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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: (elongates) Hello
Date: 01 Jul 1997 10:40:11 -0400

Hello everybody,

I've been collecting elongated pennies for about 2 years now. I started
collecting during college - which I'll explain to the group
sometime.

I live in Boston, Massachusetts and am quite open to the trade the pennies
available here:

Boston Museum of Science:
Galaxy Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of some planets and the moon?
Planetarium Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of the planetarium machine
and the big and little dippers.

New England Aquarium of Boston:
Black Footed Penguin Penny - Vertical - one of the coolest pennies to date!
It's a black footed penguin.

I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and
will post them on my web page when all is said and done:
http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon

- Jeff

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method?
Date: 01 Jul 1997 21:30:56 -0400

R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi;
>
> I would like to "imprint" some U.S. cents. Is there a simple machine
> available that would "stamp" an image of say maybe a 1/4 square inch in area
> on a cent?
>
> My budget is too small to purchase a roller, but, I would like to mark some
> cents to be given away as promotional pieces if possible.
>
> Thanks, and happy collecting,
>
> -Bob
> TEC # 2033

It sounds like you want to mark your coins with a punch of some type.
As Chris said, the ready made ones are relatively inexpensive. Anything
else would have to be a special order.

It all depends upon how you want to mark your coins. There are those
Lincoln cents with all sorts of things stamped on them (a pipe, Kennedy,
Masonic emblem, etc). If that is your desire, you must find someone to
make the punch for you. Look in the phone book for "Die Sinkers
(makers)."

Letter and number punches are readily available for a few dollars each.

Regards,

Bob Fritsch
TEC #1871

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 01 Jul 1997 21:43:03 -0400

Jeff Dixon wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I've been collecting elongated pennies for about 2 years now. I started
> collecting during college - which I'll explain to the group
> sometime.
>
> I live in Boston, Massachusetts and am quite open to the trade the pennies
> available here:
>
> Boston Museum of Science:
> Galaxy Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of some planets and the moon?
> Planetarium Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of the planetarium machine
> and the big and little dippers.
>
> New England Aquarium of Boston:
> Black Footed Penguin Penny - Vertical - one of the coolest pennies to date!
> It's a black footed penguin.
>
> I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and
> will post them on my web page when all is said and done:
> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon
>
> - Jeff

Hi Jeff,

Saw your message on the elongateds list and wanted to let you know that
Ray Dillard (Mr. Elongated) will be at the NENA show in August. It is
in Marlborough at the Royal Plaza Trade Center, Route 20 West off
I-495. Dates are 22-23 August.

I am the President of NENA. If you come to the show, please look me
up. I'd be happy to meet you.

Regards,

Bob Fritsch
TEC 1871

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method? (fwd)
Date: 01 Jul 1997 19:12:40 -0700 (PDT)

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a striking response...
Christine from the Squished Penny Museum once aquired a penny with an imprint
struck into it. A woman at the NOW rally in D.C. a few years back had a big
pile of pennies and a hammer and an awl-like tool. She would pound the awl
thing with the hammer to imprint the word "CHOICE" on a penny. The awl device
had reversed letters on its end which, when struck with some force, would
make an impression on the soft copper. It sounds similar to the ones Aahz has
descibed as seeing at Home Depot, etc.
REPLY FROM: Pete Morelewicz
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Bob,

Try your local Home Depot or Orchard Supply Hardware. Tell them
what you want to do, and they can probably help you out. I believe,
although I could be way off base here, that there are simple metal
punches available with lettering on them.
If you want a special logo designed, you'll probably need to call
a machine shop, or something similar.

Just a couple of guesses.

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> Hi;
>
> I would like to "imprint" some U.S. cents. Is there a simple machine
> available that would "stamp" an image of say maybe a 1/4 square inch in area
> on a cent?
>
> My budget is too small to purchase a roller, but, I would like to mark some
> cents to be given away as promotional pieces if possible.
>
> Thanks, and happy collecting,
>
> -Bob
> TEC # 2033
>
>

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 01 Jul 1997 19:43:07 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote:

>
> Hello everybody,

<snip>

> I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and
> will post them on my web page when all is said and done:
> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon
>
> - Jeff

Jeff,

I'm pretty ignorant of HTML, so forgive me if I'm using the wrong
word's here. From what I understand, there are ttwo ways to put graphics
on your webpage: 'Inline', one result of which is that graphics can't be
downloaded and, '????' which allows the graphics to be downloaded.

I use a non-graphical browser, so VASTLY prefer that when you
construct your page you do not put the graphics 'inline'. I know that
this is how Kathy does her page. Result: I can't see any of her
graphics! When the graphics are not done inline I can download them and
look at them offline.

Just one man's opinion/request.

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 CoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method?
Date: 02 Jul 1997 12:20:20 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-01 22:33:10 EDT, you write:

> It sounds like you want to mark your coins with a punch of some type.
> As Chris said, the ready made ones are relatively inexpensive. Anything
> else would have to be a special order.
>
> It all depends upon how you want to mark your coins. There are those
> Lincoln cents with all sorts of things stamped on them (a pipe, Kennedy,
> Masonic emblem, etc). If that is your desire, you must find someone to
> make the punch for you. Look in the phone book for "Die Sinkers
> (makers)."
>
> Letter and number punches are readily available for a few dollars each.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Fritsch
> TEC #1871
>

Hi Bob;

Thank you for the reply. Sounds like good advice, I was hoping that there
would be some small device that would "line up" the die/punch or maybe a
small screw press of sorts. I'll make the calls suggested and see if I can't
come up with a new coin for our collections :-).

Happy Collecting,
-Bob
TEC#2033

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method? (fwd)
Date: 02 Jul 1997 12:21:04 -0400 (EDT)

:

> a striking response...
> Christine from the Squished Penny Museum once aquired a penny with an
> imprint
> struck into it. A woman at the NOW rally in D.C. a few years back had a
big
> pile of pennies and a hammer and an awl-like tool. She would pound the awl

> thing with the hammer to imprint the word "CHOICE" on a penny. The awl
> device
> had reversed letters on its end which, when struck with some force, would
> make an impression on the soft copper. It sounds similar to the ones Aahz
> has
> descibed as seeing at Home Depot, etc.
> -

Pete;

Your striking response has made an impression on me! :-)

Was the awl-like device a single tool with several letters cut on it or was
there just one letter each on several tools?

Thanks,
-Bob
TEC#2033

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 02 Jul 1997 15:56:43 -0400

Hi Bob,

What does NENA stand for?

- Jeff

At 09:43 PM 7/1/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Jeff Dixon wrote:
>>
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> I've been collecting elongated pennies for about 2 years now. I started
>> collecting during college - which I'll explain to the group
>> sometime.
>>
>> I live in Boston, Massachusetts and am quite open to the trade the pennies
>> available here:
>>
>> Boston Museum of Science:
>> Galaxy Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of some planets and the
moon?
>> Planetarium Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of the planetarium machine
>> and the big and little dippers.
>>
>> New England Aquarium of Boston:
>> Black Footed Penguin Penny - Vertical - one of the coolest pennies to date!
>> It's a black footed penguin.
>>
>> I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and
>> will post them on my web page when all is said and done:
>> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon
>>
>> - Jeff
>
>Hi Jeff,
>
>Saw your message on the elongateds list and wanted to let you know that
>Ray Dillard (Mr. Elongated) will be at the NENA show in August. It is
>in Marlborough at the Royal Plaza Trade Center, Route 20 West off
>I-495. Dates are 22-23 August.
>
>I am the President of NENA. If you come to the show, please look me
>up. I'd be happy to meet you.
>
>Regards,
>
>Bob Fritsch
>TEC 1871
>
>

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 02 Jul 1997 16:25:50 -0700

Jeff Dixon wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> What does NENA stand for?
>
> - Jeff
>
> At 09:43 PM 7/1/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >Jeff Dixon wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello everybody,
> >>
> >> I've been collecting elongated pennies for about 2 years now. I started
> >> collecting during college - which I'll explain to the group
> >> sometime.
> >>
> >> I live in Boston, Massachusetts and am quite open to the trade the pennies
> >> available here:
> >>
> >> Boston Museum of Science:
> >> Galaxy Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of some planets and the
> moon?
> >> Planetarium Penny - Horizontal - Has a picture of the planetarium machine
> >> and the big and little dippers.
> >>
> >> New England Aquarium of Boston:
> >> Black Footed Penguin Penny - Vertical - one of the coolest pennies to date!
> >> It's a black footed penguin.
> >>
> >> I'm in the process of scanning in my modest penny collection (~175) and
> >> will post them on my web page when all is said and done:
> >> http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/jdixon
> >>
> >> - Jeff
> >
> >Hi Jeff,
> >
> >Saw your message on the elongateds list and wanted to let you know that
> >Ray Dillard (Mr. Elongated) will be at the NENA show in August. It is
> >in Marlborough at the Royal Plaza Trade Center, Route 20 West off
> >I-495. Dates are 22-23 August.
> >
> >I am the President of NENA. If you come to the show, please look me
> >up. I'd be happy to meet you.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Bob Fritsch
> >TEC 1871
> >
> >

My guess is that NENA = New England Numismatic Association.
--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

******** ****************** ******************

P.S.
Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: (elongates) Countermarks
Date: 02 Jul 1997 16:56:59 -0400

Hi all.

Two sources to try for dies for countermarking:

Henry A. Evers Corp.
72 N. Oxford St.
Providence, RI 02905
Ph. 401-781-4767
Fax 401-781-9581

OR

Centaur Forge. ltd.
P.O. Box 340-A
117 N. Spring St.
Burlington, WI 53105
Ph. 414-763-9175
Fax 414-763-8350

If you send Centaur Forge a hand drawn design of what you want, and the
desired overall height. They will send you a written quote within a few
days.

If you contact either of these companies, please let them know that
their information was passed along from ads in 'The Blade' magazine.

Good luck.

Ben Lavine
mcsquare@erols.com

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 02 Jul 1997 21:19:57 -0400

Jeff Dixon wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> What does NENA stand for?
>
> - Jeff

New England Numismatic Association. We are the oldest regional club in
the US, and boast a membership of over 500. I would be happy to send
you our latest issue of our magazine and a membership application.
Please send your SnailMail address (only to me, not to the group) and
I'll get it in the mail immediately.

We are an ANA member club and are listed on their web site
(www.money.org).

Bob

NENA
PO Box 3003
Nashua, NH 03061-3003

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 02 Jul 1997 21:31:03 -0400

William C. Massey wrote:
> My guess is that NENA = New England Numismatic Association.
> --
> Elongatedly Yours,
>
> William C. Massey
> TEC #1857

Exactly right! Come see us for our 53rd Annual Conference and
Convention in Marlborough, MA the weekend before Labor Day (22-23 Aug).
We do a Friday/Saturday show as everybody seems to like that schedule.
Anthony Swiatek will be our keynote speaker and Ray Dillard will be
there to squash pennies. Should be lots of fun.

Bob Fritsch
rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarking method?
Date: 02 Jul 1997 20:43:52 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> Hi Bob;
>
> Thank you for the reply. Sounds like good advice, I was hoping that there
> would be some small device that would "line up" the die/punch or maybe a
> small screw press of sorts. I'll make the calls suggested and see if I can't
> come up with a new coin for our collections :-).
>
> Happy Collecting,
> -Bob
> TEC#2033
>
Bob,

Don't forget to let us all know how things work out!

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 02 Jul 1997 20:50:20 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote:

> Exactly right! Come see us for our 53rd Annual Conference and
> Convention in Marlborough, MA the weekend before Labor Day (22-23 Aug).

Isn't this the same weekend that ANA is in New York?

> We do a Friday/Saturday show as everybody seems to like that schedule.
> Anthony Swiatek will be our keynote speaker and Ray Dillard will be
> there to squash pennies. Should be lots of fun.

Be sure to pick up a few extras of Ray's elongates for trades!
Coin shows are one of my areas of interest, so you can count me in for
one of each variety from the show.

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 03 Jul 1997 07:59:13 -0400

Bob Fritsch wrote:
>
> William C. Massey wrote:
> > My guess is that NENA = New England Numismatic Association.
> > --
> > Elongatedly Yours,
> >
> > William C. Massey
> > TEC #1857
>
> Exactly right! Come see us for our 53rd Annual Conference and
> Convention in Marlborough, MA the weekend before Labor Day (22-23 Aug).

Hi Bob!

What are the show hours for Fri. and Sat. 8/22, 8/23?

Thanks!

Ben Lavine
mcsquare@erols.com
> We do a Friday/Saturday show as everybody seems to like that schedule.
> Anthony Swiatek will be our keynote speaker and Ray Dillard will be
> there to squash pennies. Should be lots of fun.
>
> Bob Fritsch
> rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Lord's Prayer elongates
Date: 03 Jul 1997 21:18:46 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

Well, I've just confirmed that no one has, to date, completed a
listing of all of the Lord's Prayer elongated coins. Apparently, Angelo
Rosato began such a work, but was unable to complete it. The others who
have publicly announced their desire to do so have also found themselves
unable to make a serious effort, generally due to failing eyesight. So,
I have decided to take the plunge.

Martin-Dow's "Yesterday's Elongateds" lists nearly 200 variations
of elongated coins with the Lord's Prayer. This book was published in
1981 and covers primarily issues up to 1965. In addition, Doug
Fairbainks lists another five from this time period in his "Guide to
Unlisteds". I believe that there are more than 1,000 different
elongateds containing the text of the Lord's Prayer. Why so many
variations? Well, the simple answer is that the Lord's Prayer is both
timeless and popular. Most elongateds commemorate a special event or
site, thus a roller had a finite window in which to sell those issues.
However, A roller could cut a die with the Lord's Prayer and continue to
roll and sell it forever. Each roller would use his own formatting and
border design. Additionally, if you were ask ten people to recite the
Lord's Prayer you would hear at least four different variations on it.

As you can tell, this is a mammoth undertaking and one that can
not be done in a vacuum. So I am sending out a call for help. If you
receive an offer for a Lord's Prayer elongate, or see one for sale,
please either pick it up for me, or let me know how I can get hold of
it. If you have one (or more) Lord's Prayer elongates in your
collection, could you possibly send me a scan or photo of it/them?

Many people have expressed an interest in this work, and I will,
of course, give full credit to all of those who assist me in its
completion. Thank you in advance for your help!

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Punk elongates?
Date: 04 Jul 1997 01:14:15 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

=09I just finished going thru about 1500 newsgroup messages from=20
95-present that showed up on searcehs for pressed pennies, elongated=20
cents, etc. I just had to share this post I found in the alt.punk=20
newsgroup. And to think, I thought I was the only person in the world=20
that was interested in BOTH punk music and the Lord's Prayer on elongates!
=09I guess it's true, if you spend enough time in cyberspace you'll=20
run across just about everything.

=09=09Peace,

=09=09=09Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT=20
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

Message deleted -Subject matter and language.

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 04 Jul 1997 06:15:53 -0400

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote:
>
> > Exactly right! Come see us for our 53rd Annual Conference and
> > Convention in Marlborough, MA the weekend before Labor Day (22-23 Aug).
>
> Isn't this the same weekend that ANA is in New York?

ANANY is 30 Jul - 3 Aug, one month before the NENA show.

> Be sure to pick up a few extras of Ray's elongates for trades!
> Coin shows are one of my areas of interest, so you can count me in for
> one of each variety from the show.

Will do!

Bob

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Hello
Date: 04 Jul 1997 06:39:47 -0400

Mary C. and Ben L. wrote:
>
> Hi Bob!
>
> What are the show hours for Fri. and Sat. 8/22, 8/23?
>
> Thanks!

Show hours are 10AM - 6PM on Friday 22 August, and 9AM - 4PM on Saturday
23 August. The Royal Plaza Trade Center is located in Marlborough, MA,
Route 20 West, Exit 24B off I-495. It's about a mile from the
Interstate. If you have kids, bring them for the YN Fourm (Boy Scout
Coin Collecting Merit Badge can be signed off here; not sure about the
Girl Scout Collecting badge). We also have exhibits and speakers and a
What-Is-It? Table.

Be sure to say "Hi" when you come.

Bob

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Lord's Prayer elongates
Date: 04 Jul 1997 10:07:45 -0500

I have two that I will throw into your others at no charge.

janelle

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Countermarks
Date: 04 Jul 1997 12:06:32 -0400 (EDT)

Hi Ben!

Great leads! Thanks! I'll check them out next week.
All have a great weekend!
-Bob

In a message dated 97-07-03 22:27:49 EDT, you write:

> Hi all.
>
> Two sources to try for dies for countermarking:
>
> Henry A. Evers Corp.
> 72 N. Oxford St.
> Providence, RI 02905
> Ph. 401-781-4767
> Fax 401-781-9581
>
> OR
>
> Centaur Forge. ltd.
> P.O. Box 340-A
> 117 N. Spring St.
> Burlington, WI 53105
> Ph. 414-763-9175
> Fax 414-763-8350
>
> If you send Centaur Forge a hand drawn design of what you want, and the
> desired overall height. They will send you a written quote within a few
> days.
>
> If you contact either of these companies, please let them know that
> their information was passed along from ads in 'The Blade' magazine.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Ben Lavine
> mcsquare@erols.com
>

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From: ... <...>
Subject: (elongates) Machine Locations
Date: 04 Jul 1997 11:47:48 -0500

Does anyone know of any coin machines in Cleveland, Ohio? Is there a machine at the Rock-n-Roll Museum?
What about Memphis, TN? Are there any Elvis coins?
Any at Niagara Falls near Buffalo, NY?
I've already checked out Willy's Hitchhikers Guide and Bert's Smashed Coin Locator.
Please let me know. I may be visiting these locations very soon.
Thanks!
...
trueWeb Design
...
http://www.truewebdesign.com

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) elongated pennies from Disney World
Date: 04 Jul 1997 11:52:27 -0500

Does anyone have access to the full set of Disney World pennies? Would
like to obtain the full set (yes I know it is a large number) on pre-82
pennies. Is it possible? Thanks.

Janelle Henry

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Special NASA coin sign?
Date: 04 Jul 1997 23:45:57 -0700 (PDT)

There's a couple of interesting points in this Newsgroup post:

> > Subject: [10]Re: penny on railroad tracks
> > From: [11]catherine yronwode <yronwode@sonic.net>
> > Date: 1996/08/07
> > Message-Id: <32096F7A.7E25@sonic.net>
> > Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
> >
> > Andrew S Goldstein wrote:
> > >
> > > [13]swright@prairienet.org (Stephen Wright) writes:
> > >
> > > >Maggie Newman ([14]smnewman@gsbkma.uchicago.edu) wrote:
> > > >: ObLudditeRant: Nowadays, kids have everything done FOR 'em. My daughter
> > > >: owns a flattened penny created by the revisionist method of taking a
> > > >: regular penny to the Chicago Museum of Science
> > > >: and Industry where they have a *machine* that flattens the pennies just
> > > >: the same way a train would if you put it on the tracks. Waaah.

This just made me smile 8-)
> > >
> > > >I saw one of the penny-flattening machines in the "oasis" (highway rest
> > > >stop) near O'Hare. I was amused to see a machine designed for the
> > > >specific purpose of defacing U.S. currency in a public rest stop on an
> > > >Interstate highway!
> > >
I believe this machine is still active. Confirmations?

> > > >steve
> > >
> > > I've seen these in several places, the most interesting one being at the
> > > Boston Museum of Science. The machine includes a disclaimer that states
> > > that, although under normal circumstances defacing currency is illegal,
> > > that particular machine provides an exception. (You put in a penny and
> > > get out a government-sanctioned "NASA coin" with a picture of the space
> > > shuttle on it. I'm not sure, but I think you may have to pay an
> > > additional quarter as well.

Okay, here's the real question. Is this report authentic? Does
this sign actually say something to the effect of 'government-sanctioned'?!?

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Official Disney elongates Display?
Date: 05 Jul 1997 00:04:19 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

Has anyone here heard anything about Disney creating a special
display for their coins?

Peace,

Aahz

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> > Article 23 of 796
> >
> > Subject: [10]Re: Displaying Pressed Pennies?
> > From: [11]rhgru@aol.com (RHGRU)
> > Date: 1997/02/28
> > Message-Id: <19970228154800.KAA29113@ladder02.news.aol.com>
> > Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney.parks
> > [12][More Headers]
> >
> > On 25 Feb 1997 [13]rlange@everest.acpl.lib.in.us wrote:
> > > Now that we've come home with our pockets overflowing with our newly
> > >aquired pressed pennies, and quarters, what is the best way to display
> > >them? Anybody out there have any ideas? Interested to hear your
> > >responses. Ryan Lange
> >
> > Ryan: When we were at OKWR last Janaury 15, I asked in the gift shop
> > about a display case for penny presses and one of the CM's told me that
> > they are working on one. They have had many requests for one because the
> > penny presses have become so popular.
> >
> > Rhona Grumet
> > DVC Member
> >
>

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Another possible machine location
Date: 05 Jul 1997 00:32:07 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings and Salutations!

Here is yet another possible machine location that my newsgroup
search pulled up.

Peace,

Aahz

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List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
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> > Article 429 of 796
> >
> > Subject: [10]Re: TRIVIA TIME!!!
> > From: [11]lani@lava.net (Mama Lani)
> > Date: 1996/01/02
> > Message-Id: <4cc6dv$l2k@nuhou.aloha.net>
> > Newsgroups: soc.culture.hawaii
> >
> > The famous Matsumoto's Shave Ice is in Haleiwa, also. If you don't wanna
> > stand in a long line, or spend lots of money on a souvenir, you can get a
> > pressed penny outside their shop for just 51 cents (two quarters and a
> > penny). It squishes your penny and presses a Matsumoto's shop logo onto
> > the penny. Makes a cute souvenir.
> >
> >
> > --
> > * This is Lani Teshima-Miller, posting live from Honolulu, Hawaii on LAVA *
> > * We paved paradise, put up a parking lot--and now our state govt's broke *
> > * lani@lava.net--fun stuff; teshima@hawaii.edu--work stuff, tax-supported *
> > * Rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ maintainer...FDC Walkaround Mr. Potato Head *

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Another possible machine location
Date: 05 Jul 1997 01:40:33 -0700

Hi Chris,

I can confirm the Matsumoto Penny Machine. I was there last Sunday. I added
this one and one other Haleiwa machine to my Hawaii home page.

Bert
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com
/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> Greetings and Salutations!
>
> Here is yet another possible machine location that my newsgroup
> search pulled up.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
> ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
> Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
> The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
> List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
> "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
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> > > Article 429 of 796
> > >
> > > Subject: [10]Re: TRIVIA TIME!!!
> > > From: [11]lani@lava.net (Mama Lani)
> > > Date: 1996/01/02
> > > Message-Id: <4cc6dv$l2k@nuhou.aloha.net>
> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.hawaii
> > >
> > > The famous Matsumoto's Shave Ice is in Haleiwa, also. If you don't wanna
> > > stand in a long line, or spend lots of money on a souvenir, you can get a
> > > pressed penny outside their shop for just 51 cents (two quarters and a
> > > penny). It squishes your penny and presses a Matsumoto's shop logo onto
> > > the penny. Makes a cute souvenir.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > * This is Lani Teshima-Miller, posting live from Honolulu, Hawaii on LAVA *
> > > * We paved paradise, put up a parking lot--and now our state govt's broke *
> > > * lani@lava.net--fun stuff; teshima@hawaii.edu--work stuff, tax-supported *
> > > * Rec.arts.bodyart Tattoo FAQ maintainer...FDC Walkaround Mr. Potato Head *

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) A few more locations...
Date: 05 Jul 1997 02:03:59 -0700 (PDT)


Okay, here's the last of the locations I found in the newsgroups:

1) The Meteor Crater. I believe this is in Arizona.

2) Science Museum - Columbus, OH. Reported cost: $1.00

3) Santa Monica, CA pier - two designs (octopus and roller coaster)
reported 6/16/97

4) 'Just about any' rest stop on the NY State Thruway. Cost: 25c
from hand cranked machines.

5) The Museum of Science and Industry reportedly had a machine in
the mid-'70s

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine Locations
Date: 05 Jul 1997 02:20:38 -0700

Hi Kathy,

You will find Eurolink machines at Sea World Of Ohio. Here's some info from
their Home Page:

Conveniently located between Cleveland and Akron, the park is easily
accessible from
Ohio Turnpike exit 9, 13, 13A and Interstates 271 and 480.

You might also call the Cleveland Zoo and see if they have any machines. I
found Zoo Security
departments seem to have a good idea of where the machines are...

I know you will find Eurolink machines in Nashville at OprylandUSA (a theme
park). In Memphis, you will find Eurolink's at the Memphis Zoo
<http://www.memphiszoo.org/>. If you have a Zoo pass (annual pass) from Texas,
be sure to take it, many Zoo's honor passes from other Zoo's. There's a ZooNet
home page (don't have the URL in front of me...) that lists the Zoo's that
participate in reciprical agreements...

In addition, Eurolink has machines at the Six Flags parks which are located in
Los Angeles, San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, St. Louis, Chicago, New Jersey and Atlanta.

As always, please jot down any Smashed Coin Locator info... I'd love to add
these sites to my home pages so more of us can find the machines...

Have a Smashing Good Time 8-)
Bert

... wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of any coin machines in Cleveland, Ohio? Is there a machine at the Rock-n-Roll Museum?
> What about Memphis, TN? Are there any Elvis coins?
> Any at Niagara Falls near Buffalo, NY?
> I've already checked out Willy's Hitchhikers Guide and Bert's Smashed Coin Locator.
> Please let me know. I may be visiting these locations very soon.
> Thanks!
> ...
> trueWeb Design
> ...
> http://www.truewebdesign.com

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine Locations
Date: 05 Jul 1997 02:41:52 -0700

Kathy,

A little more info...

Cedar Point theme park has Eurolink machines and is on Lake Erie in Sandusky,
Ohio. Take the Ohio Turnpike (I-80) to Exit 7 and follow the signs north on
U.S. Route 250, or take
Exit 6A and follow Route 4 north. Once you reach Sandusky, just follow the
signs.

Bert

... wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of any coin machines in Cleveland, Ohio? Is there a machine at the Rock-n-Roll Museum?
> What about Memphis, TN? Are there any Elvis coins?
> Any at Niagara Falls near Buffalo, NY?
> I've already checked out Willy's Hitchhikers Guide and Bert's Smashed Coin Locator.
> Please let me know. I may be visiting these locations very soon.
> Thanks!
> ...
> trueWeb Design
> ...
> http://www.truewebdesign.com

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) elongated pennies from Disney World
Date: 05 Jul 1997 07:55:17 -0400

James Henry wrote:
>
> Does anyone have access to the full set of Disney World pennies? Would
> like to obtain the full set (yes I know it is a large number) on pre-82
> pennies. Is it possible? Thanks.
>
> Janelle Henry

Hi Janelle;

Try Big Al at ramsayal@ix.netcom.com (Big Al & Pooh Too)

or PinocProd@aol.com

Good luck.

Ben Lavine
mcsquare@erols.com

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Special NASA coin sign?
Date: 05 Jul 1997 07:57:15 -0400

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> There's a couple of interesting points in this Newsgroup post:
>
> > > Subject: [10]Re: penny on railroad tracks
> > > From: [11]catherine yronwode <yronwode@sonic.net>
> > > Date: 1996/08/07
> > > Message-Id: <32096F7A.7E25@sonic.net>
> > > Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
> > >
> > > Andrew S Goldstein wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [13]swright@prairienet.org (Stephen Wright) writes:
> > > >
> > > > >Maggie Newman ([14]smnewman@gsbkma.uchicago.edu) wrote:
> > > > >: ObLudditeRant: Nowadays, kids have everything done FOR 'em. My daughter
> > > > >: owns a flattened penny created by the revisionist method of taking a
> > > > >: regular penny to the Chicago Museum of Science
> > > > >: and Industry where they have a *machine* that flattens the pennies just
> > > > >: the same way a train would if you put it on the tracks. Waaah.
>
> This just made me smile 8-)
> > > >
> > > > >I saw one of the penny-flattening machines in the "oasis" (highway rest
> > > > >stop) near O'Hare. I was amused to see a machine designed for the
> > > > >specific purpose of defacing U.S. currency in a public rest stop on an
> > > > >Interstate highway!
> > > >
> I believe this machine is still active. Confirmations?
>
> > > > >steve
> > > >
> > > > I've seen these in several places, the most interesting one being at the
> > > > Boston Museum of Science. The machine includes a disclaimer that states
> > > > that, although under normal circumstances defacing currency is illegal,
> > > > that particular machine provides an exception. (You put in a penny and
> > > > get out a government-sanctioned "NASA coin" with a picture of the space
> > > > shuttle on it. I'm not sure, but I think you may have to pay an
> > > > additional quarter as well.
>
> Okay, here's the real question. Is this report authentic? Does
> this sign actually say something to the effect of 'government-sanctioned'?!?
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
> ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
> Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
> The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
> List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
> "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
> ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~Hi Chris.

I don't think there's any such message. Just your typical "Is It Legal"
type wording.

C-U

Ben Lavine

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) 25 subscribers
Date: 05 Jul 1997 18:03:48 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

<celebratory noises in background>
As of this afternoon, The Elongated Coin Mailing List officially
has 25 subscribers! When I was contemplating starting this list I
assumed there would be around 25 members. Well, we've hit that in a mere
two weeks! I'm very excited about this. In addition, the TEC News
article has not yet been released, and I expect to get more sunscribers
from there.

I just had to share this milestone with all of you. I hope you
all are enjoying the list as much as I am.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Dresd85854@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) 25 subscribers
Date: 05 Jul 1997 22:28:11 -0400 (EDT)

Chris,
My name is Mark and I have not actually received a list or any type of
article regarding EC's. I simply subscribed to the mailing list today. I
would be very interested however in any EC related information that might be
coming this way.
Thanks,
Mark

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) 25 subscribers
Date: 05 Jul 1997 19:34:32 -0700 (PDT)

Mark,

Welcome to the list! Don't worry, just hang in there and you
will start to see messages from the list in your mailbox. Thus far, the
majority of the posts have been trade lists and machine locations. As
the membership grows and people become more comfortable with how a
mailing list works, there will (hopefully 8-) be more general discussion
as well.

How long have you been collecting elongates? Do you have a
specialty area? Are you a TEC member?

Maybe we should each start posting brief bios about ourselves?

Peace,

Aahz

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Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
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List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) WF Elongates @ Auction
Date: 06 Jul 1997 01:52:11 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

I was just looking thru the June 30th ish of Coin World (Yeah, I
know it's pretty old already) and discovered a mail bid auction that
contains some WF elongates. Thought some of you might want to bid, so
here's the info:

Jim's Coin Service
P.O. Box 1981
Appleton, WI 54913
Phone: 414-739-1089
FAX: 414-739-3592

Mail Bid Sale Number: 245, Closing Date: July 9,1997
BID BY LOT NUMBER

No minimum bids were listed, so I have added a few notes on pricing from
my admittedlt limited experience.

LOT # DESCRIPTION MY NOTES
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~
1978 1901 Pan-Expo Electric Tower Martin-Dow lists 8
different coins this
COULD be. All rarity 2
($3-$6) <1981 prices>
Avg price: $6-$18
1979 1901 Pan-Expo Liberal Arts Martin-Dow lists 3
different. Rarity 1-2
($1-$6)
Avg Price: $6-$18
1980 1901 Pan-Expo Temple Music Martin-Dow lists 4
different. Rarity 2-3
($3-$12)
AVG Price: $6-$25

Hope this helps someone!

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Another possible machine location
Date: 06 Jul 1997 06:16:29 -0500

Bert Creighton wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I can confirm the Matsumoto Penny Machine. I was there last Sunday. I added
> this one and one other Haleiwa machine to my Hawaii home page.
>
> Bert
> http://atlantis.austin.apple.com
/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html
>
> Chris Aahz wrote:
> >
> > Greetings and Salutations!
> >
> > Here is yet another possible machine location that my newsgroup
> > search pulled up.
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Aahz
> >
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> > > > Article 429 of 796
> > > >
> > > > Subject: [10]Re: TRIVIA TIME!!!
> > > > From: [11]lani@lava.net (Mama Lani)
> > > > Date: 1996/01/02
> > > > Message-Id: <4cc6dv$l2k@nuhou.aloha.net>
> > > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.hawaii
> > > >
> > > > The famous Matsumoto's Shave Ice is in Haleiwa, also. If you don't wanna
> > > > stand in a long line, or spend lots of money on a souvenir, you can get a
> > > > pressed penny outside their shop for just 51 cents (two quarters and a
> > > > penny). It squishes your penny and presses a Matsumoto's shop logo onto
> > > > the penny. Makes a cute souvenir.
> > > >

Have tried for two days to get to Hawaii Home page. Any problems?
Would like to know about getting a penny or two from the Matsumoto shop.

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Another possible machine location
Date: 06 Jul 1997 10:06:00 -0700

Hi,

I have tried to get to the page also. It is run out of Austin Texas by my
company... Something must have happened... It will probably get resolved
tomorrow. Thanks for alerting me...

I was only able to get a few Matsumoto's, but will get many more next
month. I can trade one now, and more in August.

bc

On 7/6/97 4:16 AM James Henry (jameshenry@sprintmail.com ) wrote

>
>Have tried for two days to get to Hawaii Home page. Any problems?
>Would like to know about getting a penny or two from the Matsumoto shop.

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: (elongates) More information on the Museum of Science Space Shuttle penny
Date: 07 Jul 1997 09:41:52 -0400

Hello everybody,

I saw the Space Shuttle penny machine a year or so ago. However, I forgot
to press one. It had the standard disclaimer - but didn't
list any "official government sanction."

I'm looking for one if anybody knows where I can get my hands on it. :)

Thanks,

- Jeff

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: (elongates) New address
Date: 07 Jul 1997 16:16:29 -0400

I have a new home address (for the people who care):

Jeff Dixon
422 Mystic Ave Apt 404
Somerville, MA 02145

- Jeff :)

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) PA Turnpike machines
Date: 07 Jul 1997 22:40:08 -0700 (PDT)

Came across this article in r.c.c. today. Anyone here planning a trip
along said turnpike?

> Article 4 of 5
>
> Subject: Re: Elongates (Was: Shame on Family of Eagles)
> From: "David J. Hickson" <dhickson@monmouth.com>
> Date: 1997/07/07
> Message-Id: <33C165BB.5F10@monmouth.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.collecting.coins
> [More Headers]
>
> I always understood that elogates would be equivalent to "defacing" a
> coin, something that I thought was illegal. Imagine how tickled I was
> to travel the PA turnpike recently and find hand-crank mills at the
> turnpike authority rest stops for elongating pennies (for a donation of
> an additional 50 cents, of course!) The machine allows the operator to
> select one of four designs, including the L.P. My daughter loves 'em
> and now I am starting to get a small accumulation of them... They
> certainly look better with a pre-'82 cent for the fodder, though!
>
> David Hickson
> Jackson, NJ
> dhickson@monmouth.com
>

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: (elongates) Disney World penny set
Date: 08 Jul 1997 08:16:42 -0400

I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does
this seem high/extreme to other people?

- Jeff

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney World penny set
Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:04:22 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-08 11:55:42 EDT, you write:

> I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does
> this seem high/extreme to other people?
>

Guess it is what ever folks will pay. I prefer to just trade. But, if I
could sell say ten sets........... :-)

-Bob Hoff
TEC # 2033

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney World penny set
Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:08:06 -0400

Or sell a hundred... :^)

At 02:04 PM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 97-07-08 11:55:42 EDT, you write:
>
>> I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does
>> this seem high/extreme to other people?
>>
>
>Guess it is what ever folks will pay. I prefer to just trade. But, if I
>could sell say ten sets........... :-)
>
>-Bob Hoff
>TEC # 2033
>
>
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney World penny set
Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:14:17 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote:

>
> I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does
> this seem high/extreme to other people?
>
> - Jeff

$300 seems VERY high, unless it's perhaps a complete set since
the coins were installed, and contains all of the limited run coins. How
many coins are in the set?

BTW, what's his URL?

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Disney World penny set
Date: 08 Jul 1997 15:19:32 -0400

201 coins.

Here's his URL:
http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html
- Jeff

At 12:14 PM 7/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
>On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote:
>
>>
>> I looked at Big Al's web page. I guess he's charging $300 for a set. Does
>> this seem high/extreme to other people?
>>
>> - Jeff
>
> $300 seems VERY high, unless it's perhaps a complete set since
>the coins were installed, and contains all of the limited run coins. How
>many coins are in the set?
>
> BTW, what's his URL?
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
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>
>
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Machine Locations (fwd)
Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:20:28 -0700 (PDT)

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Right next to the official Graceland gift shops are the unofficial tourist
huts. There are 8 Elvis designs in one of the stores, for a whopping $1.00
each. Gotta love those royalty fees!

Kathy,

A little more info...

Cedar Point theme park has Eurolink machines and is on Lake Erie in Sandusky,
Ohio. Take the Ohio Turnpike (I-80) to Exit 7 and follow the signs north on
U.S. Route 250, or take
Exit 6A and follow Route 4 north. Once you reach Sandusky, just follow the
signs.

Bert

... wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of any coin machines in Cleveland, Ohio? Is there a
machine at the Rock-n-Roll Museum?
> What about Memphis, TN? Are there any Elvis coins?
> Any at Niagara Falls near Buffalo, NY?
> I've already checked out Willy's Hitchhikers Guide and Bert's Smashed Coin
Locator.
> Please let me know. I may be visiting these locations very soon.
> Thanks!
> ...
> trueWeb Design
> ...
> http://www.truewebdesign.com

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) New machine located in Minnesota
Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:39:18 -0500

I just heard there is a new machine at Underwater World at the Mall of
America. This is seperate from the Knott's Camp Snoopy set of 7. I
will be going there in the next couple of days so if anyone is
interested in a set from Underwater world or the 7 from the Mall of
America, let me know. I do make all on pre82 pennies FYI.

Janelle Henry

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New machine located in Minnesota
Date: 08 Jul 1997 15:47:15 -0400

Can you pick me up a set?

- Jeff
At 02:39 PM 7/8/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I just heard there is a new machine at Underwater World at the Mall of
>America. This is seperate from the Knott's Camp Snoopy set of 7. I
>will be going there in the next couple of days so if anyone is
>interested in a set from Underwater world or the 7 from the Mall of
>America, let me know. I do make all on pre82 pennies FYI.
>
>Janelle Henry
>
>
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Big Al's Disney World set offer
Date: 08 Jul 1997 12:55:26 -0700 (PDT)

Okay, I just checked out Big Al's offer. Elsewhere on his page
he mentions that all of the items he offers include a "minimal service
charge" he's actually set up an entire page to explain this charge, but
it comes down to a 20% surcharge on items in the parks, and no surcharge
on items outside the park.

There are 201 pennies offered in his set, at 51c each, this
totals $102.51. Add the 20% surcharge it totals $121.02. Postage can't
be more than $6, as I've received a couple seperate lots of 100 that were
sent for $3 each. Obviously, collecting this set takes more effort then
picking up a single souvenir, but I would also assume that he collects
several sets at once, spreading this effort over several sales. My
opinion: $200 is a more than fair price for this set. $300 seems extreme.

I've sent a message to Al including all of the numbers and asking
him to clarify the high price tag. If I hear back, I will forward his
response to the list.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set
Date: 08 Jul 1997 16:01:12 -0400

This is what he sent me as a response...

- Jeff

>From: "Big Al & Pooh Too!" <ramsayal@ix.netcom.com>
>To: "Jeff Dixon" <jeffd@rosemary.kurzweil.com>
>Subject: Re: Disney World penny set
>Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:24:53 -0400
>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>
>Hi Jeff!
>
>Yes, If you want the entire set of pressed pennies, the cost is $300.00
>(which is cheaper than $3.00 per penny if you just collect a few of them).
>
>If you were to come to Orlando to collect these pennies your approximate
>cost would be $102 for the pennies themselves, $217 for admission to all
>the theme parks, water parks, attractions and hotels where the machines are
>located, cost of a hotel stay, transportation costs, and about 1 to 2 days
>of your own time to physically go from place to place collecting each
>penny.
>
>It takes me about 2 full days to get each penny available, especially in
>the summer when the parks are more crowded. Sometimes the machines are
>moved to different locations than where they should be and I have to cover
>every inch of the park to find it for my customer.
>
>Nobody else does this that I am aware of and I think $300.00 is a fair
>price to pay if you're a serious collector of these pressed pennies.
>
>One more note, when the pennies are pressed through the machine, they are
>completely flattened and imprinted with whatever character you desire.
>There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on
>the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new
>pennies. Just curious...
>
>We would be happy to get the complete set for you if you want them, just
>let us know....
>
>Your Friend in the Parks,
>Big Al
>
>http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html
>
>
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) This is a test!
Date: 08 Jul 1997 13:59:58 -0700 (PDT)

A message got bounced today, and I'm not sure why, so I'm experimenting
to see if this will get bounced as well. Please excuse the intrusion.

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Administrative note
Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:41:28 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings and Salutations!

Okay, I just learned something new about Majordomo (the mailing
list software) that I thought I should pass on to all of you.

Bert Creighton sent a message to the list requesting to be added
to the list of people that wanted Janelle's recently offered Minnesota set.
Majordomo bounced the message to me because when Bert used the words "add*me"
(without the asterick) the software thought he wanted to be added to the
Mailing List. Thus no one but me got the message. I have since forwarded the
message to Janelle, so you should be on her list now Bert 8-)

The moral of the story: If possible, try to avoid using the
words 'add' and 'me' directly after each other as the message will get
bounced.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set
Date: 08 Jul 1997 14:49:49 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote:

> This is what he sent me as a response...

> >Nobody else does this that I am aware of and I think $300.00 is a fair
> >price to pay if you're a serious collector of these pressed pennies.

This is, I suppose, the cruxt of the issue. If he's the
exclusive supplier, he can charge whatever he wants. I am curious,
however, how many sets he's sold at this price.

> >One more note, when the pennies are pressed through the machine, they are
> >completely flattened and imprinted with whatever character you desire.
> >There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on
> >the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new
> >pennies. Just curious...

I assume you informed him of the zinc content. If not, someone
should. Even if his prices are overly inflated those who pay deserve to
get a quality product.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: ENTROPYM@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set
Date: 08 Jul 1997 23:16:41 -0400 (EDT)

You would think that a guy this much into pressed pennies would know the
difference between pre-'82 and new pennies.
Should we enlighten him?

Mickey M

In a message dated 7/9/97 8:26:56 AM , Big Al wrote:

<< >One more note, when the pennies are pressed through the machine, they are
>completely flattened and imprinted with whatever character you desire.
>There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on
>the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new
>pennies. Just curious... >>

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Re: Disneyworld Pressed Pennies (fwd)
Date: 08 Jul 1997 22:25:31 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

Okay, for those of you interested in Big Al's Disney World set,
here is the reply he sent me. It all makes pretty good sense to me.
Bottom line: How many people here want to order these sets? We could
pool money and bring the price way down!

Peace,

Aahz

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Hi Chris,

Thanks for your message, I'm sorry if our fees are confusing but the
service charge only applies to merchandise requested by Disney fans. If it
is already on our web page with service fees, s&h included then that is the
price we are charging.

We have been on the internet providing our service since January of this
year. Since then, this is the most interest we have had in the pressed
pennies at Walt Disney World. We do NOT keep sets on hand just in case
someone wants a set. When someone wants a set, we go out and get them at
that time, so that answers your question about multiple sets and our price
of $300 ($1.50 per penny). That does not mean that if you want 2 or 3 sets
of pennies for yourself that we will charge you $300 for each set. In
fact, any additional set ordered with the first set will only cost the
price of the pennies or $102.50. (i.e., 3 sets of pennies = $505 or $.84
per penny). Basically our service fee for getting all 201 pennies is
$197.50 which includes the shipping & handling too. The more sets you
order at a time, the less cost per penny it will be!

The 201 pennies include duplicate characters but made from different
machines using different dies, hence, unique pennies. There are actually
only 120 different characters (at last count) available. So if you didn't
want the repeat characters, we would only charge $180 for the set.

I hope this answers some of your questions and if we can be of service to
you, please let us know...

Your Friend in the Parks,
Big Al

http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Another possible machine location
Date: 08 Jul 1997 22:54:13 -0700 (PDT)

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I saw another machine recently; I think it was inside the Liberty
Science Center here in New Jersey near the Liberty Island and Ellis
Island.

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set
Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:31:59 -0400

I did explain that if I was going to shell out $300 that it would have to
be pre-1982. I explained the zinc content information.

I agree -- if this guy had filled one order for 201 pennies, he would know
the difference.
- Jeff

>You would think that a guy this much into pressed pennies would know the
>difference between pre-'82 and new pennies.
>Should we enlighten him?
>
>Mickey M
>
>In a message dated 7/9/97 8:26:56 AM , Big Al wrote:
>
><< >One more note, when the pennies are pressed through the machine, they are
> >completely flattened and imprinted with whatever character you desire.
> >There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on
> >the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new
> >pennies. Just curious... >>
>
>
>
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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disneyworld Pressed Pennies (fwd)
Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:39:55 -0400

A very interesting point. I would like to purchase a set -- but I don't
want to spend $300.

What do other people think?

- Jeff

At 10:25 PM 7/8/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Greetings & Salutations!
>
> Okay, for those of you interested in Big Al's Disney World set,
>here is the reply he sent me. It all makes pretty good sense to me.
>Bottom line: How many people here want to order these sets? We could
>pool money and bring the price way down!
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
> Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
>The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
>List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
>"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
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>
>
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>Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:49:28 -0400
>From: Big Al & Pooh Too! <ramsayal@ix.netcom.com>
>To: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
>Subject: Re: Disneyworld Pressed Pennies
>
>Hi Chris,
>
>Thanks for your message, I'm sorry if our fees are confusing but the
>service charge only applies to merchandise requested by Disney fans. If it
>is already on our web page with service fees, s&h included then that is the
>price we are charging.
>
>We have been on the internet providing our service since January of this
>year. Since then, this is the most interest we have had in the pressed
>pennies at Walt Disney World. We do NOT keep sets on hand just in case
>someone wants a set. When someone wants a set, we go out and get them at
>that time, so that answers your question about multiple sets and our price
>of $300 ($1.50 per penny). That does not mean that if you want 2 or 3 sets
>of pennies for yourself that we will charge you $300 for each set. In
>fact, any additional set ordered with the first set will only cost the
>price of the pennies or $102.50. (i.e., 3 sets of pennies = $505 or $.84
>per penny). Basically our service fee for getting all 201 pennies is
>$197.50 which includes the shipping & handling too. The more sets you
>order at a time, the less cost per penny it will be!
>
>The 201 pennies include duplicate characters but made from different
>machines using different dies, hence, unique pennies. There are actually
>only 120 different characters (at last count) available. So if you didn't
>want the repeat characters, we would only charge $180 for the set.
>
>I hope this answers some of your questions and if we can be of service to
>you, please let us know...
>
>Your Friend in the Parks,
>Big Al
>
>http://www.netcom.com/~ramsayal/disney.html
>
>
>
>
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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 09 Jul 1997 08:57:18 -0500

Lets try to get a large order for these. If 10 of us order them the
total cost could get down to as low as $122.25 (102.50 for the set and
$19.75 or 1/10 the $197.50 shipping and handling charge). Sounds better
all the time. Put me down for a set.

Janelle

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From: Dresd85854@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set
Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:06:59 -0400 (EDT)

I have been getting a lot of postings regarding the WDW pennies and whether
or not they are pre-82. I am a newbie. What's the significance?
Thanks,
Mark

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set
Date: 09 Jul 1997 11:14:22 -0400

Hi Mark,

1982 and newer pennies contain a large amount of zinc. As a result, it
leaves a "silver sheen" across the penny.
On some penny presses, I haven't been able to tell the difference. But,
most of the time it's pretty easy to tell.

This "silver sheen" degrades from the look of the penny. It also makes
smaller details harder to see.

At first I thought it was a bit silly, but after pressing two pennies in a
machine I saw the difference immediately.

Try one of each next time you're at a machine. :)

- Jeff

P.S. Do you want to trade? I have pennies from the Boston area.
*shameless trade plug*

At 11:06 AM 7/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I have been getting a lot of postings regarding the WDW pennies and whether
>or not they are pre-82. I am a newbie. What's the significance?
>Thanks,
>Mark
>
>
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From: "Wayne D. Michael" <wayne.d.michael@boeing.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Disney World penny set
Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:29:01 -0700

Jeff Dixon wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> 1982 and newer pennies contain a large amount of zinc. As a result, it
> leaves a "silver sheen" across the penny.
> On some penny presses, I haven't been able to tell the difference. But,
> most of the time it's pretty easy to tell.
>
> This "silver sheen" degrades from the look of the penny. It also makes
> smaller details harder to see.
>

Even worse, that silver sheen you see will quickly turn an
ugly black.

How fast this happens depends on your climate. It could take
a few months to a few years.

--
Wayne Michael Boeing North American
wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave.
(714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA
M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803

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From: "Wayne D. Michael" <wayne.d.michael@boeing.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) questions about enlongated coins from Disney Land
Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:46:05 -0700

Hi,

I just wanted to give everyone an update, and to thank people for the
pointers to the Disneyland Pressed Penny guides.

I was going to try and update the list of the D. L. machine locations,
but David Tomita already has done an excellent job of this at:

URL:HERE

(He says his site is not ready for prime time yet, but it is already ten
times better than any list I would have made.)

I spent the last couple Friday evenings pushing my son's stroller
around pressing pennys (and nickels and quarters), while my wife and
daughter went on the rides.

These pressing machines are quite popular, and I frequently had to wait
in line to get to the machine I needed. I can understand why "Big Al"
has to charge so much for his Disney World set. (BTW. I would love to
have one of his Disney World sets, but my coin buying budget is far too
limited to allow for it...)


We make regular trips to D. L. , so if someone wants to arrange
for a trade, please contact me privately. I am extremely interested in
the limited edition or seasonal pressed coins from Disneyland.

--
Wayne Michael Boeing North American
wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave.
(714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA
M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT)

Okay, we've got three people lined up for the Disney World sets
right now. I'd like to get at least another three sets in the order to
help bring the price down. I know we've got some serious Disney fans on
the list. I'm also contacting a couple of people off-list. Let's use
the power of collective bargaining and get some financial savings as well
as information from the list! I'm about 99% positive that when we order
multiple sets at one time, Big Al will probably find a way to get us all
copper pennies.

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) questions about enlongated coins from Disney Land
Date: 09 Jul 1997 09:57:22 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Wayne D. Michael wrote:

> but David Tomita already has done an excellent job of this at:
>
> URL:HERE
>
> (He says his site is not ready for prime time yet, but it is already ten
> times better than any list I would have made.

This is great! The last update was iover a year ago.
>
> These pressing machines are quite popular, and I frequently had to wait
> in line to get to the machine I needed. I can understand why "Big Al"
> has to charge so much for his Disney World set.

My largest problem was that he didn't need to do that labor for
EVERY set. But this has been addressed, and that's why I'm not arguing
with the multiple set prices. Heck, I said I figured $200 was a fair
price, and we'll be getting them for less.

> (BTW. I would love to
> have one of his Disney World sets, but my coin buying budget is far too
> limited to allow for it...)
>
As you've read, the more people we sign up, the less they're
going to cost. If we get six (which I think is very doable), the price
is only 135.42. For 200 different specific elongates, this is a pretty
good price.

>
> We make regular trips to D. L. , so if someone wants to arrange
> for a trade, please contact me privately. I am extremely interested in
> the limited edition or seasonal pressed coins from Disneyland.

I've been hunting pretty hard for the Limited Edition DL issues.
If you find some somewhere, please let me know, and I'll do the same.

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 09 Jul 1997 10:48:23 -0700

Greetings Everyone,

I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al.

One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great
results on most of the Eurolink machines. There are a couple of older
designs (such as the one in the Main Street RR Station) that do show the
zinc smearing, but most of them work great with 96 coins. Eurolink also
supplies machines to WDW and I would guess many of them will look good on
new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best
results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines,
I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that
show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you
all think...

One last note... A power outage knocked out the machine my Smashed Coin
Locator site is on (4th of July through Monday morning). It is back up
and running now. Thanks to those of you that alerted me to the outage and
for your being patient. 8-)

Bert Creighton
<http://atlantis.austin.apple.com
/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html
>

On 7/9/97 9:47 AM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

>
> Okay, we've got three people lined up for the Disney World sets
>right now. I'd like to get at least another three sets in the order to
>help bring the price down. I know we've got some serious Disney fans on
>the list. I'm also contacting a couple of people off-list. Let's use
>the power of collective bargaining and get some financial savings as well
>as information from the list! I'm about 99% positive that when we order
>multiple sets at one time, Big Al will probably find a way to get us all
>copper pennies.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
> Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
>The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
>List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
>"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~
>
>
>

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Elongate Paint?
Date: 09 Jul 1997 13:46:48 -0400 (EDT)

Hi;

I have noticed that some of the pros use a die or paint of some kind to
"tint" the obverse of the coins that they use to make EC's. After the coin
has been elongated, the "flat side" shows the image of the original coin and
the date because of the "tinting". Could you share with me / us the way in
which this is done, and where the "paint" can be purchased? Of course, I'd
like to hear from readers what they think of this technique? Is it a plus in
your opinion?

Thanks,
-Bob Hoff
TEC # 2033

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 09 Jul 1997 13:45:07 -0400

What if we all supply pre-82 pennies? That way we're guaranteed to not have
any smearing. Big Al told me he'd knock money off if I supplied my own
pennies.

- Jeff

At 10:48 AM 7/9/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Greetings Everyone,
>
>I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al.
>
>One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great
>results on most of the Eurolink machines. There are a couple of older
>designs (such as the one in the Main Street RR Station) that do show the
>zinc smearing, but most of them work great with 96 coins. Eurolink also
>supplies machines to WDW and I would guess many of them will look good on
>new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best
>results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines,
>I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that
>show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you
>all think...
>
>One last note... A power outage knocked out the machine my Smashed Coin
>Locator site is on (4th of July through Monday morning). It is back up
>and running now. Thanks to those of you that alerted me to the outage and
>for your being patient. 8-)
>
>Bert Creighton
><http://atlantis.austin.apple.com
/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html
>>
>
>On 7/9/97 9:47 AM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote
>
>>
>> Okay, we've got three people lined up for the Disney World sets
>>right now. I'd like to get at least another three sets in the order to
>>help bring the price down. I know we've got some serious Disney fans on
>>the list. I'm also contacting a couple of people off-list. Let's use
>>the power of collective bargaining and get some financial savings as well
>>as information from the list! I'm about 99% positive that when we order
>>multiple sets at one time, Big Al will probably find a way to get us all
>>copper pennies.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Aahz
>>
>>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
>> Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
>>The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
>>List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
>>"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
>>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint?
Date: 09 Jul 1997 14:00:21 -0400

Depending on the design, it might detract from the detail of the penny.
For example, the Penguin penny at the Boston Aquarium
takes up most of the penny "face." I think it would cut into the design's
detail to have the year remain.

- Jeff

At 01:46 PM 7/9/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi;
>
>I have noticed that some of the pros use a die or paint of some kind to
>"tint" the obverse of the coins that they use to make EC's. After the coin
>has been elongated, the "flat side" shows the image of the original coin and
>the date because of the "tinting". Could you share with me / us the way in
>which this is done, and where the "paint" can be purchased? Of course, I'd
>like to hear from readers what they think of this technique? Is it a plus in
>your opinion?
>
>Thanks,
>-Bob Hoff
>TEC # 2033
>
>
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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 09 Jul 1997 17:23:41 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-09 16:10:59 EDT, you write:

> Lets try to get a large order for these. If 10 of us order them the
> total cost could get down to as low as $122.25 (102.50 for the set and
> $19.75 or 1/10 the $197.50 shipping and handling charge). Sounds better
> all the time. Put me down for a set.
>
> Janelle
>
>
I'd bite at $125.00 +/- on pre '82's would even go for the quarters and
nickels if he has 'um. Even if I was "on property", I'd pay that. Man, what
a job (unless you are rolling a pile of them at one time).

-Bob

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: (elongates) Mickey Mouse Elongated Coins
Date: 09 Jul 1997 17:59:19 -0700

Hey Gang!

There sure is a lot of Disney talk going around... If anyone is
interested, I still have a few dozen elongated cents, nickels, and
quarters that commemorate Mickey's 60th Birthday (from 1988).

Cents @ .50 ea.
Nickels @ .75 ea
Quarters @ 1.00 ea
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all three @ $2.00

Please include a Self Addressed STAMPED Envelope with any order, and
mail to:
William C. Massey
P.O. Box 1511,
Beltsville, MD 20705
--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

******** ****************** ******************

P.S.
Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint?
Date: 09 Jul 1997 18:15:42 -0700

R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi;
>
> I have noticed that some of the pros use a die or paint of some kind to
> "tint" the obverse of the coins that they use to make EC's. After the coin
> has been elongated, the "flat side" shows the image of the original coin and
> the date because of the "tinting". Could you share with me / us the way in
> which this is done, and where the "paint" can be purchased? Of course, I'd
> like to hear from readers what they think of this technique? Is it a plus in
> your opinion?

Perhaps I can shed a bit of light on this topic :)
The late, great, Frank Brazzell taught me this technique in the summer
of '94!
To produce an elongated with a shiny obverse, and a reverse that retains
the original coin's design: spray the shiny coins (on one side) with
"Deft" brand wood stain, and allow to dry. He liked to use Spanish
Walnut 621, or Fruitwood 641 to do the job. This type of Stain can be
purchased at most quality hardware stores.

The problem with this is that it is very difficult, if not impossible,
to tell which side of the coin will be the Obverse or Reverse of the
finished elongated when rolling with one of the "vending" type of
machines.

Another possibility (for retaining a good image on the reverse of the
elongated) is to use an old, brown, copper (pre-'82) cent and then use
a pencil eraser to clean the Obverse -- Ray Dillard told me about this
method.

Happy Rolling!

--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

******** ****************** ******************

P.S.
Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 09 Jul 1997 21:15:54 -0500

I will supply my pre82 pennies as well to Al. Now, a couple of
questions. Who wants to coordinate all this? Is any one even going to
dare tell him about putting the image side on the Lincoln side (yea
right! Who wants that job!!!) and who wants to be the "Big Al" of
California now?? One set from Florida deserves a matching set from
California don't you think?!! Come on, someone out there volunteer for
this job. Think how strong your arms would be if they are the type you
have to roll yourself. Really would like that full set also.

Janelle

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: (elongates) Steel...
Date: 09 Jul 1997 23:58:03 -0400

Hi all.

Just to add to Chris Aahz post awhile ago...

Tried 1943 steel cents in two machines in NH this past weekend; Mt.
Washington Auto Rd. and Conway Scenic Railroad. One was hand-cranked
and the other was automatic. Both came out fine. I noticed no
difference in the way the machines operated on steel or copper (pre '82)
pennies. I think the images are just a bit clearer on steel.

BTW, I have a couple of each on steel to trade... e-mail me if
interested.

Ben Lavine
mcsquare@erols.com

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Steel...
Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:24:32 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Mary C. and Ben L. wrote:

> Tried 1943 steel cents in two machines in NH this past weekend; Mt.
> Washington Auto Rd. and Conway Scenic Railroad. One was hand-cranked
> and the other was automatic. Both came out fine. I noticed no

Ben,

Did you happen to notice what company supplied the automatic
machine? Most newer Eurolink machines have a 'e' in the border either on
the top or at the left end.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:32:39 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al.

That's four! We're down to $151.88 and dropping!
>
> One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great
> results on most of the Eurolink machines.

I have seen it reported (although not confirmed myself, that the
zinc will begin to blacken with time. The longest I hav had any zinc
elongates is about 18 months and I haven't seen it happen yet, but
someone said that somewhere.

> new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best
> results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines,
> I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that
> show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you
> all think...

The key point is that we need to keep it simple. Big Al is not
an elongate collector (yet!), but a businessman. We need to try not to
overwhelm him with details, especially with the possibility of lines at
machines. I believe the majority would like pre-'82 pennies so that no
chances are taken. I have several rolls of BU pre-'82s that are
basically just as shiny as current coinage. I can probably get more as
they're readily available at coin shows and sometimes shops for just a
couple bucks each.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:35:02 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 R0BERTH0FF@aol.com wrote:

> I'd bite at $125.00 +/- on pre '82's would even go for the quarters and
> nickels if he has 'um. Even if I was "on property", I'd pay that. Man, what
> a job (unless you are rolling a pile of them at one time).

Well, if we count Bob in, we're down to $142.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint?
Date: 09 Jul 1997 22:43:49 -0700 (PDT)

Bob,

Thank you for asking this question. It has been on my mind as of
late as well.

Willy,

Thanx for your answer! Personally, I think Frank Brazzell rolled
the best looking coins I've seen, both front and back! I will be making
a trip to the local hardware store in the near future.

Jeff,

Typically, only the side of the coin that will not be imprinted
is coated. The obverse comes out with little remains of the penny and
the reverse comes out with a perfect image.

Someone addressed the question of which side gets the design on
automated machines. Each machine is internally consistent. So, roll a
test (non-coated) coin for your trade stock, making note of orientation
and then you know for that machine!

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 09 Jul 1997 23:05:29 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, James Henry wrote:

> I will supply my pre82 pennies as well to Al.

Jeff mentioned that Big Al would lower the price if pennies are
supplied. I assume the drop in expense would be $2.01 per set as this is
actual cost. This deal just keeps getting better!

> Now, a couple of
> questions. Who wants to coordinate all this?

Well, Jeff introduced the topic, but I'm not going to volunteer
him, he can do that himself if he's interested. I would be willing to do
it if he is not. Most of you have traded with me in the past, so that's
gotta be some kind of personal reference. I would be willing to locate
pre-82 coins for anyone not able to supply their own as well. I think
the best way to handle it is to send Big Al one cashiers check (as it
will obviously be large) and enough pre '82 pennies to roll them all,
then have him mail them all to one address. Then I (or whomever
coordinates this) would distribute the sets.
Just my opinion, others are welcome.

> Is any one even going to
> dare tell him about putting the image side on the Lincoln side (yea
> right! Who wants that job!!!)

This is probably too much to ask.

> and who wants to be the "Big Al" of
> California now?? One set from Florida deserves a matching set from
> California don't you think?!! Come on, someone out there volunteer for
> this job. Think how strong your arms would be if they are the type you
> have to roll yourself. Really would like that full set also.

Well, I know we have at least one subscriber that lives in the
area, but I'm not naming names, they know who they are and will volunteer
if they feel up to it.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint?
Date: 10 Jul 1997 02:20:57 -0700

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> Someone addressed the question of which side gets the design on
> automated machines. Each machine is internally consistent. So, roll a
> test (non-coated) coin for your trade stock, making note of orientation
> and then you know for that machine!
>

Please Note:
The above information is NOT always true! Perhaps it is for Eurolink
machines (I really don't know, firt hand), however, I have seen other
makes of machines where the coin drops onto a slide, and is then pushed
horizontaly between the rollers. On this type of machine, the coin
bounces onto the slide in an inconsistant fashion.

You know me, always throwing my "two cents worts" in!

--Willy

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint?
Date: 09 Jul 1997 23:29:27 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote:

> Chris Aahz wrote:
> >
> > Someone addressed the question of which side gets the design on
> > automated machines. Each machine is internally consistent. So, roll a
> > test (non-coated) coin for your trade stock, making note of orientation
> > and then you know for that machine!
> >
>
> Please Note:
> The above information is NOT always true! Perhaps it is for Eurolink
> machines (I really don't know, firt hand), however, I have seen other
> makes of machines where the coin drops onto a slide, and is then pushed
> horizontaly between the rollers. On this type of machine, the coin
> bounces onto the slide in an inconsistant fashion.

I stand (sit? type? glow?) corrected. My experience is with
Eurolink and San Francisco Penny Machine Company machines and have found
them to be internally consistent. I should have clarified this in my
previous post. Thanx for the warning Willy!

>
> You know me, always throwing my "two cents worts" in!
>

And what long cents they are 8-)

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: (elongates) Steel vs copper
Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:17:10 -0400

How much are steel pennies versus copper? It sounds like a fun idea to
press some pennies with steel.

- Jeff

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Steel...
Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:44:18 -0400

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Mary C. and Ben L. wrote:
>
> > Tried 1943 steel cents in two machines in NH this past weekend; Mt.
> > Washington Auto Rd. and Conway Scenic Railroad. One was hand-cranked
> > and the other was automatic. Both came out fine. I noticed no
>
> Ben,
>
> Did you happen to notice what company supplied the automatic
> machine? Most newer Eurolink machines have a 'e' in the border either on
> the top or at the left end.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
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Hi Chris,

Not sure but I'll check.

Ben

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:50:13 -0400

At 09:15 PM 7/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I will supply my pre82 pennies as well to Al. Now, a couple of
>questions. Who wants to coordinate all this?
[snip]

Sure! I'm crazy. I'm willing to coordinate the great "Big Al WDW penny
fest."
We currently have 5 people, right?

Before anyone sends me anything - send me e-mail.

Thanks,

- Jeff

Address:
Jeff Dixon
422 Mystic Ave #404
Somerville, MA 02145
jeffd@kurzweil.com

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:51:06 -0400

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:
>
> > I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al.
>
> That's four! We're down to $151.88 and dropping!
> >
> > One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great
> > results on most of the Eurolink machines.
>
> I have seen it reported (although not confirmed myself, that the
> zinc will begin to blacken with time. The longest I hav had any zinc
> elongates is about 18 months and I haven't seen it happen yet, but
> someone said that somewhere.
>
> > new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best
> > results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines,
> > I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that
> > show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you
> > all think...
>
> The key point is that we need to keep it simple. Big Al is not
> an elongate collector (yet!), but a businessman. We need to try not to
> overwhelm him with details, especially with the possibility of lines at
> machines. I believe the majority would like pre-'82 pennies so that no
> chances are taken. I have several rolls of BU pre-'82s that are
> basically just as shiny as current coinage. I can probably get more as
> they're readily available at coin shows and sometimes shops for just a
> couple bucks each.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
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Has anyone ever tried spraying the elongated coin with acrylic or some
such? Should keep ANY coin from tarnishing as sprayed-on plastic will
deny the metal any exposure to air which is neccesary for the chemical
reaction.

BTW climate will play a BIG role in tarnishing of both zinc and copper.
(And steel.)

Regards...

Ben Lavine

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Steel...
Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:56:04 -0400

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Mary C. and Ben L. wrote:
>
> > Tried 1943 steel cents in two machines in NH this past weekend; Mt.
> > Washington Auto Rd. and Conway Scenic Railroad. One was hand-cranked
> > and the other was automatic. Both came out fine. I noticed no
>
> Ben,
>
> Did you happen to notice what company supplied the automatic
> machine? Most newer Eurolink machines have a 'e' in the border either on
> the top or at the left end.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
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Hey Chris;

I have seen only pictures of the newer Eurolink machines. The machine
at the Conway Scenic Railroad seems to be an older machine. You will
probably be able to tell more from the coin than I can as I am a
relative newbie-neophyte to the details of elongated coins.

Give me a little time to peruse your trade list. I will hold one of
each for you.

C-U

Ben Lavine

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:10:21 -0400

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:
>
> > I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al.
>
> That's four! We're down to $151.88 and dropping!
> >
> > One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great
> > results on most of the Eurolink machines.
>
> I have seen it reported (although not confirmed myself, that the
> zinc will begin to blacken with time. The longest I hav had any zinc
> elongates is about 18 months and I haven't seen it happen yet, but
> someone said that somewhere.
>
> > new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best
> > results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines,
> > I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that
> > show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you
> > all think...
>
> The key point is that we need to keep it simple. Big Al is not
> an elongate collector (yet!), but a businessman. We need to try not to
> overwhelm him with details, especially with the possibility of lines at
> machines. I believe the majority would like pre-'82 pennies so that no
> chances are taken. I have several rolls of BU pre-'82s that are
> basically just as shiny as current coinage. I can probably get more as
> they're readily available at coin shows and sometimes shops for just a
> couple bucks each.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>
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Hi all...

For my two cents worth (Pun absolutely intended) I think you should fill in Big Al about
the pre-'82 pennies. Ask him to check on the availablity of BU pre-'82 rolled pennies.
Not that I'm 'Joe-Florida' but every time I've been there I've seen dozens of coin
shops. As stated, Big Al's a business guy and he can apparently hold his own with a
computer. So give him a chance.

Also, a thought on the quantity discount idea: How many complete sets of these would
turn efficiency into a logistical nightmare? 10 sets is over 1,000 pennies...

I ordered a pair of elongated quarters from Big Al. I'll post to the list when they
arrive...

Hey, has anyone ever tried silver quarters? I've never even SEEN a quarter press or I'd
try it myself... Silver quarters in poor condition still polish up pretty nicely!

Later...

Ben Lavine

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) Elongate Paint?
Date: 10 Jul 1997 10:08:46 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-10 02:42:44 EDT, you write:

> Perhaps I can shed a bit of light on this topic :)
> The late, great, Frank Brazzell taught me this technique in the summer
> of '94!
> To produce an elongated with a shiny obverse, and a reverse that retains
> the original coin's design: spray the shiny coins (on one side) with
> "Deft" brand wood stain, and allow to dry. He liked to use Spanish
> Walnut 621, or Fruitwood 641 to do the job. This type of Stain can be
> purchased at most quality hardware stores.
>
> The problem with this is that it is very difficult, if not impossible,
> to tell which side of the coin will be the Obverse or Reverse of the
> finished elongated when rolling with one of the "vending" type of
> machines.
>
> Another possibility (for retaining a good image on the reverse of the
> elongated) is to use an old, brown, copper (pre-'82) cent and then use
> a pencil eraser to clean the Obverse -- Ray Dillard told me about this
> method.
>
> Happy Rolling!
>
> --
> Elongatedly Yours,
>
> William C. Massey
> TEC #1857
>

Thank you William! I'm on the way to the hardware store!

-Bob Hoff
TEC # 2033

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From: R0BERTH0FF@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 10:08:53 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-07-10 03:30:36 EDT, you write:

> I will supply my pre82 pennies as well to Al. Now, a couple of
> questions. Who wants to coordinate all this? Is any one even going to
> dare tell him about putting the image side on the Lincoln side (yea
> right! Who wants that job!!!) and who wants to be the "Big Al" of
> California now?? One set from Florida deserves a matching set from
> California don't you think?!! Come on, someone out there volunteer for
> this job. Think how strong your arms would be if they are the type you
> have to roll yourself. Really would like that full set also.
>
> Janelle
>
>

Hi Janelle!

Hmmmmm I'm looking around my office for a volunteer as we speak. :-)
Problem at Disneyland as I see it is that the set is a "moving target", they
switch machines and add them often. Someone that wants a "complete set" may
be unhappy when they see one they don't have.

I'll be away from the PC and e-mail for a while, but, will get back to all.

Happy Collecting,
-Bob Hoff
TEC #2033

(ParkPennies.com note: The post above is when "Boomer " (Robert Hoff) volunteered to find a way to keep Disneyland collections complete and current. (What eventually became ParkPennies.com.) His machine location reports and Lotus / Excel file guide updates follow in later posts.)

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:11:04 -0700

Greetings,

Keeping it simple for Big is important, I'm all for the pre-82's and will
work on rounding up as many as possible. COME ON the rest of you, this is
a great opportunity to get a full set of great Eurolink designs! Tell
your friends that are not on this list...

THANKS to Jeff Dixon for putting this info up on Kathy's Bulletin Board!
Great idea!

(Note: Kathy has a message on the BBoard saying her email is having some
problems... I'm having some trouble getting updates to my web site as
well... bc)

One more idea, tell your Disney friends about the full WDW set, even if
they are not now coin collectors. There are lots of Disney sites on the
web! Let's get a few more WDW orders!

Bert

On 7/9/97 10:32 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

>
>On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:
>
>> I'm a big Disney fan and will join in for a set of coins from Big Al.
>
> That's four! We're down to $151.88 and dropping!
>>
>> One thought... at Disneyland I use 1996 (new shiny) pennies and get great
>> results on most of the Eurolink machines.
>
> I have seen it reported (although not confirmed myself, that the
>zinc will begin to blacken with time. The longest I hav had any zinc
>elongates is about 18 months and I haven't seen it happen yet, but
>someone said that somewhere.
>
>
>> new coins. If we all are paying the money, we want to get the best
>> results. Assuming the WDW machines work as well as Disneyland machines,
>> I'd be happy to get newer pennies (and pre-82's for any machines that
>> show smearing)... We'll probably need to keep this simple... What do you
>> all think...
>
> The key point is that we need to keep it simple. Big Al is not
>an elongate collector (yet!), but a businessman. We need to try not to
>overwhelm him with details, especially with the possibility of lines at
>machines. I believe the majority would like pre-'82 pennies so that no
>chances are taken. I have several rolls of BU pre-'82s that are
>basically just as shiny as current coinage. I can probably get more as
>they're readily available at coin shows and sometimes shops for just a
>couple bucks each.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) Southern CA "Big Al" + Possible Disney Meeting...
Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:19:50 -0700

Greetings Everyone!

On Kathy's BBoard <http://www.truewebdesign.com/MessageBoard/> I signed
up to roll coins in Southern California (San Diego, Disneyland...) and in
Hawaii (if you can wait a month or 2 in between trips).

I know there are others on this list that visit Disneyland on a regular
basis... Are you interested in a join collecting trip someday this summer
or perhaps after school starts again. It would be fun to meet other
collectors in person and trade some stories as well as pennies (and other
coins).

You can check the Smashed Coin Locator at:

<
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com
/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html>
More updates including a new WDW page and lots more Hawaii locations
will be posted to my site this week.

Bert

On 7/9/97 11:05 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

>> and who wants to be the "Big Al" of
>> California now?? One set from Florida deserves a matching set from
>> California don't you think?!! Come on, someone out there volunteer for
>> this job. Think how strong your arms would be if they are the type you
>> have to roll yourself. Really would like that full set also.
>
> Well, I know we have at least one subscriber that lives in the
>area, but I'm not naming names, they know who they are and will volunteer
>if they feel up to it.
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) "Steelies" The Real Story
Date: 10 Jul 1997 08:57:40 -0700

Greetings Once Again!

I have a friend that knows Eurolink machines! Here's the inside scoop on
steelies and Eurolink machines (this does not apply to all pressing
machines, so please use care and caution... These machines are someone's
business/income!!!)

On steelies, my friend says:

>...but steel pennies don't phase Eurolink machines. Eurolink dies
>are exceptionally hard so no problem. One caveat however; for a few years
>Eurolink had magnetic traps on the coin input system to trap super hard
ferrous coins.
>This would grab any ferrous coins before they entered the press so the
>"guest" would not get the pressed penny in this instance.

Adding traps was done mainly because the new Canadian pennies have a
ferrous content and it seems lots of Canadian pennies were going into
Eurolink machines -- this doesn't cause a problem to the press but makes
a badly sized pressed penny. Well, if enough of these pennies were
"grabbed" it eventually blocked the coin input. So off came the traps --
on most machines. There still could be a few machines out there with
these magnet traps. I saw a non-Eurolink machine in Hawaii last week that
had a magnet trap. So you really need to look and see if there's a magnet
trap before inserting your steelies.

[ Anyone have 201 steelies they can sell me? 8-) ]

If you 'steel' have questions, let me know.

Bert

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) Silver Quarters
Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:09:44 -0700

Ah, great minds think alike!

On the subject of silver quarters... I have tried them on Eurolink
machines and I got some amazing results. Easily my favorite coins in my
small collection. Use a good silver polish BEFORE pressing (smmashing,
rolling, elongating...) and you'll get the best results.

As with all coins, you should consult a coin pricing guide or coin shop.
I have found many bookstores carrying paperback (and hard cover) books on
coin prices. Be sure you are not smashing something of real numismatic
value.

So silver does work and has a wonderful finish (from the Eurolink's I
have tried).

I am looking for all the locations of Quarter machines (and all pressing
machines) to add to my Smashed Coin Locator pages (shameless plug).
Thanks to everyone that has sent locations, I hope the 'Locator' is of
use in planning your collecting trips...

Bert Creighton
Smashed Coin Locator
http://atlantis.austin.apple.com
/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote:

> Sure! I'm crazy. I'm willing to coordinate the great "Big Al WDW penny
> fest."
> We currently have 5 people, right?

Wonderful! By my count we have 4 and a maybe: Jeff, Janelle,
Chris, Bert, and (maybe) Bob.

It seems like we've got a few more questions for Big Al:

1) Would he prefer to ship to one address or to each (your
preference obviously relevant here also, Jeff)

2) Would he be willing/able to find a coin shop to get some BU
coppers for us

3) Price variations based on these two issues. If Big Al ships
'em all to Jeff, we each need to reimburse Jeff for postage to us. Not a
problem, just something we all need to be aware of.

4) Hmmm...I could of sworn there was a four.....

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:45:07 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> THANKS to Jeff Dixon for putting this info up on Kathy's Bulletin Board!
> Great idea!

Jeff's really on the ball here. Huzzah!
>
> (Note: Kathy has a message on the BBoard saying her email is having some
> problems... I'm having some trouble getting updates to my web site as
> well... bc)
>

Yes, list messages to Kathy have been bouncing back since
sometime last week. I have no other way to contact her (other than snail
mail) so have just been waiting things out. I have saved a couple of
messages from the list that I think may be of interest to her, (including
submissions for her FAQ), but am unable to save them all. Since she can
post to her Message Borad and did so after Jeff's posting regarding WDW I
assume she knows about it.

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland
Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:54:11 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> I know there are others on this list that visit Disneyland on a regular
> basis... Are you interested in a join collecting trip someday this summer
> or perhaps after school starts again. It would be fun to meet other
> collectors in person and trade some stories as well as pennies (and other
> coins).

Now THIS is great idea! We can have the first ever Elongated
Coin Mailing List Meet, Trade session, and Collection trip! I would LOVE
to put faces to some of these names. I'm in Northern California, so
could probably drive down for the weekend (How much is DL admission these
days?)

How many people would be interested/able to make a trip to Disneyland?

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 13:24:46 -0400

> 1) Would he prefer to ship to one address or to each (your
>preference obviously relevant here also, Jeff)

It doesn't matter to me either way. If some people have steel and some
don't, it might make more sense for him
to ship them all to me. That way, we can prevent people getting the wrong
sets.

If we limit the amount of things that Big Al has to remember per machine,
it should keep the amount of money he charges lower.

- Jeff

P.S. What if we tell him we'll give him free advertising on our web pages????

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Software Engineer
Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com
411 Waverley Oaks Road
Waltham, MA 02154

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland
Date: 10 Jul 1997 11:09:29 -0700

Greetings,

Some of us have Year Round Passes or Magic Kingdom Cards and can get some
discounted tickets.

There might also be a possible group rate we can arrange. Let's see how
many people would need to buy tickets (and many have passes) and go from
there. FYI, Saturdays are very busy from now until school starts again.
Not a problem unless you want to ride Pirates more than once in a day!

bc

On 7/10/97 9:54 AM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

>
>On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:
>
>> I know there are others on this list that visit Disneyland on a regular
>> basis... Are you interested in a join collecting trip someday this summer
>> or perhaps after school starts again. It would be fun to meet other
>> collectors in person and trade some stories as well as pennies (and other
>> coins).
>
>
> Now THIS is great idea! We can have the first ever Elongated
>Coin Mailing List Meet, Trade session, and Collection trip! I would LOVE
>to put faces to some of these names. I'm in Northern California, so
>could probably drive down for the weekend (How much is DL admission these
>days?)
>
> How many people would be interested/able to make a trip to Disneyland?
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) "Steelies" The Real Story
Date: 10 Jul 1997 14:52:10 -0400

Bert Creighton wrote:
>
> Greetings Once Again!
>
> I have a friend that knows Eurolink machines! Here's the inside scoop on
> steelies and Eurolink machines (this does not apply to all pressing
> machines, so please use care and caution... These machines are someone's
> business/income!!!)
>
> On steelies, my friend says:
>
> >...but steel pennies don't phase Eurolink machines. Eurolink dies
> >are exceptionally hard so no problem. One caveat however; for a few years
> >Eurolink had magnetic traps on the coin input system to trap super hard
> ferrous coins.
> >This would grab any ferrous coins before they entered the press so the
> >"guest" would not get the pressed penny in this instance.
>
> Adding traps was done mainly because the new Canadian pennies have a
> ferrous content and it seems lots of Canadian pennies were going into
> Eurolink machines -- this doesn't cause a problem to the press but makes
> a badly sized pressed penny. Well, if enough of these pennies were
> "grabbed" it eventually blocked the coin input. So off came the traps --
> on most machines. There still could be a few machines out there with
> these magnet traps. I saw a non-Eurolink machine in Hawaii last week that
> had a magnet trap. So you really need to look and see if there's a magnet
> trap before inserting your steelies.
>
> [ Anyone have 201 steelies they can sell me? 8-) ]

Hi Bert...

There is a coin shop in a neighboring town which has a box of steelies
loose. $.10 each. Might be a little steep ($20.10) but let me know if
you want me to pick some up for you. Lots of coin shops seem to have
circulated steel pennies.

Ben Lavine

> If you 'steel' have questions, let me know.
>
> Bert

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Steel vs copper
Date: 10 Jul 1997 14:56:24 -0400

Jeff Dixon wrote:
>
> How much are steel pennies versus copper? It sounds like a fun idea to
> press some pennies with steel.
>
> - Jeff
>
> -- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
> Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com
> Software Engineer
> Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com
> 411 Waverley Oaks Road
> Waltham, MA 02154

Jeff;

Just did some steelies in NH. They work really well. Nice detail.

Ben

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) "Steelies" The Real Story
Date: 10 Jul 1997 15:02:45 -0400

There is a place right down the street from where I work. I'll take a look
and compare prices.
.10 might be the best price. :(

[snip]
>There is a coin shop in a neighboring town which has a box of steelies
>loose. $.10 each. Might be a little steep ($20.10) but let me know if
>you want me to pick some up for you. Lots of coin shops seem to have
>circulated steel pennies.
>
>Ben Lavine

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Software Engineer
Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com
411 Waverley Oaks Road
Waltham, MA 02154

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From: "Wayne D. Michael" <wayne.d.michael@boeing.com>
Subject: (elongates) Proofs?
Date: 10 Jul 1997 13:21:29 -0700

With all the talk about steel, copper, and zinc, I was wondering if
anyone
has tried pressing a <gasp> proof cent? I have a hunch the result might
be
very pleasing.

There used to be dealers that would advertise rolls of proof singles(*),
but I can't find any in the recent coin mags I have. I can't remember
the
advertised prices, but I don't see why a proof cent should not be in the
0.50 to 1.00 range...

(*) Dealers break up proof sets all the time.

I am thinking about stopping by the local coin shop and seeing if he has
a few proof singles I could experiment with.

--
Wayne Michael Boeing North American
wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave.
(714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA
M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Proofs?
Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:27:52 -0400

I think I would only use proof pennies on very special ones. Otherwise, it
seems a little high for my collection.

Just my 0.02,
- Jeff :)

At 01:21 PM 7/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
>With all the talk about steel, copper, and zinc, I was wondering if
>anyone
>has tried pressing a <gasp> proof cent? I have a hunch the result might
>be
>very pleasing.
>
>There used to be dealers that would advertise rolls of proof singles(*),
>but I can't find any in the recent coin mags I have. I can't remember
>the
>advertised prices, but I don't see why a proof cent should not be in the
>0.50 to 1.00 range...
>
>(*) Dealers break up proof sets all the time.
>
>I am thinking about stopping by the local coin shop and seeing if he has
>a few proof singles I could experiment with.
>
>--
>Wayne Michael Boeing North American
>wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave.
>(714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA
>M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803
>
>
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Software Engineer
Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com
411 Waverley Oaks Road
Waltham, MA 02154

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Silver Quarters
Date: 10 Jul 1997 15:48:13 -0700

Hey Gang!
I would like to add to the SILVER Quarter topic:
Make sure that you examine the finished product VERY carefully before
going crazy, and rolling a whole bunch of the same die. I have found
that the silver doesn't flow well into some of the deeper-cut dies... so
check that first one!

However, please don't let my comment discourage you from giving it a
try. As Bert says, you may get "amazing results."

--Willy

Bert Creighton wrote:
>
> Ah, great minds think alike!
>
> On the subject of silver quarters... I have tried them on Eurolink
> machines and I got some amazing results. Easily my favorite coins in my
> small collection. Use a good silver polish BEFORE pressing (smmashing,
> rolling, elongating...) and you'll get the best results.
>
> As with all coins, you should consult a coin pricing guide or coin shop.
> I have found many bookstores carrying paperback (and hard cover) books on
> coin prices. Be sure you are not smashing something of real numismatic
> value.
>
> So silver does work and has a wonderful finish (from the Eurolink's I
> have tried).
>
> I am looking for all the locations of Quarter machines (and all pressing
> machines) to add to my Smashed Coin Locator pages (shameless plug).
> Thanks to everyone that has sent locations, I hope the 'Locator' is of
> use in planning your collecting trips...
>
> Bert Creighton
> Smashed Coin Locator
> http://atlantis.austin.apple.com
/people.pages/bcreighton/SmashedCoins.html

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Proofs?
Date: 10 Jul 1997 18:02:10 -0700

Hey Gang, here I go again :)

Rolling proof coins offer no real rewards. It is impossible to tell if
an elongated specimen was rolled from a proof, unless.... you prepare
the coin's obverse to preserve the "S" mintmark (using a date that the
Mint did not produce circulating "S" coins), and then roll that coin
with that side being the elongated's reverse. Otherwise, a nice UNC will
offer the same results.

In my previous comments about silver quarters, I forgot to mention that
the can usually be obtained from coin stores at around 3-4 times face
value.

--Willy

Wayne D. Michael wrote:
>
> With all the talk about steel, copper, and zinc, I was wondering if
> anyone
> has tried pressing a <gasp> proof cent? I have a hunch the result might
> be
> very pleasing.
>
> There used to be dealers that would advertise rolls of proof singles(*),
> but I can't find any in the recent coin mags I have. I can't remember
> the
> advertised prices, but I don't see why a proof cent should not be in the
> 0.50 to 1.00 range...
>
> (*) Dealers break up proof sets all the time.
>
> I am thinking about stopping by the local coin shop and seeing if he has
> a few proof singles I could experiment with.
>
> --
> Wayne Michael Boeing North American
> wayne.d.michael@boeing.com 3370 Miraloma Ave.
> (714) 762-8540 FAX 762-0528 Anaheim, CA
> M.C. DC28 Dept. 266 92803

--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

******** ****************** ******************

P.S.
Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

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From: Dresd85854@aol.com
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 19:32:53 -0400 (EDT)

If someone is going to get a set of Disneyland coins together. I would be
interested in a set of those also.
Mark

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Preserving Dates (was Re: Disney World penny set)
Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:16:21 -0400

Big Al wrote to Jeff Dixon:
[snip]
>There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on
>the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new
>pennies. Just curious...

A trick I leared from the Master, Ray Dillard, is to paint the coin
before you send it through the rollers. It is necessary only to paint
the side on the smooth roller, usually the obverse with the date. All
details of the original coin are preserved although stretched out. It
works with dirty coins too, but not as nice.

I usually use a wood-color or tan spray paint for copper coins and
silver paint for white coins. Apply one coat only, not too thin and not
too thick. Experience will tell you what is just right.

With automatic machines, it is tricky to get the painted side correctly
oriented. I ran across one machine in Norfolk that no matter which way
I put in the coin, the painted side was always toward the design
roller. You can usually figure it out though and get it right most of
the time.

Regards,

Bob Fritsch
TEC #1871
rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) WDW Pennies
Date: 10 Jul 1997 20:36:18 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Jeff Dixon wrote:

> It doesn't matter to me either way. If some people have steel and some
> don't, it might make more sense for him
> to ship them all to me. That way, we can prevent people getting the wrong
> sets.
>
> If we limit the amount of things that Big Al has to remember per machine,
> it should keep the amount of money he charges lower.
>
I agree with this wholeheartedly! I didn't realize people were
talking about getting this set on steel. Personally, I think pre-82s is
plenty to ask. When you're at the coins shop checking steelie prices why
don't you ask what he'd charge for 20 or so rolls of BU pre-82 cents. If
you can get them all locally at a fair price we can allsave a pretty
penny ;) on postage.

> P.S. What if we tell him we'll give him free advertising on our web pages????

This sounds good too! (Of course, my web page is totally blank
because I have no way to do anything with it, but....)

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Mgmears@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) Cleaning elongate pennies with toothpaste
Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:58:04 -0400 (EDT)

You mentioned using a pencil eraser to clean the obverse (or reverse, for
that matter) of a copper penny or elongated penny. To clean my elongate
pennies, I use a tiny dab of toothpaste and a toothbrush. Really! And
tartar-control toothpaste works best. (Ok, that last part was a joke.)

Mark Mears
TEC #1972

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From: "tink!!!" <dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland
Date: 10 Jul 1997 21:20:06 -0700

um, yeah, hi! i'm new to this list, but i've been collecting squished
pennies for a while now. thanks to aahz for inviting me. i'm mostly a
disneyland collector, not because i only want dl squishies, but because
i seem to live there...but i do have a few others. i've never thought
of trading these, as i kinda thought part of the collection was in the
hunting process;) but who knows, maybe i'll soften up to the idea...

anyways, i'm damn interested in a munch at dl (season passholder, and i
plan on using it as many times as possible!!!) a day of squishing
pennies with others who won't get bored sounds great to me! still have
to get that pennie from the train station...

-nikki

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland
Date: 10 Jul 1997 22:01:50 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, tink!!! wrote:

> um, yeah, hi! i'm new to this list, but i've been collecting squished
> pennies for a while now.

Welcome to the list!

> i seem to live there...but i do have a few others. i've never thought
> of trading these, as i kinda thought part of the collection was in the
> hunting process;) but who knows, maybe i'll soften up to the idea...

Believe me, there is still quite an element of the hunt in
trading as well! There are numerous coins that I know to exist that I
have not been able to find other than thru trades. Besides, elongated
coins have been made for over 100 years. That leaves thousands that
you'll never find a machine for.

>
> anyways, i'm damn interested in a munch at dl (season passholder, and i
> plan on using it as many times as possible!!!) a day of squishing
> pennies with others who won't get bored sounds great to me! still have
> to get that pennie from the train station...
>

Great! That's three! Any other interested parties? I'd like to
meet at least four or five of you if I'm going to put in 16 hours of driving!

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Quoting
Date: 10 Jul 1997 22:34:48 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings and Salutations!

A small item of netiquette has come up on the list that I feel
the need to address. That is quoting. When you reply to a message on
the list, please only quote the relevant part of the message you are
replying to. If for some reason your e-mail software will not allow you
to remove parts of the quotes, please post your comments ABOVE the quoted
message. I (and others) read nearly 100 messages a day. Having to go
through a reply that contains the entirety of one, two, or occaisonally
even three previous messages is VERY tedious.

Thank you for your time.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) San Diego Zoo elongates
Date: 10 Jul 1997 23:20:24 -0700 (PDT)

Found this in alt.disney.disneyland. Bert, are you paying
attention here?

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I hit the squished penny jackpot at the San Diego Zoo. Scotts been
witholding some very valuable info regarding this matter and should be
punished ;) The SD Zoo has a penny machine per exibit just about and 2
for the Pandas. The Polar Bears had a quarter machine to honor them.
Just thought I'd let those of you that collect know this.
The Zoo is also obviously where all the good merch. buyers work because
all the merchandise there is so great. In fact the big shop by the exit
has some wonderful Adventureland merch. What a great place to SPEND
MONEY. (Do you think we could slyly put an ad in the San Diego Union for
the DL Merch. Buyers Job?)
-- end of forwarded message --

Okay, I want a set! San Diego is your turf is it not Bert?

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) San Diego Zoo elongates
Date: 11 Jul 1997 00:01:12 -0700

On 7/10/97 11:20 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

> Okay, I want a set! San Diego is your turf is it not Bert?
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz

Greetings! Yes indeed, SD is my surf (ah... turf). I need to pick up a
couple of full sets... so if possible, please let me know in the next 10
days who else will want a set. I will need to find a source of pre-82's
(sound familiar?) to get the best results. I assume you also want the
cool Polar Bear quarter... yes?

You can send me email at creightoniii@home.com. One note, I will not be
reading email next week...

Take Care everyone...

bc

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) pre-82 Sources
Date: 11 Jul 1997 00:12:16 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings and Salutations!

A number of people have presented the dilemmna of where to find
coppers for rolling. Personally, I bought a 500 ct lot of wheaties from
eBay a while back. In addition I pick up rolls at $1-$2 a piece at
auction, shows, and shops. Best, of course, is gleaning them from
circulation! I never give pennies at shops anymore. Every night I sort
thru my pocket accumulation and pull out the coppers. The zincs I save
until I get REALLY desperate for cash (anyone else ever bought basic
groceries with pennies?). I manage to pull about ten coppers out of
circulation on a weekly basis (out of about 45 pennies).

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland
Date: 11 Jul 1997 00:52:31 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Bert Creighton wrote:

> there. FYI, Saturdays are very busy from now until school starts again.
> Not a problem unless you want to ride Pirates more than once in a day!
>

Are Sundays as bad as Saturdays? Actually, I was just looking at
the calendar and the first weekend I'll be free (after giving myself time
to earn the spare cash for the trip) would be Labor Day weekend. I
assume it will be a mob scene (doesn't bother me much, I hit the big
rides during the parades 8-). The weekend before that I'm commotted to a
local coin show, and the weekend before THAT (the 15th-16th) is a
possibility, but I couldn't possibly afford it before then (especially if
I'm going to buy a WDW set!). Do we have to do this in the summer?
Perhaps Sept. would be better?

Anyone else considering the trip, I'd love to hear your thoughts
on these issues. BTW, I posted the concept to Kathy's message board.
Perhaps I should post it in alt.disney.disneyland as well....hmmmm....

Peace,

Aahz

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Preserving Dates (was Re: Disney World penny set)
Date: 11 Jul 1997 02:47:03 -0700

> Big Al wrote to Jeff Dixon:

> [snip]
> >There is no way to tell what year the penny was made (the date is not on
> >the penny) unless you know of a difference between pre-1982 pennies and new
> >pennies. Just curious...

Bob Fritsch wrote:

> A trick I leared from the Master, Ray Dillard, is to paint the coin
> before you send it through the rollers. It is necessary only to paint
> the side on the smooth roller, usually the obverse with the date. All
> details of the original coin are preserved although stretched out. It
> works with dirty coins too, but not as nice.
>
> I usually use a wood-color or tan spray paint for copper coins and
> silver paint for white coins. Apply one coat only, not too thin and not
> too thick. Experience will tell you what is just right.
>
> With automatic machines, it is tricky to get the painted side correctly
> oriented. I ran across one machine in Norfolk that no matter which way
> I put in the coin, the painted side was always toward the design
> roller. You can usually figure it out though and get it right most of
> the time.

Willy now writes:

You are EXACTLY right, Bob! Albeit, a bit inspecific... Ray uses the
exact same spry-stain as the late Frank Brazzell (Deft brand - as
mentioned in my last reply to this topic).

--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Cleaning elongate pennies with toothpaste
Date: 11 Jul 1997 02:53:46 -0700

Mgmears@aol.com wrote:
>
> You mentioned using a pencil eraser to clean the obverse (or reverse, for
> that matter) of a copper penny or elongated penny. To clean my elongate
> pennies, I use a tiny dab of toothpaste and a toothbrush. Really! And
> tartar-control toothpaste works best. (Ok, that last part was a joke.)
>
> Mark Mears
> TEC #1972

Mark,
That sounds very interesting... Thanks! The eraser thing is actually
Ray Dillard's discovery. You may also wish to try Ketchup first, and
then baking soda applied with the toothbrush. It produces an
unbelievable shine!!! But do it in TWO steps--don't mix the ketchup
with the baking soda (trust me, this is AWESOME). I actually do it with
a rag, but I would have to think that a toothbrush would work just as
well.
--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

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P.S.
Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) pre 82 pennies
Date: 11 Jul 1997 06:48:24 -0500

I just go to the bank and get about $10 worth of pennies, go through
them and take back the rest and get more. Ususally, out of 1000 pennies
I get 200-300. No need to buy pre82 rolls if you want to spend just a
little time sorting them out.

Janelle (Minnesota Flats)

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) shining pennies
Date: 11 Jul 1997 07:53:18 -0500

God Bless Martha Stewart. She finally gave me something useful but not
what she intended. Use a shallow dish or pan. Cover it with pennies,
pre 82 of course, and cover them with lemon juice then pour a thin layer
of salt over it all. Wait a minute or two, flip the pennies over, cover
with a little more salt if necessary, wait and guess what??? rince with
water and shiny!!! Most of the time, no rubbing with toothbrush is
necessary.

Janelle (Minnesota Flats)

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) SD Zoo Pennies + Quarter
Date: 11 Jul 1997 09:44:14 -0700

Greetings,

Here's the list for a full set of San Diego Zoo pennies + the Polar Bear
Plunge Quarter:

Janelle <James Henry, jameshenry@sprintmail.com>

Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>

Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>

... <...>

I'll get a couple of extra for new people to the list...

bc

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From: "Mary C. and Ben L." <mcsquare@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) pre 82 pennies
Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:11:07 -0400

>
> Janelle (Minnesota Flats)

Hi Janelle... Is Minnesota Flats the pun I think it is? Very good.

Ben Lavine

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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: (elongates) Disney Ideas
Date: 11 Jul 1997 15:22:53 -0700

Hi Everyone,

I know someone in Disney Guest Relations and I am looking into what kinds
of things we might be able to set up for a group visit. This might
include a group rate for those needing passes, possible meeting with the
folks that work with the Eurolink machines, etc. Can anyone get us into
Club 33?

I'll get some possible ideas and put them up here on the mailing list.
One possible idea would be to meet at Beliles (I may have spelled this
wrong) for breakfast before going into the park. It was started in 1955,
the same year as Disneyland and they serve over-sized portions you won't
believe! It is only a few blocks from the park...

More info once I hear from Guest Relations...

Bert

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From: "tink!!!" <dvlgrl66hatesspam@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland
Date: 11 Jul 1997 17:52:47 -0700

> Are Sundays as bad as Saturdays? Actually, I was just looking at
> the calendar and the first weekend I'll be free (after giving myself
> time to earn the spare cash for the trip) would be Labor Day
> weekend. I assume it will be a mob scene (doesn't bother me much, I
> hit the big rides during the parades 8-). The weekend before that
> I'm commotted to a local coin show, and the weekend before THAT (the
> 15th-16th) is a possibility, but I couldn't possibly afford it
> before then (especially if I'm going to buy a WDW set!). Do we have
> to do this in the summer? Perhaps Sept. would be better?

september works great for me. i've got a birthday and a milion concerts
for july and august. yeah, unfortunately, labor day weekend will be
hell, but sunday is always better that saturday. sundays are the
'family' day, so around 6pm, the families start heading home, and the
park empties out rather nicely.

definitely post this in ADD. i'm sure there are others there that would
be interested...

-tink!!!
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) List meet @ Disneyland
Date: 11 Jul 1997 21:05:23 -0700 (PDT)

re: Bert's comments on meeting spot

Belile's (or whatever it's called sounds fine. I was wondering
about how we were all going to meet up. A couple weeks back I went to
Great America and was supposed to meet up with five and it was confusing to
get everybody to be at the same place at the same time. And we all not
only know what each other look like, but we know the park well!
Meeting at a restaraunt works well. The first one there can get
a table and others can just ask for 'The Penny Party' or some such.

re: Bert's comments on 'special stuff'

A meeting with a Eurolink rep would be AWESOME!!! Discounts are
of course, always a bonus as well 8-)

On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, tink!!! wrote:

> september works great for me. i've got a birthday and a milion concerts
> for july and august. yeah, unfortunately, labor day weekend will be
> hell, but sunday is always better that saturday. sundays are the
> 'family' day, so around 6pm, the families start heading home, and the
> park empties out rather nicely.

Okay, so we'll say mid-September....on a Sunday......how 'bout
the 14th? There is a coin show in Long Beach that weekend as well, so
anyone travelling some distance could attend the show on Saturday should
they so desire. (I always like to wound two birds with one stone when
possible 8-)

>
> definitely post this in ADD. i'm sure there are others there that would
> be interested...
>

I will post to to a.d.d. tonight with a tentative date of Sept. 14th.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) TEC Membership
Date: 11 Jul 1997 22:38:54 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings and Salutations!

From my (very rough) estimate, about half of you reading this are
TEC members, you can stop reading now.

For those of you who are not TEC members, I cannot recommend them
highly enough. Joining TEC was the first step in my collecting moving
from a here and there kind of thing with a half dozen samples from my
area, to a large collection containing issues from 27 of the 50 states
and two foriegn countries.

I;ve attempted to reproduce their membership flyer below. The
application is there as well, so if you're interested you can just print
it out and mail it in.

If you have any questions about TEC feel free to either post them
to the list for general comment or ask me directly via e-mail.

Peace,

Aahz

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THE ELONGATED COLLECTORS (TEC)

Duesfor one calendar year membership in TEC are $10.00 General;
$5.00 for a second membership at the same address and $5.00 for
Youth (under 18). Foreign Membership $12.50 per year.
Benefits of TEC membership include:

* 4 issues of the TEC News each year. Each issue ranges from 12
to 20 pages featuring informative articles, notices of new
issues, and more! Plus each issue contains a free elongated
coin donated by a member or club.
* You get to place a free classified ad in each issue of the TEC
News.
* You will receive an annual Membership Coin and a life-long TEC
membership number.
* If you write an article for the TEC News, you'll be awarded a
special TEC News Award Coin for each article you write. In
1996 only 26 of these collectors items were awarded.
* You can attend the annual meeting held in conjunction with the
ANA Convention.
* You also get the opportunity to purchase the limited edition
TEC-ANA Convention badge, rolled on a U.S. clad or enameled
silver quarter.
* You get all of this and Much, MUCH MORE!!!!!

______ ____________ ____________ ____________ ____________ ______________

The Elongated Collectors (TEC) -- Application

To apply, print this application and mail it (with dues) to:

Howard C. Sharkey
TEC Secretary
203 S. Gladiolus, Momence, IL 60954-1709
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THE ELONGATED COLLECTORS (TEC) APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP

NAME ______ ____________ ____________ ____________ ____________ __________

ADDRESS ______ ____________ ____________ ____________ ____________ _______

CITY ______ ____________ _________________STATE _______ZIP ______ ______

Years Collecting _____ Specialty ______ ____________ ____________ _______

Birthdate (Junior Members)______ ____________ ____________ ______________

I agree that upon admittance to membership, I will abide by the
Constitution and Bylaws of TEC and its Code of Ethics.

If you do not want your address published in TEC News check here _____

DATE______ _________ SIGNED______ ____________ ____________ ______________

TYPE of MEMBERSHIP: GENERAL: _________ SECOND: ________ YOUTH: ______

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FOR CLUB USE ONLY

Proposed by: ___Chris_Aahz_#2062______ ____________ ____________ _______

Admitted to membership (DATE) ______ _________ TEC Number ______ ______
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From: Bert Creighton <creightoniii@home.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) TEC Membership
Date: 12 Jul 1997 09:17:52 -0700

Greetings All,

I want to thank Aahz for posting the TEC Membership information. I joined
TEC (TEC#2095) and have been enjoying all the newsletters, and the coins
they have sent me. I encourage everyone to join (it is not expensive!)
and support the TEC. There are many collectors that do not have access to
email and the net, so being part of the TEC is another way to reach (and
be reached by) these folks with the same love for smashed (elongated,
squised, rolled, pressed) coins.

Bert

On 7/11/97 10:38 PM Chris Aahz (aahz@svpal.org ) wrote

> For those of you who are not TEC members, I cannot recommend them
>highly enough. Joining TEC was the first step in my collecting moving
>from a here and there kind of thing with a half dozen samples from my
>area, to a large collection containing issues from 27 of the 50 states
>and two foriegn countries.

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Top Ten List
Date: 12 Jul 1997 12:13:29 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

As I wander around the Bay Area sniffing the air for the scent of
rolling machines I often stop in places that I'm positive should have
machines, but don't. If you have experienced this as well, then perhaps
this project is for you. Below is my Top Ten List of Places That Should
Have Elongated Coins But Don't (as far as I know):

1) The Squished Penny Museum
2) The Trans-America Building
3) The Bay Bridge (there are old issues, but none current)
4) The White House
5) The Wooz on I-80 (It's a human maze)
6) Underwater World @ Pier 39
7) Ripley's Believe it or Not! (used to have one)
8) Airports (ALL of them!)
9) Capitol Buildings (ALL of them!)
10) The Elongated Coin Mailing List

Your thoughts, input, personal lists more then welcome!

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Pete Morelewicz <PMORELEW@hanley-wood.com>
Subject: (elongates) Top Ten List
Date: 13 Jul 1997 11:25:00 PDT

Below is my Top Ten List of Places That Should
Have Elongated Coins But Don't (as far as I know):

1) The Squished Penny Museum
2) The Trans-America Building
3) The Bay Bridge (there are old issues, but none current)
4) The White House
5) The Wooz on I-80 (It's a human maze)
6) Underwater World @ Pier 39
7) Ripley's Believe it or Not! (used to have one)
8) Airports (ALL of them!)
9) Capitol Buildings (ALL of them!)
10) The Elongated Coin Mailing List

Your thoughts, input, personal lists more then welcome!

Peace,

Aahz

Thanks, Aahz. Like we don't have enough of a complex about our inadequacies
already! Just for that, we'll make sure you're the last to get one <:)

the Squished Penny Museum folk

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Top Ten List
Date: 13 Jul 1997 16:48:42 -0700 (PDT)

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Pete Morelewicz wrote:

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> Thanks, Aahz. Like we don't have enough of a complex about our inadequacies
> already! Just for that, we'll make sure you're the last to get one <:)
>
> the Squished Penny Museum folk

<on bended knee> I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Sorry!!!<grovel, grovel>
Please don't punish me oh Exalted Keeper of the Squished Penny...I'll be
good from now on, I promise ;)

On a serious note...I've been checking around on prices and
Willy's got a GREAT deal for anyone who wants a custom coin rolled. By
far the best prices.
As soon as I scrape up some extra money for the list I intend to
have him roll the list's. Of course, if donations were available....
8-)

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) CCE?
Date: 13 Jul 1997 16:59:10 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

Has anyone heard of the CCE? I found a reference to it on an
older store card elongate I purchased. Also, COrey Wylde has been
advertising in TEC News to purchase a CCE membership card. This has
really got my curiosity piqued.

I believe I heard/read somewhere that there was once an elongated
coin club in California. Could this be it? Could it possibly still be
in existence and just hiding from my prying eyes? Inquiring minds want
to know!

Any info is, of course, greatly appreciated.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Roger Ingersoll <rogeri@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Top Ten List
Date: 14 Jul 1997 11:04:55 -0500 (CDT)

I have been lurking for a couple of weeks now learning more about this
hobby. I have been a very small collector of elongates for a while now.
Perhaps someone could forward a list of sources of people who can create
custom elongates. I have been thinking about doing some custom ones for
a few charities, but with the passing of Frank I have not known of any
other artist creating the dies for small groups.

Who is Willy? I guess I need to join the society huh?

Roger Ingersoll

> On a serious note...I've been checking around on prices and
> Willy's got a GREAT deal for anyone who wants a custom coin rolled. By
> far the best prices.

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Top Ten List
Date: 14 Jul 1997 09:24:21 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Roger Ingersoll wrote:

> Perhaps someone could forward a list of sources of people who can create
> custom elongates. I have been thinking about doing some custom ones for

I will post more info when I get home from work tonight, but
here's a couple names to tide you over:

Rocky Rockholt (RockyRockholt@msn.com)
&
Willy Massey (Massey@Clark.net)

>
> Who is Willy?

Willy is William C. Massey. You can check out his Luck "E" Penny
homepage at http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

Willy's a great guy and a quality roller. He's also on the list,
so probably will reply himself to let you know any more details you need.

> I guess I need to join the society huh?

For $10 a year, I wouldn't say it's a 'must', but it's definetly
worth far more.

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Pete Morelewicz <PMORELEW@hanley-wood.com>
Subject: (elongates) ANA convention
Date: 14 Jul 1997 13:37:00 PDT

Is anyone attending the ANA Convention in New York later this month? The SPM
will be lugging up our displays from D.C. and holding a reception to view our
new exhibit "The Open Road: Touring America Today", featuring about 150 or so
elongateds and related souvenirs from tourists stops around the U.S.

The reception will take place in the evening during the convention at a space
separate from the convention area (on Broadway to be exact). Which evening is
still up in the air as we want to see which night would draw the most folks.
So let me know...hope to see you there.

Pete,
Squished Penny
Museum

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention
Date: 14 Jul 1997 17:22:29 -0700

Hi Pete (and everyone else),
I'll be at the ANA! But only on Friday, Aug. 1st -- for the TEC
meeting!
I should be in N.Y. all day, but my ride leaves in the evening :(
Hope to meet a few of you there.
--Willy
--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

******** ****************** ******************

P.S.
Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

Pete Morelewicz wrote:
>
> Is anyone attending the ANA Convention in New York later this month? The SPM
> will be lugging up our displays from D.C. and holding a reception to view our
> new exhibit "The Open Road: Touring America Today", featuring about 150 or so
> elongateds and related souvenirs from tourists stops around the U.S.
>
> The reception will take place in the evening during the convention at a space
> separate from the convention area (on Broadway to be exact). Which evening is
> still up in the air as we want to see which night would draw the most folks.
> So let me know...hope to see you there.
>
> Pete,
> Squished Penny
> Museum

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention
Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:25:51 -0400

Pete Morelewicz wrote:
>
> Is anyone attending the ANA Convention in New York later this month? The SPM
> will be lugging up our displays from D.C. and holding a reception to view our
> new exhibit "The Open Road: Touring America Today", featuring about 150 or so
> elongateds and related souvenirs from tourists stops around the U.S.
>
> The reception will take place in the evening during the convention at a space
> separate from the convention area (on Broadway to be exact). Which evening is
> still up in the air as we want to see which night would draw the most folks.
> So let me know...hope to see you there.
>
> Pete,
> Squished Penny
> Museum

And I also shall be there. I'm going to the TAMS banquet (thurs?) and
the Saturday one, so that might leave Friday open (you know how time
gets swallowed up at these things). Look forward to seeing you. Will
you be hanging out at the TEC booth?

Bob Fritsch
rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: "Paul Richards" <stat@iu.net>
Subject: (elongates) New Idea: FLASHPOINT Auction
Date: 14 Jul 1997 22:34:11 -0400

Dear Listers,

Paul Richards here. Back from two weeks chasing around the country ...
it's good to be home. (By the way, the Internet Article is complete. I am
in the process of getting a draft on the Web for your comments.)

I would like to present an idea to the lists and get some opinions. The
idea involves coin auctions, but it is not your typical, garden-variety
auction. I call the new idea a FLASHPOINT auction.

In a normal auction, the price starts low and goes up. The price keeps
going up until one person is left standing. In a new FLASHPOINT auction,
the price starts high and goes down. The price keeps going down until one
person stands up to buy.

Do you see how this would work? Say I have a coin for sale. Say the coin
has a Red Book value of $100 and a Greysheet bid of $50. Usually, the coin
would sell somewhere between Red Book and Greysheet. The question is
"where?"

In a FLASHPOINT auction, the coin is first offered to everyone at $100. If
someone wants it, he or she buys it at the Red Book price of $100. If no
one wants it at that price, the coin is offered to everyone a second time
at $95. The process repeats until someone reaches his/her FLASHPOINT. At
that time, the buyer stands up and gets the coin at the FLASHPOINT price.
Neat, huh?

Without the Internet, this idea is impractical. But now, with Internet
technology, the idea is feasible.

I ran this idea past Paul Gold of Teletrade and Roy Latham of Computer
Graphics Systems Development Corporation. Both of these experts thought
the idea was quite novel, but difficult to implement due to detailed
problems with Web timing. If a coin cost $10,000, and milliseconds matter,
there could be trouble. But, for coins in the "working man" class, the
concept should be fine.

So, what do you think of this hair-brained scheme? I am interested in your
comments. Please e-mail to the list or to me directly: Paul Richards
stat@iu.net.

Since Kelly Anderson supports commercial transactions on his American Coin
listserv, Stat-Matics will run a small FLASHPOINT auction there shortly.
Here are the lots and their opening prices:

lot SQ four rolls of 1979-D BU cents for elongates, start at $8
lot CB 1850 Large Cent, F-12 not over-dark, start at $16
lot AA Constantine AE Follis, London Mint, Sol reverse, VF/XF, start at $44
lot BD 1828 Half Cent 13 Stars, F-15, start at $48
lot DT 1938-D/S Buffalo, PCGS MS-65 bright, start at $125
lot BR 1861 Indian Cent, NGC MS-64, full CN color (nice), start at $325

Each day at supper time (8:00 or so in Florida) an e-mail message will be
sent to the American Coin list with continually lower prices. To buy one
of the six lots, reply via e-mail and specify the lot you want.

The auction will continue until all coins are sold, or until I start losing
money big time, whichever comes first <g>.

Full 10-day, any-reason return priviledges apply. Postage and handling $3.

If this first experiment works well, Stat-Matics will establish a separate
e-mailing list for those who wish to participate in future FLASHPOINTS.

Thanks for your time and Happy collecting!

Paul Richards stat@iu.net
Stat-Matics http://www.cgsd.com/statmatics.html

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New Idea: FLASHPOINT Auction
Date: 14 Jul 1997 22:49:51 -0700

Questions:
What if more than one person has the same "Flashpoint"? Who gets it
then?
What is the advantage of this system over the norm?
What is the time-lapse between price droppings?

--Willy

Paul Richards wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Paul Richards here. Back from two weeks chasing around the country ...
> it's good to be home. (By the way, the Internet Article is complete. I am
> in the process of getting a draft on the Web for your comments.)
>
> I would like to present an idea to the lists and get some opinions. The
> idea involves coin auctions, but it is not your typical, garden-variety
> auction. I call the new idea a FLASHPOINT auction.
>
> In a normal auction, the price starts low and goes up. The price keeps
> going up until one person is left standing. In a new FLASHPOINT auction,
> the price starts high and goes down. The price keeps going down until one
> person stands up to buy.
>
> Do you see how this would work? Say I have a coin for sale. Say the coin
> has a Red Book value of $100 and a Greysheet bid of $50. Usually, the coin
> would sell somewhere between Red Book and Greysheet. The question is
> "where?"
>
> In a FLASHPOINT auction, the coin is first offered to everyone at $100. If
> someone wants it, he or she buys it at the Red Book price of $100. If no
> one wants it at that price, the coin is offered to everyone a second time
> at $95. The process repeats until someone reaches his/her FLASHPOINT. At
> that time, the buyer stands up and gets the coin at the FLASHPOINT price.
> Neat, huh?
>
> Without the Internet, this idea is impractical. But now, with Internet
> technology, the idea is feasible.
>
> I ran this idea past Paul Gold of Teletrade and Roy Latham of Computer
> Graphics Systems Development Corporation. Both of these experts thought
> the idea was quite novel, but difficult to implement due to detailed
> problems with Web timing. If a coin cost $10,000, and milliseconds matter,
> there could be trouble. But, for coins in the "working man" class, the
> concept should be fine.
>
> So, what do you think of this hair-brained scheme? I am interested in your
> comments. Please e-mail to the list or to me directly: Paul Richards
> stat@iu.net.
>
> Since Kelly Anderson supports commercial transactions on his American Coin
> listserv, Stat-Matics will run a small FLASHPOINT auction there shortly.
> Here are the lots and their opening prices:
>
> lot SQ four rolls of 1979-D BU cents for elongates, start at $8
> lot CB 1850 Large Cent, F-12 not over-dark, start at $16
> lot AA Constantine AE Follis, London Mint, Sol reverse, VF/XF, start at $44
> lot BD 1828 Half Cent 13 Stars, F-15, start at $48
> lot DT 1938-D/S Buffalo, PCGS MS-65 bright, start at $125
> lot BR 1861 Indian Cent, NGC MS-64, full CN color (nice), start at $325
>
> Each day at supper time (8:00 or so in Florida) an e-mail message will be
> sent to the American Coin list with continually lower prices. To buy one
> of the six lots, reply via e-mail and specify the lot you want.
>
> The auction will continue until all coins are sold, or until I start losing
> money big time, whichever comes first <g>.
>
> Full 10-day, any-reason return priviledges apply. Postage and handling $3.
>
> If this first experiment works well, Stat-Matics will establish a separate
> e-mailing list for those who wish to participate in future FLASHPOINTS.
>
> Thanks for your time and Happy collecting!
>
> Paul Richards stat@iu.net
> Stat-Matics http://www.cgsd.com/statmatics.html

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Re: Lord's Prayer info request
Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:04:20 -0700 (PDT)

> This letter is a reply to your recent inquiry regarding the Lord's
> Prayer
> on elongated cents. Further information on the subject can be found in
> "Encyclopedia of the Modern Elongate" by Angelo A. Rosato and in an article
> appearing in the April-May-June 1991 issue of "TEC News" published by The
> Elongated Collectors organization.

Does anybody out there have these references? If so, could you
possibly make photocopies of them for me? Please?

Peace,

Aahz

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Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Re: Lord's Prayer info request
Date: 15 Jul 1997 00:23:44 -0700

Don't let Rosoto hear you asking for photocopies of his book (whole or
in part)!
He's VERY ANAL about that!!!

--Willy

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> ....Does anybody out there have these references? If so, could you
> possibly make photocopies of them for me? Please?
>
> Peace,
>
> Aahz
>

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Rosato's Encyclopedia
Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:24:02 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, William C. Massey wrote:

> Don't let Rosoto hear you asking for photocopies of his book (whole or
> in part)!
> He's VERY ANAL about that!!!

Willy,

Not surprising from the impression I've gotten from his articles
and ads in TEC News, and the promo stuff he sends out.

But, he's not here, so I'm not worried. 8-) As soon as I have a
spare $129 I'm gonna buy his book. I just don't expect it to happen
until the price goes to $175 and then I'll have to wait even longer. <sigh>

Okay, here's the simple way to get around copyright issues,
although I'm sure Angelo would still complain, he would have no legal
grounds:

I am interested in Rosato's book, The Encylopedia of the Modern
Elongated. If anyone has a copy of this book, could you possibly review
it for me, especially the pages concerning the history of the Lord's
Prayer on Elongated Coins. BTW, my personal favorite type of review
includes heavy quoting so that I can get a feel for the authors style and
depth of content.

There, now it's legal. It is not a violation of copyright law to
quote a text in review. Then again, it is not illegal to make copies of
a text for personal use. So, if someone could let me borrow their
photocopies of the aforementioned sections I will promptly return them.

Peace,

Aahz

The copyright law fan.

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Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention
Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:27:48 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Pete Morelewicz wrote:

> The SPM
> will be lugging up our displays from D.C. and holding a reception to view our
> new exhibit "The Open Road: Touring America Today", featuring about 150 or so
> elongateds and related souvenirs from tourists stops around the U.S.

Pete,

I hope all goes well. Now I'm even MORE sad that I can't go! Be
sure to give us a report when you get back.

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) New Idea: FLASHPOINT Auction
Date: 14 Jul 1997 21:46:49 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Paul Richards wrote:

> auction. I call the new idea a FLASHPOINT auction.

Catchy name.
> Do you see how this would work?

I understand how it works, I don't understand the need for it.
What is the benefit (and to whom) of using Flashpoint over the
traditional auction format?

> Say I have a coin for sale. Say the coin
> has a Red Book value of $100 and a Greysheet bid of $50. Usually, the coin
> would sell somewhere between Red Book and Greysheet. The question is
> "where?"

I don't accept this premise. I believe that it holds true in a
standard one on one deal. But prices above 'book' are often realized in
auctions. That's the primary benefit to the seller. On the flip side,
the benefit to the buyer is that he/she/it can often find items well
below 'sheet' price.

> Without the Internet, this idea is impractical. But now, with Internet
> technology, the idea is feasible.

I really don't understand this statement. It seems far more
practical to use this system in a live auction then an internet auction.
Haven't you ever been at a live auction where the auctioneer starts the
bidding at say $100, no one bids. He then drops the open to $90, etc.
until either someone bids, he hits the reserve, or he just gives up. I
have experienced this seceral times and don't see where it differs from
Flashpoint.

> the idea was quite novel, but difficult to implement due to detailed
> problems with Web timing. If a coin cost $10,000, and milliseconds matter,
> there could be trouble. But, for coins in the "working man" class, the
> concept should be fine.

This seems like an elitist attitude to me. I get just as upset
when I lose a $20 item due to 'puter problems as anyone who loses a
$10,000 item. What does value have to do with it?

Peace,

Aahz

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From: ENTROPYM@aol.com
Subject: (elongates) I need WDW quarters.
Date: 15 Jul 1997 01:30:26 -0400 (EDT)

Fellow smashed, squashed and pressed coin enthusiasts.
Recently I traded a set of Disneyland Coins for some sets of Disney
World 25th aniversary quarters. Just now I discovered that there is a 13th
coin inside The Magic Kingdom that I don't have. All of the others are at the
resorts.
I would like to know if anyone would be able to pick up three of the
25th anniversary quarters with Mickey Mouse from the Magic Kingdom (not the
Contemporary).

Write me, we'll work something out.
Thanks,
Mickey M
"Cinnamon toast and tacos, por favor"

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) I need WDW quarters.
Date: 15 Jul 1997 00:42:46 -0700 (PDT)

On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 ENTROPYM@aol.com wrote:

> 25th anniversary quarters with Mickey Mouse from the Magic Kingdom (not the
> Contemporary).

I need one of these too! I also have the tewlve from the
resorts, but need this elusive 13th!

Peace,

Aahz

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Rollers
Date: 15 Jul 1997 01:15:46 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

Below is my current list of rollers. I would like to make this
list as complete as possible, so additions and/or corrections would be
more than appreciated. My intent is to put this in a file dedicated
to the list so that it can easily be retrieved by any who need it. As
soon as I learn how to manage this, it will be done. I believe Bert is
also including this information on his web page (The Smashed Coin Locator).
Please post any additions/corrections to the mailing list. I will update
the file and send it out as requested.

Here is the list I have compiled so far:

Rocky Rockholt E-Mail: RockyRockholt@msn.com
2678 Sumac Ridge
White Bear Lake, MN 5510-5646
(612) 777-9000
Sig: RR stacked in border at left or top of coin
(Longtime roller, TEC Director)

Luck E. Penny E-Mail: Massey@Clark.net
P.O. Box 1511
Beltsville, MD 20704-1511
(401) 937-7732
Contact: William C. Massey (Willy)
(Check out the Luck "E" Penny homepage at:
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm)
Sig: WCM in border at top or left of coin

Chicago Computer & Light, Inc.
5001 N. Lowell Ave.
Chicago, IL 60630-2610
(773) 283-2749
FAX (773) 283-9972
Contact: Larry Feit
Sig: CC&L in large letters at bottom of design
(Be sure to ask him about the Coinvelope!)

Ray Dillard
P.O. Box 61
Fenton, MI 48430
Sig: Cursive RWD in border at top or left of coin
(Rolls coins for just about every show he attends. Very active.)

The information on the following is a couple years old, so may no longer
be accurate:

James Kilcoyne
5274 Linton Road
Cadiz, KY 42211
(502) 924-5354
Sig: JK stacked in border at left or bottom of coin
(He kinda 'vanished' on me a couple months back)

Don A. Wilkinson
5700 Flagler St.
Metairie, LA 70003
Sig: DAW just within border near bottom of coin
(Not sure if he still rolls)

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On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Roger Ingersoll wrote:

> I have been lurking for a couple of weeks now learning more about this
> hobby. I have been a very small collector of elongates for a while now.
> Perhaps someone could forward a list of sources of people who can create
> custom elongates. I have been thinking about doing some custom ones for
> a few charities, but with the passing of Frank I have not known of any
> other artist creating the dies for small groups.
>
> Who is Willy? I guess I need to join the society huh?
>
> Roger Ingersoll
>
>
> > On a serious note...I've been checking around on prices and
> > Willy's got a GREAT deal for anyone who wants a custom coin rolled. By
> > far the best prices.
>
>
>
>
>
> | rogeri@netcom.com
> |\ Dallas, TX
> 8*<%%%%%%%%%|+>-===== =========== =========== =========== =============-- ---
> |/ Home of "Freemasonry on the Internet"
> | http://www.chrysalis.org/masonry/
>
>
>

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From: Pete Morelewicz <PMORELEW@hanley-wood.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention
Date: 15 Jul 1997 08:20:00 PDT

Okay, so it looks like Friday night. I will make plans to secure the space
for then. Also, can either of you (Bob or Willy) send an itinerary of
elongated-related happenings at the convention? It would be helpful to us
first-timers.
(And Willy, if you can't make it to the viewing on Friday,
perhaps we can do it before or after the convention.)

Pete
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And I also shall be there. I'm going to the TAMS banquet (thurs?) and
the Saturday one, so that might leave Friday open (you know how time
gets swallowed up at these things). Look forward to seeing you. Will
you be hanging out at the TEC booth?

Bob Fritsch
rfritsch@concentric.net

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Hi Pete (and everyone else),
I'll be at the ANA! But only on Friday, Aug. 1st -- for the TEC
meeting!

--Willy

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From: "William C. Massey" <massey@clark.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Rollers--correction
Date: 15 Jul 1997 14:02:55 -0700

Hi Gang,
Just for the record: My area code is (301)
--Willy

--
Elongatedly Yours,

William C. Massey
TEC #1857

******** ****************** ******************

P.S.
Please visit The LUCK "E" PENNY Home Page
http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm

Chris Aahz wrote:
>
> Greetings & Salutations!
>
> Below is my current list of rollers. I would like to make this
> list as complete as possible, so additions and/or corrections would be
> more than appreciated. My intent is to put this in a file dedicated
> to the list so that it can easily be retrieved by any who need it. As
> soon as I learn how to manage this, it will be done. I believe Bert is
> also including this information on his web page (The Smashed Coin Locator).
> Please post any additions/corrections to the mailing list. I will update
> the file and send it out as requested.
>
> Here is the list I have compiled so far:
>
> Rocky Rockholt E-Mail: RockyRockholt@msn.com
> 2678 Sumac Ridge
> White Bear Lake, MN 5510-5646
> (612) 777-9000
> Sig: RR stacked in border at left or top of coin
> (Longtime roller, TEC Director)
>
> Luck E. Penny E-Mail: Massey@Clark.net
> P.O. Box 1511
> Beltsville, MD 20704-1511
> (401) 937-7732
> Contact: William C. Massey (Willy)
> (Check out the Luck "E" Penny homepage at:
> http://www.clark.net/pub/massey/lep_home.htm)
> Sig: WCM in border at top or left of coin
>
> Chicago Computer & Light, Inc.
> 5001 N. Lowell Ave.
> Chicago, IL 60630-2610
> (773) 283-2749
> FAX (773) 283-9972
> Contact: Larry Feit
> Sig: CC&L in large letters at bottom of design
> (Be sure to ask him about the Coinvelope!)
>
> Ray Dillard
> P.O. Box 61
> Fenton, MI 48430
> Sig: Cursive RWD in border at top or left of coin
> (Rolls coins for just about every show he attends. Very active.)
>
> The information on the following is a couple years old, so may no longer
> be accurate:
>
> James Kilcoyne
> 5274 Linton Road
> Cadiz, KY 42211
> (502) 924-5354
> Sig: JK stacked in border at left or bottom of coin
> (He kinda 'vanished' on me a couple months back)
>
> Don A. Wilkinson
> 5700 Flagler St.
> Metairie, LA 70003
> Sig: DAW just within border near bottom of coin
> (Not sure if he still rolls)
>
>
> ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
> Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
> The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
> List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
> "Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
> ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~
>
> On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Roger Ingersoll wrote:
>
> > I have been lurking for a couple of weeks now learning more about this
> > hobby. I have been a very small collector of elongates for a while now.
> > Perhaps someone could forward a list of sources of people who can create
> > custom elongates. I have been thinking about doing some custom ones for
> > a few charities, but with the passing of Frank I have not known of any
> > other artist creating the dies for small groups.
> >
> > Who is Willy? I guess I need to join the society huh?
> >
> > Roger Ingersoll
> >
> >
> > > On a serious note...I've been checking around on prices and
> > > Willy's got a GREAT deal for anyone who wants a custom coin rolled. By
> > > far the best prices.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > | rogeri@netcom.com
> > |\ Dallas, TX
> > 8*<%%%%%%%%%|+>-===== =========== =========== =========== =============-- ---
> > |/ Home of "Freemasonry on the Internet"
> > | http://www.chrysalis.org/masonry/
> >
> >
> >

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From: "Paul Richards" <stat@iu.net>
Subject: (elongates) Chinese/Dutch Auction
Date: 16 Jul 1997 07:58:04 -0400

Boy, you guys sure let me have it on my FLASHPOINT idea. Two out of three
of your comments were negative ... some VERY negative. I also got one
message from the spam patrol.

Anyway, for the one-third of you who liked the idea, I still plan on trying
it out on the ACoin list with the lots presented previously.

I will retain the name FLASHPOINT, since the "Dutch" and "Chinese" names
are derogatory. Also, as Chris Aahz points out, a regular auction
generally favors the seller, especially in a bidding war. A flashpoint
auction, which operates in reverse, should favor the buyer.

Paul Richards stat@iu.net
Stat-Matics http://www.cgsd.com/statmatics.html

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) rolls of uncirculated Lincoln pennies
Date: 16 Jul 1997 08:10:29 -0500

I place I buy regular pennies from has a list inside its current booklet
that has pre82 roll of pennies for sale. I mention this especially for
those who are in on this idea of getting a full set of pennies from Big
Al from Disney World. I ordered 5 rolls and am having them sent
directly to Pete so we can get going on this order before Big Al gets
too wise and ups his price on us.

Here is a list of the rolls (pre82) that are available and the price per
roll
1942s 140
1943s 75
1947s 18.50
1948s 20
1949s 45
1954 7.75
1958D 3.25
1960 1.50
1961 1.50
1962 1.50
1963 1.50
1965 1.50
1966 2.25
1967 1.75
1968D 1.50
1969D 1.50
1969s 2.50
1970D 1.95
1970s 2.25
1971 6.95
1971D 3.50
1972 1.95
1972D 1.95
1973 1.50
1973D 1.25 (my choice)
1973s 2
1974 1.50
1974D 1.50
1975 1.75
1975D 1.75
1976 1.75
1976D 2.75
1977 2
1979D 1.50
1980D 1.50
1981 1.50
1981D 1.25 (another choice for the price)
1982D copper 1.75

The address of the place is Tipsico Coin
2141 Broadway
P.O. Box 1128
North Bend-on-Coos Bay, Oregon 97459

1-541-756-7111

I have done business with them for several years. The shipping for $10
to $50 is $2.95 (minimum order is $10) and having mine sent directly to
Pete. I really want to get this done so Big Al doesn't wise up.

Janelle (Minnesota Flats)

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) rolls of uncirculated Lincoln pennies
Date: 16 Jul 1997 09:39:12 -0400

You mean Jeff, right?

- Jeff
At 08:10 AM 7/16/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I place I buy regular pennies from has a list inside its current booklet
>that has pre82 roll of pennies for sale. I mention this especially for
>those who are in on this idea of getting a full set of pennies from Big
>Al from Disney World. I ordered 5 rolls and am having them sent
>directly to Pete so we can get going on this order before Big Al gets
>too wise and ups his price on us.
>
>Here is a list of the rolls (pre82) that are available and the price per
>roll
[snip]
>Janelle (Minnesota Flats)
>
>
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Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com
Software Engineer
Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com
411 Waverley Oaks Road
Waltham, MA 02154

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From: James Henry <jameshenry@sprintmail.com>
Subject: (elongates) Jeff
Date: 16 Jul 1997 09:13:33 -0500

I SENT THE ROLLS TO JEFF!!!! SORRY!!!!

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From: Jeff Dixon <jeffd@kurzweil.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Jeff
Date: 16 Jul 1997 10:30:25 -0400

No biggie. I just didn't want Pete to get a bunch of pennies - unless he
likes to get random packs of pre-rolled pennies in the mail. :)

- Jeff
At 09:13 AM 7/16/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I SENT THE ROLLS TO JEFF!!!! SORRY!!!!
>
>
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Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com
Software Engineer
Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com
411 Waverley Oaks Road
Waltham, MA 02154

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From: Pete Morelewicz <PMORELEW@hanley-wood.com>
Subject: Re: (elongates) rolls of uncirculated Li
Date: 16 Jul 1997 13:59:00 PDT

Ooops. I didn't read the other messages before sending mine. Sorry Bert. But
hey, if you get a bunch of rolls in the mail, too, you hafta split the profit
with me, okay?

Pete

You mean Jeff, right?

- Jeff

At 08:10 AM 7/16/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I place I buy regular pennies from has a list inside its current booklet
>that has pre82 roll of pennies for sale. I mention this especially for
>those who are in on this idea of getting a full set of pennies from Big
>Al from Disney World. I ordered 5 rolls and am having them sent
>directly to Pete so we can get going on this order before Big Al gets
>too wise and ups his price on us.
>
>Here is a list of the rolls (pre82) that are available and the price per
>roll
[snip]
>Janelle (Minnesota Flats)
>
>
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Jeff Dixon jeffd@kurzweil.com
Software Engineer
Kurzweil Applied Intelligence http://www.kurzweil.com
411 Waverley Oaks Road
Waltham, MA 02154

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From: Pete Morelewicz <PMORELEW@hanley-wood.com>
Subject: (elongates) rolls of uncirculated Lincol
Date: 16 Jul 1997 13:54:00 PDT

Since I haven't seen any other Petes on the elongate list, is the Pete being
referred to me? I hope not. Just in case though, the WDW crew should not send
their rolls to Pete in D.C. I believe Bert is the point man for that, no?

-Pete

______ ____________ _______

I ordered 5 rolls and am having them sent
directly to Pete so we can get going on this order before Big Al gets
too wise and ups his price on us.

having mine sent directly to
Pete. I really want to get this done so Big Al doesn't wise up.

Janelle (Minnesota Flats)

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Rollers
Date: 16 Jul 1997 21:44:53 -0400

> Don A. Wilkinson
> 5700 Flagler St.
> Metairie, LA 70003
> Sig: DAW just within border near bottom of coin
> (Not sure if he still rolls)

Don has been very sick the past few years. Saw him at ANA Detroit 94
but not at Denver 96. He is a super genteleman who has the passion for
this branch of the hobby. He always used to drift into the TEC Booth
with the line, "Is this where they make them squashed pennies?" [done is
a Southern drawl].

Bob Fritsch

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From: Bob Fritsch <rfritsch@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention
Date: 16 Jul 1997 22:10:45 -0400

Pete Morelewicz wrote:
>
> Okay, so it looks like Friday night. I will make plans to secure the space
> for then. Also, can either of you (Bob or Willy) send an itinerary of
> elongated-related happenings at the convention? It would be helpful to us
> first-timers.

ONGOING: TEC Booth, starring Ray Dillard's machine and a ton of fun.
If you have time stop by and help Ray run the booth. It's the funnest
hours you will have at any ANA.

FRI 1 AUG 97 8AM: TEC Board Meeting. Interesting because it shows how
the club is run and how decisions are made.

SAME 9AM: TEC Membership Meeting: Not to be missed. TEC is a great
group and the meeting proves it. Find out for yourself.

Check the Convention issues of *Numismatic News* and *Coin World* before
you arrive. Find all the dealers who offer freebies (elongates
especially) and note their table numbers. Do a fast cruise of the
bourse finding these tables and scoop up the goodies. Keep an eye out
for unadvertised give-aways.

One thing I like to do is to go through the "Mint Mile" which features
mints from around the world (somewhere around 26 in Denver, maybe more
this year). Get their free coin (purchase of a "passport" is required
at the ANA Money Market booth) then go to the TEC booth and squash them
with the show theme. Don't forget to paint them first; Ray always has a
can of spray paint handy. BEWARE that many countries consider this
activity illegal so don't tell them. Afterwards, go back to the Mint
Mile with your empty passport and fill it.

See you in New York!

Bob Fritsch
rfritsch@concentric.net

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) Rollers
Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:15:29 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote:

> Don has been very sick the past few years. Saw him at ANA Detroit 94
> but not at Denver 96.

This is very sad. It seems we are quickly losing many of the
people who really mad elongates a viable colecting category. I can only
hope there are people to follow in their footsteps. I know no one will
be able to fill their shoes.

I will remove Don from my list until I hear otherwise.

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: Re: (elongates) ANA convention
Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:23:02 -0700 (PDT)

On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Bob Fritsch wrote:

> One thing I like to do is to go through the "Mint Mile" which features
<snip>
> Mile with your empty passport and fill it.
>

This is an awesome idea!! I don't suppose anyone could find the
time to make up one of these sets for me? I'll give generous trade
credit for the coins and even pay for your passport!

> See you in New York!

This is driving me crazy! The more I hear about the show the
more I want to go. It's a good thing I don't have a credit card, or I'd
probably just say "To Hell with it" and make the trip, putting myself in
a world of financial hurt.

I get the feeling that with the mention of freebies, this world
coin set idea, and the fact that the whole thing will be full of dealers
anyway, I'm gonna need to seriously boost up my trade list before the
first week of August!

Peace,

Aahz

<who is praying that next year's ANA will be in San Francisco>

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~

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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) Disneyland Meet
Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:39:26 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

Okay, it's been several days without mention and we've got a few
new subscribers, so I'm bringing it up again. (Okay, I'm just bringing it
up again because I'm REALLy excited about it, but anywayz...)

The Elongated Coin Mailing List will be having its first ever
meet/trade session at Disneyland on Sunday, September 7th (tentative
date). The plan is very loose at the moment, but we're hoping to meet at
a nearby restaraunt in the morning for breakfast, spend the day in the
park enjoying ourselves and collecting Disney elongate sets, possibly
meet with someone who works on the Eurolink machines so we can learn more
about the machines that do all the hard work for our hobby, and at some
point in all this, trade elongates!

Of course, the biggest highlight (for me at least) is getting to meet
fellow collectors and put faces to some of the names on the list. I will
be driving down from the San Francisco Bay Area, and intend to collect
elongates along the way.

So, who's interested? If the dates a problem, let us know, we
can work on it. If the cost of admission is a problem, we're working on
getting discount passes. If the problem is that it just doesn't sound
like fun spending a day at Disneyland with fellow collectors, then I
think you may be subscribed to the wrong list ;)

Peace,

Aahz

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Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
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From: Chris Aahz <aahz@svpal.org>
Subject: (elongates) WDW sets
Date: 16 Jul 1997 20:41:36 -0700 (PDT)

Greetings & Salutations!

What's the status oon the mas WDW set purchase? How many people
do we have and what's the current price? Is anyone else interested, or
are we ready to get this thing moving?

Haven't heard in a while, so I'm just asking.

Peace,

Aahz

~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~~Chris Aahz~<Aahz@svpal.org>~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~ ~ ~~
Courier, Vampire Hunter, Non-Violent Activist
The Elongated Collector (TEC) #2062 exCoinMasters #182 RPGA #152668
List-owner: The Elongated Coin Mailing List (elongates@xmission.com)
"Fight War Not Wars" - Crass "Playing is Just a Way to Dream" - WHATT
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