11 Woody - Split Text

Machine 4 -
A) CA-USH-1a Logo

Time Traveler's Depot -
A) CA-USH-38 Back to the Future-Flat
B) CA-USH-39 Backdraft - Flat
C) CA-USH-40 JP - Fully Boned
D) CA-USH-1b Logo

Silver Screen Collectibles -
Machine 1 -
A) CA-USH-20 Jurassic Park - Semi-Flat
B) CA-USH-21 Back/Future - Textured
C) CA-USH-22 Backdraft - Textured

Machine 2 -
A) CA-USH-18 Feivel
B) CA-USH-11a Woody - Split Text
C) CA-USH-19 Yabba-Dabba-Doo

Universal Athletic Club
Machine 1 -
A) CA-USH-1 Logo

Machine 2 -
A) CA-USH-14 Jurassic Park - Flat

Take One -
A) CA-USH-23 ET Finger Touch 3D
B) CA-USH-24 ET/USH Logo - Small 3D
C) CA-USH-25 ET Moon & Bike - Textured

ET's Toy Closet -
A) CA-USH-40a JP - Fully Boned
B) CA-USH-44 ET Moon & Bike - Flat
C) CA-USH-45 ET/USH Logo - Small Flat
D) CA-USH-46 ET Finger Touch - Flat

Jurassic Outfitters -
Machine 1 -
A) CA-USH-35a Lost World
B) CA-USH-47 Universal Jurassic Park
C) CA-USH-34a Escape Reality
D) CA-USH-48 I Survived Jurassic Park

Machine 2 -
A) CA-USH-48a I Survived Jurassic Park
B) CA-USH-49 Jurassic Park - USH
C) CA-USH-50 Jurassic Park T-Rex - h.
D) CA-USH-34b Escape Reality

Machine 3 -
A) CA-USH-35b Lost World
B) CA-USH-51 Jurassic Park T-Rex - v.
C) CA-USH-52 Jurassic Park Raptor
D) CA-USH-37b Theater Marquee

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Memorabilia (are you interested)
Date: 13 Oct 1997 11:20:02 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 ENTROPYM@aol.com wrote:

> They had a huge turn-out for his last day. He sailed a keelboat full of
>
> > It is my understanding that this bandana was an item that guests recieved
> > at Mr. Dominguez's retirement party-- -

Okay, I'm confused again. Hopefuly one of our Disneyphiles can
help me out. I had been given the impression that the Ron Dominguez coin
was issued at Team Disney Administration during the 1995 Open House. If
it was issued along with the bandana at his "farewell pary" then it would
seem that it was actually handed outat the park itself in August of 1995
(that's the date on the bandana).

Can anyone clarify this for me?

Peace,

Aahz

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Information request on two recently picked up ECs
Date: 13 Oct 1997 11:32:31 -0700

Hi everybody,

I picked up two elongates from a coin shop in Monterey, CA this weekend.

One is a picture of the statue Bert described on the Hawaii elongates
list.

The other was is of Jaws. I'm curious if both are current issues. The
Hawaii one looks especially old, with a hole
punched on the top.

The Jaws elongate is vertical with a "straight-on" view of Jaws.

Thanks,

- Jeff

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@eahq-exchange.ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Person who collected old video games?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:02:47 -0500

Hi everybody,

There was a person on the list that collects old video games. Is that
person still on the list?

Or, does someone have his e-mail address? I'm looking for an old
Commodore 64 video game.

Thanks,

- Jeff

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Sea World
Date: 13 Oct 1997 13:15:31 -0500

Zarminator@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi, I am going to Sea World today to get the set. I am going to get 5 sets
> to trade, please contact me if you are interested. I will post another letter
> if I run out of sets.
>
> Kelly

I am interested!!!

Janelle

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From: MarxenSEM@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Auction
Date: 13 Oct 1997 20:18:03 -0400 (EDT)

When do you plan to hold the auction again? I plan to send you a set of 9
pennies from Cedar Point ("America's Roller Coast") in Sandusky, OH. And
some Cheif Wahoo pennies from Parmatown Mall. Go Tribe!!!!!

Anyone wanting to trade for the CP set or the Chief rather than wait to bid
on them, let me know.

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Auction
Date: 13 Oct 1997 19:54:21 -0500

MarxenSEM@aol.com wrote:
>
> When do you plan to hold the auction again? I plan to send you a set of 9
> pennies from Cedar Point ("America's Roller Coast") in Sandusky, OH. And
> some Cheif Wahoo pennies from Parmatown Mall. Go Tribe!!!!!
>
> Anyone wanting to trade for the CP set or the Chief rather than wait to bid
> on them, let me know.

I would like a set from Cedar Point. Thanks.

Janelle

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Auction
Date: 13 Oct 1997 17:59:33 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 MarxenSEM@aol.com wrote:

>
> When do you plan to hold the auction again? I plan to send you a set of 9
> pennies from Cedar Point ("America's Roller Coast") in Sandusky, OH. And
> some Cheif Wahoo pennies from Parmatown Mall. Go Tribe!!!!!

The auction will be held after I move (early November). Items
being mailed to my current address in San Jose, need to be mailed so as
to arrive before Halloween.

And Thanx!

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) "Mule"?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:01:49 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

I've been going through some listings by Doug Fairbanks and
noticed that he uses the term "Mule" to describe several issues. Anyone
know what he means by this?

Peace,

Aahz

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Auction
Date: 13 Oct 1997 21:11:46 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-13 21:03:38 EDT, you write:

> The auction will be held after I move (early November). Items
> being mailed to my current address in San Jose, need to be mailed so as
> to arrive before Halloween.

Hmmmm sounds like a Vampire thing. :-)

-Bob Hoff

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Notes on Monterey, California
Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:47:11 -0700

Dixon, Jeff wrote:

> I pressed extras of all three machines in the area on Saturday
> (just one
> day before John Denver crashed into the same bay).
>

Jeff,

We seem to live in a vast news wasteland! What happened to John
Denver?????

Nancy

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Notes on Monterey, California
Date: 13 Oct 1997 20:50:19 -0500

John & Nancy Wooten wrote:
>
> Dixon, Jeff wrote:
>
> > I pressed extras of all three machines in the area on Saturday
> > (just one
> > day before John Denver crashed into the same bay).
> >
>
> Jeff,
>
> We seem to live in a vast news wasteland! What happened to John
> Denver?????
>
> Nancy

Plane crash last night. Dead.

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Catlogging: WDW 25th Anniversary
Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:55:06 -0700 (PDT)

Walt Disney World 25th Anniversary Catalog
Last Revised: 10/13/97

DIS-WDW25-1 Minnie Quarter
v. Minnie Mouse under logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Morse
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-2 Simba Quarter
v. Simba lying on rock over logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Dotted
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-3 Genie Quarter
v. Aladdin's Genie 'coming out' of logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Beaded
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-4 Ariel Quarter
v. Ariel sitting on logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Zigzag
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-5 Sorcerer Mickey Quarter
v. Sorcerer Mickey below logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Custom
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-6 Dopey Quarter
v. Dopey over logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Zigzag
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-7 Lumiere Quarter
v. Lumiere under logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Long Beads
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-8 Donald Quarter
v. Donald under logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Wire
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-9 Goofy Quarter
v. Goofy leaning on logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Custom
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-10 Quasimodo Quarter
v. Quasimodo holding shield w/ logo on it, "1996/2/5"
Border: Beaded
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-11 Tinkerbell Quarter
v. Tinkerbell flying above logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Diamonds
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-12 Pocahontas Quarter
v. Pocahontas leaning on shield w/ logo on it, "1996/2/5"
Border: Custom
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA

DIS-WDW25-13 Mickey w/ Stars Quarter
v. Sorcerer Mickey, stars surrounding logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Rope
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Note: Machine at Mickey's of Hollywood

DIS-WDW25-13a Mickey w/ Stars Quarter
v. Sorcerer Mickey, stars surrounding logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Rope
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Note: Machine at Mickey's Gift Station

DIS-WDW25-13b Mickey w/ Stars Quarter
v. Sorcerer Mickey, stars surrounding logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Rope
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Note: Machine at Frontierland Shooting Gallery

DIS-WDW25-13c Mickey w/ Stars Quarter
v. Sorcerer Mickey, stars surrounding logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Rope
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Note: Machine at Fantasy Fare

DIS-WDW25-13d Mickey w/ Stars Quarter
v. Sorcerer Mickey, stars surrounding logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Rope
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Note: Machine at Tomorrowland Light & Power Arcade

DIS-WDW25-13e Mickey w/ Stars Quarter
v. Sorcerer Mickey, stars surrounding logo, "1996/2/5"
Border: Rope
Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Note: Machine at Mickey's Star Traders

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catlogging: WDW 25th Anniversary
Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:59:22 -0700 (PDT)

> Walt Disney World 25th Anniversary Catalog
> Last Revised: 10/13/97

Okay, I need a little help with these. First, I need names for
the borders on the following coins:

> DIS-WDW25-5 Sorcerer Mickey Quarter
> v. Sorcerer Mickey below logo, "1996/2/5"
> Border: Custom
> Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
>
> DIS-WDW25-9 Goofy Quarter
> v. Goofy leaning on logo, "1996/2/5"
> Border: Custom
> Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
>
> DIS-WDW25-12 Pocahontas Quarter
> v. Pocahontas leaning on shield w/ logo on it, "1996/2/5"
> Border: Custom
> Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
>

Also, does anyone have examples of DIS-WDW25-13 that they KNOW
which machine they came from? I'd like to compare some of these to
discover if there are any differences.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: ENTROPYM@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) "Mule"?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 22:02:27 -0400 (EDT)

Howard explained that it is a coin with a pressing on the reverse side. The
Santa Cruz Beach and Boardwalk is an example.
BTW, I just happen to have three available for three people who would like to
see it for themselves.

Mickey.

In a message dated 10/13/97 6:06:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, you write:

> Greetings & Salutations!
>
> I've been going through some listings by Doug Fairbanks and
> noticed that he uses the term "Mule" to describe several issues. Anyone
> know what he means by this?
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>

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From: BLMC <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Auction
Date: 13 Oct 1997 21:51:52 -0400

R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 97-10-13 21:03:38 EDT, you write:
>
> > The auction will be held after I move (early November). Items
> > being mailed to my current address in San Jose, need to be mailed so as
> > to arrive before Halloween.
>
> Hmmmm sounds like a Vampire thing. :-)
>
> -Bob Hoff

THIS is a vampire thing :-= (Fangs... get it?)

Ben

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Notes on Monterey, California
Date: 13 Oct 1997 19:38:09 -0700

James Henry wrote:

> John & Nancy Wooten wrote:
> >
> > Dixon, Jeff wrote:
> >
> > > I pressed extras of all three machines in the area on Saturday
>
> > > (just one
> > > day before John Denver crashed into the same bay).
> > >
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > We seem to live in a vast news wasteland! What happened to John
>
> > Denver?????
> >
> > Nancy
>
> Plane crash last night. Dead.

Would you believe I just went into the other room to tell my
husband, and during halftime of the football game they came on and
promised to tell about it at 11:00 p.m. tonight. I can't believe
how long it takes to get news from somewhere only a few hours
away!!!!!

Nancy

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From: AlinCal2@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Trades (Is anyone interested)?
Date: 14 Oct 1997 00:08:00 -0400 (EDT)

Elongates for trade (Is anyone interested)

Royal order of Jesters
Vigo county court house -built 1885 (two of these)
Markle house -built 1884 (two of these)
Fenton ,Michigan--Depot bldg.
Fenton,Michigan--seminary bldg.
Bethesda-1834-1984-dome shaped structure in the center of the elongate
Terra haute house-built--1880--7th and Wabash
1992--North Dakota-vote republican-elephant on elongate
Philidelphia 76 er's-- -rokund ball in center of elongate 1991--1992
Fashion cafe (merry go round)
Philideliphia # 1 fan--(sixers flyers)
King Louie
Peoria Chiefs--1992 class A--Indian head in center of the elongate
Indian head at top of the elongate --something that looks like a dream
catcher at the bottom of the elongate
Psittacosaurus Dino.--picture of Dino. skeleton on the elongate

Look these over-- -if you see something interesting --lets talk --maybe you
have something I would like to trade for.
Thank you Al Smith

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) "Mule"?
Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:19:51 -0700

It's an old cranky coin that's a pain in the *ss.

Just had to be said...

- Jeff

>-- ---Original Message-- ---
>From: Chris Aahz [SMTP:aahz@svpal.org]
>Sent: Monday, October 13, 1997 6:02 PM
>To: Elongates Mail List
>Subject: (elongates) "Mule"?
>
>Greetings & Salutations!
>
> I've been going through some listings by Doug Fairbanks and
>noticed that he uses the term "Mule" to describe several issues. Anyone
>know what he means by this?
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
>
>

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) Auction
Date: 13 Oct 1997 19:14:00 -0700

Oh boy.
>THIS is a vampire thing :-= (Fangs... get it?)
>

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: RE: (elongates) Catlogging: WDW 25th Anniversary
Date: 13 Oct 1997 19:03:51 -0700

Are the DIS-WDW25-13 issues all identical?

- Jeff

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: RE: (elongates) Catlogging: WDW 25th Anniversary
Date: 13 Oct 1997 21:25:50 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Dixon, Jeff wrote:

> Are the DIS-WDW25-13 issues all identical?

They all have the same general design, but it is VERY rare for
two seperate dies to be absolutely identical. That's why I need to know
if anyone knows what machine their coin came from. So I can compare 'em
and find out what, if any, variations exist amongst them.

Peace,

Aahz

BTW, If anyone does not have the WDW25 set, a set of the first 12 will be
in the auction.

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) (off-topic) John Denver died yesterday
Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:55:59 -0700

John Denver yesterday died when his plane crashed into Monterey Bay.
Noone else was on board.

Pretty spooky.

- Jeff

>

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Elongated coins (fwd)
Date: 14 Oct 1997 01:58:54 -0700 (PDT)

I'm forwarding this message to the list in case any of you are
interested. If so, please contact him DIRECTLY as he is not a member of
the list.

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I just discovered your list I have some elongated coins and I also believe
that I may have a couple catalogs somewhere I have Danny Crabbs set or most
of them--on cents and silver dimesfor jim beam whiskey bottles issued i
believe in the 60s or early 70s before Danny died I also have some 19000
foreign coins in 2x2's labeled and identified I am thinking os selling now
that I am a bit over 70 I will accept wants lists with SASE so we can
advise of prices I am

David F Boeshaar P O Box 3455 Simi Valley CA 93093-3455

and e-mail dfboeshaar@aol.com if you or anyone is interested

dfb

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catlogging: WDW 25th Anniversary
Date: 14 Oct 1997 13:11:00 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-14 08:41:44 EDT, you write:

> Okay, I need a little help with these. First, I need names for
> the borders on the following coins:
>
> > DIS-WDW25-5 Sorcerer Mickey Quarter
> > v. Sorcerer Mickey below logo, "1996/2/5"
> > Border: Custom
> > Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Single, thin, continuous line of connected half circles open
to the inside running around the outside edge.

> >
> > DIS-WDW25-9 Goofy Quarter
> > v. Goofy leaning on logo, "1996/2/5"
> > Border: Custom
> > Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Two very thin lines about 1/32 of an inch apart making
a "railroad track" around the outside edge with a very thin l
ine zig zaging from side to side with soft turns? :-)
> >
> > DIS-WDW25-12 Pocahontas Quarter
> > v. Pocahontas leaning on shield w/ logo on it, "1996/2/5"
> > Border: Custom
> > Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Solid, thin line with parallel, thin, zig zag line on the inside track
around the outside edge.

Sorry, discriptions aren't my strong point. :-(

-Bob Hoff

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catlogging: WDW 25th Anniversary
Date: 14 Oct 1997 13:29:41 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-14 08:41:44 EDT, you write:

> Okay, I need a little help with these. First, I need names for
> the borders on the following coins:
>
> > DIS-WDW25-5 Sorcerer Mickey Quarter
> > v. Sorcerer Mickey below logo, "1996/2/5"
> > Border: Custom
> > Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Single, thin, continuous line of connected half circles open
to the inside running around the outside edge.

> >
> > DIS-WDW25-9 Goofy Quarter
> > v. Goofy leaning on logo, "1996/2/5"
> > Border: Custom
> > Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Two very thin lines about 1/32 of an inch apart making
a "railroad track" around the outside edge with a very thin l
ine zig zaging from side to side with soft turns? :-)
> >
> > DIS-WDW25-12 Pocahontas Quarter
> > v. Pocahontas leaning on shield w/ logo on it, "1996/2/5"
> > Border: Custom
> > Installed: 10/96 Removed: CA
Solid, thin line with parallel, thin, zig zag line on the inside track
around the outside edge.

Sorry, discriptions aren't my strong point. :-(

-Bob Hoff

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From: "Doug Rukavina" <Doug_Rukavina@studio.disney.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) LA Zoo penni
Date: 14 Oct 1997 09:55:08 -0700

RE>(elongates) LA Zoo pennies 10/14/97

FLats

I d love to get you the animals

if no one else has already offered

I would like a set of the 16 available. I could trade 18 from the MN
Zoo if anyone is interested. Thanks.

Flats

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Is Suz still on the list?
Date: 14 Oct 1997 10:46:17 -0700

I don't have Suz's e-mail address/home address right now. Can someone
send it to me? I'm still weeding through past e-mails and
getting reorganized.

- Jeff

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Information request on two recently picked up ECs
Date: 14 Oct 1997 10:51:50 -0700

On 10/13/97 11:32 AM Dixon, Jeff (JDixon@ea.com ) wrote

>One is a picture of the statue Bert described on the Hawaii elongates
>list.
>
>The other was is of Jaws. I'm curious if both are current issues. The
>Hawaii one looks especially old, with a hole
>punched on the top.

Aloha,

The statue coin is not a current coin. The dealer (in Hawaii) I got mine
from said they were very limited edition, but he didn't remember
where/when they were produced.

Eurolink did send a machine to Hawaii some years back for a promotion. I
wonder if this machine was the one that produced the statue coin? None of
the current machines I have used in Hawaii are Eurolink...

bc

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) NJ: Turnpike update
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:02:49 -0700

Ok. Here we go:
(H= Horizontal, V= Vertical)

1. Vince Lombardi Rest Stop (has Title 331:18 posted)
Handcrank machine
A. H- American Flag + Ribbon "Proud to be an American"
B. V- Statue of Liberty head "Statue of Liberty"
C. V- "You are very special to me" (in hearts)
D. V- "Good luck penny" (clover top - horseshoe bottom)
Company contact number posted:
NJ: (201) 928-4239
NY: (212) 799-0016

2. Alexander Hamilton Rest Stop (has Title 331:18 posted)
Handcrank machine
A. H- American Flag + Ribbon "Proud to be an American"
B. V- Picture of full statue "Statue of Liberty" (top) "New York
1886-1986" (bottom)
C. H- Picture of NY skyline "World Trade Center" (top) "New York"
(bottom)
D. V- Picture of the ES building "The Empire State" (top) "New York"
(bottom)

Posted name of company:
One Cent Productions
"We Make Cents."
P.O. Box 1596
South Hackensack, NJ 07601

3. Joyce Kilmer Rest Stop (has Title 331:18 posted)
Handcrank machine
A. V- "My lucky penny" (clover top - clover bottom)
B. V- "Lord's Prayer"
C. V- Picture of a unicorn standing up on hind legs
D. V- "I Love You" w/dotted border

4. Thomas Edison Rest Stop (has Title 331:18 posted)
Handcrank machine
A. V- "XXX Good for a hug and a kiss anytime -- anywhere OOO"
B. V- "Good luck penny" (clover top - horseshoe bottom)
C. H- American Flag + Ribbon "Proud to be an American"
D. V- Statue of Liberty head "Statue of Liberty"

5. Molly Pitcher Rest Stop (has Title 331:18 posted)
Handcrank machine
A. V- "XXX Good for a hug and a kiss anytime -- anywhere OOO"
B. V- "Lord's Prayer"
C. V- Picture of full statue "Statue of Liberty" (top) "New York
1886-1986" (bottom)
D. V- "My lucky penny" (clover top - horseshoe+clover bottom)

6. Richard Stockton Rest Stop (has Title 331:18 posted)
Handcrank machine
A. V- "Lord's Prayer"
B. V- "I Love You" w/dotted border
C. V- "My lucky penny" (clover top - horseshoe+clover bottom)
D. V- Unicorn head

7. Woodrow Wilson Rest Stop (has Title 331:18 posted)
Handcrank machine
A. V- Statue of Liberty head "Statue of Liberty"
B. H- American Flag + Ribbon "Proud to be an American"
C. V- "Good luck penny" (clover top - horseshoe bottom)
D. V- "You are very special to me" (in hearts)

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Is Suz still on the list?
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:08:01 -0700

On 10/14/97 10:46 AM Dixon, Jeff (JDixon@ea.com ) wrote

>
>I don't have Suz's e-mail address/home address right now. Can someone
>send it to me? I'm still weeding through past e-mails and
>getting reorganized.
>
>- Jeff

Is this the one you need:

Suzanne Oberly, soberly@lehman.com

Bert

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Location Update: Topeka Zoo
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:10:49 -0700

I'm mainly correcting information about the order.

Topeka Zoo

Animals and Man Building (has posted 331:18)
1.Handcrank machine
A) V-picture of a rattle snake "Topeka Zoo"
B) V-picture of a bear "Topeka Zoo"
C) H-picture of a kangaroo "Topeka Zoo"
D) V-picture of a elephant "Topeka Zoo"

Obverse - left (always)

Manufacturer information:
Uncommon cents

2.Discovering Apes Building
A) V-picture of a giraffe "Topeka Zoo"
B) H-picture of an eagle "Topeka Zoo"
C) V-picture of an ape "Topeka Zoo"
D) V-picture of a lion "Topeka Zoo"

Manufacturer information:
Uncommon cents

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Location update: Ft. Worth zoo
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:12:12 -0700

Penny Works informed me that the Triceritops and the Cantasaurus pennies
at the Forth Worth Zoo were made by them.

- Jeff

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Location update: Vermont
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:13:35 -0700

Burlington, Vermont

Lake Champlain Science Center
1. H- picture of a painted turtle (text and border unknown)

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Location update: Massachusetts
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:14:39 -0700

Penny works also informed me that a hand crank machine was at the Stone
Zoo in Stoneham, MA before Eurolink's machine arrived.

No information on the penny available.

Manufacturer was Uncommon Cents

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catlogging: WDW 25th Anniversary
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:21:41 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 97-10-14 08:41:44 EDT, you write:
>
> > Okay, I need a little help with these. First, I need names for
> > the borders on the following coins:
>
> Sorry, discriptions aren't my strong point. :-(

Thanx for the effort, Bob, but what I'm actually looking for are
short one or two word names that I can slip into the catalog instead of
using 'custom'.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Location Update: NY
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:31:16 -0700

1. Patternsonville, NY on Rt 90
Rest Stop (between exists 28 and 27 westbound)
Handcrank machine
A. V- Lord's Prayer
B. V- "You are very special to me" (heart looked a bit wacky - hard to
describe)
C. H- "Good for a hug and a kiss" (hearts to left and O's to the right)
D. V- "My lucky penny" (clover on top and bottom)

Company information
Farr Scale Co.
417 W. Main Street
Hummelstown, PN 17036
(717) 566-9449

2. Iriquois Rest Stop on Rt 90
Handcrank machine
A. V- Lord's Prayer
B. V- "My lucky penny" (clover on top and bottom)
C. V- "I love you" dotted border
D. H- picture of a brontosaurus "Brontasaurus"

3. Chittenango Travel Plaza on Rt 90
Handcrank machine
A. V- Lord's Prayer
B. V- "My lucky penny" (clover on top and bottom)
C. V- "I love you" dotted border
D. H- picture of a stegasaurus "Stegasaurus"
E. ?- (fake on box) (half-pressed design) "result of not lining up
arrows"

Note: Machine was jammed on 9/20?/97.
The pile of previous attempts inside the machine was so great I took a
picture.
It should be pretty funny to see - once I get it developed.

4. Junius Ponds Travel 90 Plaza
Handcrank machine
A. V- Lord's Prayer
B. V- "My lucky penny" (clover on top and bottom)
C. V- picture of a unicorn head with sparks coming off of it "Lucky
Unicorn Head"
! D. V- "I love you" hearts border instead of dots.

Note: Only pressed one of D. Haven't seen the penny anywhere else.

5. Seneca Rest Stop on Rt 90
Handcrank machine
A. V- Lord's Prayer
B. V- "I love you" dotted border
C. V- "My lucky penny" (clover on top and bottom)
D. V- picture of a chained unicorn

6. Clarence Rest Stop on Rt 90
Handcrank machine
A. V- Lord's Prayer
B. H- "Good for a hug and a kiss" (XXX OOO)
C. H- picture of the american falls "Niagara Falls"
D. V- "I love you" dotted border and cursive "I"

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Location update: Missouri
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:40:25 -0700

1. Stuckey's/ Dairy Queen
Exit 216
Didn't stop - but almost positive there is a Eurolink machine there.

Rt 70W near Columbia MO (exit around 125) intersection with route "J-DD"
(trust me that's right)
2. Stuckey's/ Dairy Queen
3054 State Rd. J
Columbia, MO 65201
Phone: 1-314-474-5833
FAX: 1-314-474-6890
Owner: J. A. Cook (ok - that's a bit extreme - I got a business card)

A. V-picture of a windmill "Kansas"

Manufacturer: Eurolink

3. Stuckey's/ Dairy Queen
Exit 85
A. V- picture of missouri state with a wheat in the center "Missouri"
(top) "Show me state" (bottom)

Manufacturer: Eurolink

The owner told me that every branch had a deal with Eurolink. Whether
there always was a machine or not,
he didn't know. It sounds like an exclusive deal was reached with the
chain.

Side note - there is one branch in Colorado off route-80 in the NE
corner of the state. I didn't check that one out.

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Location update: Franklin Park Zoo, MA
Date: 14 Oct 1997 11:42:56 -0700

Franklin Park Zoo
1. H- picture of a striped-relief zebra "Franklin Park Zoo"
2. V- picture of a lion "Franklin Park Zoo"
3. V- picture of a gorilla "Franklin Park Zoo"

Manufacturer: Eurolink

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) (long) Trade List
Date: 14 Oct 1997 12:20:35 -0700

Jeff Dixon's Trading List
jdixon@ea.com

(X) means I have X available
(X) (Y) means I have X available in copper, Y available on steel
* means I'll take requests
D means double-sided

-- --- --- - Massachusetts -- --- --- -
Stone Zoo:
Flamingo (5)
Bear (2)
Sea Otter (3)

Franklin Park Zoo:
Zebra (5)
Lion (4)
Gorilla (3)

Boston Aquarium
Penguin (14)

Boston Museum of Science:
Planets (15)
Planetarium (10) (1 - tested a dime)

Boston Whale Watch (2 zinc) - my non-trading piece is also zinc

"Children's Museum" Bottle (9)

-- --- --- - New York -- --- --- -
My lucky penny (2 clovers) (2)
Good for a hug and a kiss (heart in middle XXX & OOO on either side) (3)
Unicorn head (4) (1)
Chained Unicorn (4) (2)
Brontosaurus (5) (1)
"I love you" (cursive "I") (2)

"Niagara Falls" (6) (1)
"American Falls", "Niagara Falls, NY" (7) (1)
"American Falls at Niagara" (1) - sorry, ran out of quarters
"You are very special to me" (2)
"Niagara Falls, NY" (dime) (5)
"Canadian Falls" "at Niagara" (1) - sorry, ran out of quarters

-- --- --- - California -- --- --- -
San Francisco:
Trolley quarter (1) *
Coit Tower (2) *

Santa Cruz:
Boat (5) (1) *

Monterey
Tree (5) *
Sea Otter (4) *
Sailor (4) *

-- --- --- - Illinois -- --- --- -
Lincoln's New Salem (3)
Lincoln's Tomb (1)

-- --- --- - Indiana -- --- --- -
"Indiana Farmers Feed the World" picture of a tractor (3) (1)

-- --- --- - Missouri -- --- --- -
St. Louis:
Lacede's Landing, St. Louis -double dot border- (6)
St. Louis Science Center (1)
"My Lucky Penny" "St. Louis, Mo" (2)
Picture of the arch "St. Louis Gateway" (2)
St. Louis Arch (4)
"St. Louis Gateway to arch"/ "My Lucky Penny" D (4)
Union Station:
"St. Louis Union Station" (station picture) (3)
"St. Louis Union Station" (train picture) (3)
"Missouri" "Show me State" state picture(4)

-- --- --- - Kansas-- --- --- -
Windmill "Kansas" (3)
"Home on the Range" "Kansas" (7) (1)
"Kansas" picture of state with wheat (4) (1)

Topeka Zoo:
1. Snake (2)
2. Elephant (1)
3. Tiger 2)
4. Lion (2)
5. Monkey (2)
6. Giraffe (2)
7. Kangaroo (2)
8. Eagle (2)

-- --- --- - Colorado -- --- --- -
Garden of the Gods:
I love you Colorado (3)
Person with eagle wings (2)
Balanced Rock (4)

Garden of the Gods Visitor Center:
picture + text "Balanced Rock"/ "Garden of the Gods Visitor Center"
D (3)
picture + text "Magpie" /"Garden of the Gods Visitor Center" D (5)

-- --- --- - Other -- --- --- -
Shamu (1 zinc)

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Catlogging: WDW 25th Anniversary
Date: 14 Oct 1997 15:26:04 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-14 14:25:35 EDT, you write:

> Thanx for the effort, Bob, but what I'm actually looking for are
> short one or two word names that I can slip into the catalog instead of
> using 'custom'.
>

Squiggily-double-track? :-)

-Bob

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From: "Dixon, Jeff" <JDixon@ea.com>
Subject: (elongates) Finished Location Update first pass
Date: 14 Oct 1997 12:38:23 -0700

Ok,

I finally finished the first pass. If people look over the trade list,
they'll notice that some of the pennies haven't been documented
yet. It's true. This installment was the only almost completely
organized.

I'll compile the rest in a couple of days.

- Jeff

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) DON'T Mail me anything
Date: 14 Oct 1997 13:54:24 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

My moving day has just been moved up to Monday! So, if you have
anything set aside to mail to me, please just hold onto it for now. I'm
still not sure where I'm going, but I'll post my new address as soon as I
know it.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) DON'T Mail me anything
Date: 14 Oct 1997 20:03:21 -0500

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> Greetings & Salutations!
>
> My moving day has just been moved up to Monday! So, if you have
> anything set aside to mail to me, please just hold onto it for now. I'm
> still not sure where I'm going, but I'll post my new address as soon as I
> know it.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

I may have sent one out over the weekend or late last week. Keep an eye
out for it.

Janelle

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) DON'T Mail me anything
Date: 14 Oct 1997 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, James Henry wrote:

> I may have sent one out over the weekend or late last week. Keep an eye
> out for it.
>
I got your package today. Thanx!

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Matthew Birchard <psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu>
Subject: (elongates) C=64 game
Date: 14 Oct 1997 21:52:18 -0700 (PDT)

Hi,
The person that asked, I'm the video game collector. I'm sure I
could help you find the game you want. I tried a private e-mail reply,
but it was undeliverable. And I've since deleted the origional message,
and I don't remember who asked. Anyway, send me a note and I'll try to
help.
And to stay on topic a bit: I got a coin while at work Monday
night. A customer had it in there change that they pulled out of their
pocket. I commented on it, said I collected them and that I had
hundreds, and they gave it to me. Neat!

Matt Birchard
Portland, Oregon
USA

e-mail: psu05992@odin.cc.pdx.edu

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Disneyland Machines Back on Stage.
Date: 15 Oct 1997 10:31:01 -0400 (EDT)

Hi;

As of late yesterday, (The Orange County fire stopped short of my home, so, I
celebrated by taking off to press some cents :-) I found all machines back
on stage that were there 10/1/97 plus the "Witches", DIS-DL-98,99,100 and the
DIS-DL-69, 70 with DIS-DLH-8. 94 degrees in the park, but, very dry.

If you asked me for a set of Witches, and I haven't gotten back to you this
week, please send another request. My e-mail archive has a stress related
ailment. %-)

Happy Collecting
-Bob Hoff

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Machines Back on Stage.
Date: 15 Oct 1997 10:13:01 -0500

I would like a set of the witches (DSL-DL-98,99,100). Would also like a
DIS-DLH-1 of the Hotel and Monorail. Need any from MN for a trade
or cash?

Flats

Janelle Henry
13231 179 1/2 Ave
Elk River, MN 55330

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) Weather/Location Update
Date: 15 Oct 1997 08:41:27 -0700

On 10/15/97 7:31 AM Bob Hoff (R0BERTH0FF@aol.com ) wrote

> 94 degrees in the park, but, very dry.

Yuppers, it was 100 here in our part of San Diego county yesterday! Ran
the air conditioner for a while...

Location Keeper Update: As you all know, I need to move the Smashed Coin
Locator to a new server somewhere. I am still looking for a location and
will send you the new URL once I have a place to land the files... While
I can't update files until I move the site, I still need all the
locations you are finding (or any other info you'd like to see on the
web) so please keep those emails comin' -- I REALLY appreciate all your
help!

Bert

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From: Chris Aahz <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: (elongates) TDL coin info
Date: 15 Oct 1997 10:33:42 -0600 (MDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

Just received this note from one of the people I'm trying to get
TDL elongates from:

> > > Megara, head on left, "Hercules" horizontal, not dated
> > > Hercules, head on right, "Hercules", not dated
>
> I think these coins are special souvenir for "Hercules The Hero" event
> (From July 17, until October 24).So I won't be able to get them.

None of my people are going until November. Any one else have a
shot at being there before 10/24?

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TDL coin info
Date: 15 Oct 1997 09:43:03 -0700

On 10/15/97 9:33 AM Chris Aahz (vmphntr@xmission.com ) wrote

> None of my people are going until November. Any one else have a
>shot at being there before 10/24?

We have friends that are from Japan, based here for a couple of years. I
will ask them today!

Bert

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TDL coin info
Date: 15 Oct 1997 11:56:35 -0500

Bert Creighton wrote:
>
> On 10/15/97 9:33 AM Chris Aahz (vmphntr@xmission.com ) wrote
>
> > None of my people are going until November. Any one else have a
> >shot at being there before 10/24?
>
> We have friends that are from Japan, based here for a couple of years. I
> will ask them today!
>
> Bert

I would love a set so keep me in mind.

Flats

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TDL coin info
Date: 15 Oct 1997 10:03:42 -0700

Rather than everyone sending emails to me/list about the Tokyo Disney
coins, let me see if I can get anything first. I know most of us will
want at least 1 of each and possibly more, so I will try to find someone
there willing to play Big Al-san for us.

bc

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) I found the pig!
Date: 15 Oct 1997 13:08:49 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Jeff,

A while back, you asked about the "Flying Pig" (a zinc ANA 1988 ec)? I
thought that Gina had it based on a discription she gave me. I don't know
what coin she has, but, I have the ANA piggy, and if you want it's your's as
a gift. :-)

-Bob

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) TDL coin info
Date: 15 Oct 1997 13:09:46 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-15 12:36:58 EDT, you write:

> None of my people are going until November. Any one else have a
> shot at being there before 10/24?
>

50 / 50 chance for me. Working hard on it.

-Bob

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From: Alan Kita <alkita@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) I found the pig!
Date: 15 Oct 1997 10:27:59 -0800

On a road trip between Salt Lake City and San Francisco, we stopped in
Winnemucca Nevada the Spud Capital of the World - presumably one of the
farms grows thousands and thousands of acres of potatoes.

Anyways the best place to eat in town it the Flying Pig BBQ and their
logo had a pig with wings like Pegasus. I don't remember seeing a penny
machine then but the logo was very cute.

Alan

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) I found the pig!
Date: 15 Oct 1997 14:45:28 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-10-15 13:28:41 EDT, you write:

> Anyways the best place to eat in town it the Flying Pig BBQ and their
> logo had a pig with wings like Pegasus. I don't remember seeing a penny
> machine then but the logo was very cute.
>
> Alan
>

Hi Alan!

I'm a bit e-mail impaired today and sent my e-mail to Jeff via the list.
(Yikes!)

The Flying Pig ec is one from an ANA convention, held at Porkopolis, Ohio
(!), not the resturant :-).

-Bob

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From: rfritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Knott's Berry Farm
Date: 15 Oct 1997 15:25:05 -0400

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> Greetings & Salutations!
>
> I need a favor. Can someone go by Kathy's Penny Page and send me
> a description of four of her Knott's Berry Farm coins for me? I have a
> non-graphical browser, so can't see 'em myself, but need the descriptions
> for the KBF catalog.
>
> The four I need are:
>
> Calif. Marketplace
> Inventors Workshop
> Camp Snoopy
> Mrs. Knott's
>
> Thanx!
>
> Aahz

Chris,

I know this is a few days late, but most browsers will allow a download
of a graphical file to your hard drive. Try placing your cursor over
the icon for the file, then clicking the RIGHT mouse button. Often a
mini-menu appears where a download option is available. Also try your
menu bar, usually FILE, look for download options.

Then all you have to do is view the image on your own viewer.

Good luck,

Bob Fritsch
mailto:rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: rfritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) DON'T Mail me anything
Date: 15 Oct 1997 15:56:55 -0400

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> Greetings & Salutations!
>
> My moving day has just been moved up to Monday! So, if you have
> anything set aside to mail to me, please just hold onto it for now. I'm
> still not sure where I'm going, but I'll post my new address as soon as I
> know it.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

I mailed my stuff to you yesterday. Should be there by Saturday I hope.

Bob Fritsch
mailto:rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: Chris Aahz <vmphntr@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Knott's Berry Farm
Date: 15 Oct 1997 14:11:09 -0600 (MDT)

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, rfritsch wrote:

> I know this is a few days late, but most browsers will allow a download
> of a graphical file to your hard drive. Try placing your cursor over
> the icon for the file, then clicking the RIGHT mouse button. Often a
> mini-menu appears where a download option is available. Also try your
> menu bar, usually FILE, look for download options.

Bob,

Thanx, but I'm dealing with a MUCH older system here. I don't
even have a mouse :) Anywayz, I use the Lynx browser and can download
some images (ie. the images on David's Disneyland page). However, Kathy
has her images placed 'Inline'. I'm not really sure what that means other
then instead of seeing the image I just see [INLINE]. There is no way for
me to download these images.

The plus side of using Lynx is that pages load REALLY fast, and I
still get the text which is (to moe) the most important part of 99% of the
pages I visit.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: rfritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) "Mule"?
Date: 15 Oct 1997 16:24:48 -0400

A couple of day ago, Chris Aahz wrote:
> I've been going through some listings by Doug Fairbanks and
> noticed that he uses the term "Mule" to describe several issues. Anyone
> know what he means by this?

Numismatically, a mule is a coin with a mismatched obverse and reverse.
Sorta like a Jefferson nickel with a Buffalo reverse. Mules were once
fairly common in the early days of the Republic, but with modern minting
technology they are hardly never seen.

In elongates, I would imagine a mule is one which is double sided but
with mismatched sides.

This probably confuses the issue. ;>

Bob Fritsch
mailto:rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: rfritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) The Chris Catalog
Date: 15 Oct 1997 16:35:00 -0400

One suggestion on your endeavor....

Why don't you write to Lee Martin and Angelo Rosato and Dottie Dow too
and explain what you are going to do? Ask them for any insights they
could give you and what traps to avoid. DON'T give the impression that
you are going to throw out their work and put your own in (I know you're
not, but make sure they know it too). In other words, get their
blessing for your catalog and then you won't have nearly the resistance
from the TEC old liners you could have.

Keep up the good work. It will be far harder than you can conceivably
imagine right now. My own New Hampshire woods catalog is proof of
that. I'll be glad to help however I can.

Bob Fritsch
mailto:rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: tony dinto <stanton@eci.com>
Subject: (elongates) Engraver
Date: 15 Oct 1997 16:32:03 +0000

Hi,
Could some please tell me who is or was F.C. Spadone?
I have a coin with his name spelled out that way.
Thank You,
Tony

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Machines Back on Stage.
Date: 15 Oct 1997 13:39:18 -0700

James Henry wrote:

> I would like a set of the witches (DSL-DL-98,99,100). Would also
> like a
> DIS-DLH-1 of the Hotel and Monorail. Need any from MN for a trade
>
> or cash?
>
> Flats
>
> Janelle Henry
> 13231 179 1/2 Ave
> Elk River, MN 55330

I sent you a set yesterday!!!!!

Nancy

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From: John & Nancy Wooten <nwooten@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disneyland Machines Back on Stage.
Date: 15 Oct 1997 13:40:48 -0700

James Henry wrote:

> I would like a set of the witches (DSL-DL-98,99,100). Would also
> like a
> DIS-DLH-1 of the Hotel and Monorail. Need any from MN for a trade
>
> or cash?
>
> Flats
>
> Janelle Henry
> 13231 179 1/2 Ave
> Elk River, MN 55330

Flats, I sent you a 98, 99 and 100 yesterday. Can add a DIS-DLH-1
in with the zoo if you want.

Nancy

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) "Mule"?
Date: 15 Oct 1997 13:42:44 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, rfritsch wrote:

> Numismatically, a mule is a coin with a mismatched obverse and reverse.
<snip>
> In elongates, I would imagine a mule is one which is double sided but
> with mismatched sides.
>
> This probably confuses the issue. ;>

Actually, it makes a lot more sense to me, Bob. Thanx! The
general consensus (and likely how the term is NOW generally understood)
was that a double-sided elongate is a mule. I didn't see any reason to
call it anything other then 'double-sided' in that case. The mismatched
sides not only fits the term 'mule' better, but also seems to fit within
the usage in the listings I was looking at.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) Fast TDL HELP!!!!
Date: 15 Oct 1997 14:24:44 -0700

Hi to those of you online at the moment,

Does anyone have a complete list of the Tokyo coins? I just ran home to
get the list so I can get it to a friend who may (MAY) be able to arrange
for someone to visit Tokyo Disneyland next week...

Thanks for any complete lists you may have (in the next few mins)

bc

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) THANKS!
Date: 15 Oct 1997 14:30:10 -0700

Jeff and Chris,

THANKS for the fast help! I'll print it out and see if we can get them!

Bert

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) The Chris Catalog
Date: 15 Oct 1997 14:43:13 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, rfritsch wrote:

> One suggestion on your endeavor....
>
> Why don't you write to Lee Martin and Angelo Rosato and Dottie Dow too
> and explain what you are going to do? Ask them for any insights they
> could give you and what traps to avoid. DON'T give the impression that
> you are going to throw out their work and put your own in (I know you're
> not, but make sure they know it too). In other words, get their
> blessing for your catalog and then you won't have nearly the resistance
> from the TEC old liners you could have.

When I first came up with this whole catalogging idea (over two
years ago, now), step one on my list was to contact those who have done
the work before. When I started getting serious about doing it (about
six months ago) I still had this one my 'to do' list, but I'm notorious
lazy when it comes to letter writing. Then, in July I started toying
around with the new system and mentioned it to Bert, who started
pestering me about it until I got details worked out. ;)

So after a slow start things have accelerated VERY quickly and
I've kinda been caught up in the whirlwind. In that same time period I
managed to make a few enemies in TEC so am still wary of proposing
anything on paper. The catalog certainly isn't going to appear
overnight, so I plan on discussing it with the ol' pros at the ANA
convention in Portland next year. That gives more time for the waves I
created over the election to die down and for me to work out any serious
defects in the system. Since I'm still dealing primarily with 'machine
rolled' issues (as opposed to roller issues) it's pretty much stuff that
is currently completely uncatalogged anyway from what I understand.

> Keep up the good work. It will be far harder than you can conceivably
> imagine right now. My own New Hampshire woods catalog is proof of
> that. I'll be glad to help however I can.

Thanx for the encouragement and support! Believe me, I've never
thought this was going to be easy. Fortunately, manipulating information
has always been a passion of mine, so it's something I enjoy spending
several hours a day doing 8-)

Peace,

Aahz

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