DL0251DNRsc Steel Cent Main Street USA Pressed Penny prototype backstamp DL0251DNR Horizontal prototype elongated coin backstamp image. [Reverse] DISNEYLAND no ® repeated four times in a "dot matrix print
style". This is a Disneyland Neverland reverse (DNR), steel cent variation (sc) on a DL0251 die coin. Image courtesy of
the N. Wooten Collection.
In keeping with the Disney tradition of providing a better quality souvenir, in 2004, Disneyland introduced the DL0251 back stamped nickel. With this introduction, Disneyland became the first Disney Park to ever offer two sided elongated coins, also known as "Mules". This coin appears to be evidence of early experiments with varied "back dies", "back shafts" or "backstamp" engravings with its DL0251DNR reverse. Larger prototype elongated coin image in frame or window # 123
DS0008DNr Electro Mechanical
Never Issued Reverse. DS0008DNr Horizontal pressed nickel backstamp or reverse. MERRY CHRISTMAS in script, KEN, GEORGE, EVERETT,
KATHIE, GLENN, ROB, BOYD, DAVID, JEFF, RODELIO,
LAURA, DANNY, STEPH, ROGER in
animation block typeface, FROM ALL OF US.
Note: This elongated coin die combination, obverse / reverse, is listed as a prototype vs. test roll / Neverland backstamp because the coin would have been issued as engraved if not for the needed last minute addition of names. We do not feel this backstamp was experimental, a test, or a "progressive pressing".
View updated DS0008DNr backstamp including Mike and Rod.
Prototype "Floating D" floating over the dot border and the Onstage "Large D" touching the dot border 60th Diamond Celebration backstamps. Pressed quarter shown, cent is similar.
Which pressed coins are included in this guide? To be included in this "DN", Disneyland Neverland Guide, the elongated coin die designs used to press a coin, planchet, or token must have been authorized, licensed, or otherwise ordered to be engraved for the benefit of the Disneyland Resort. However, unlike elongated coins listed in all other ParkPennies guides, DN Guide prototype / pattern pressed coins must never have been officially released or issued to the public or given to Cast Members other than as prototypes, patterns / samples.
Why didn't Disney place these coins onstage? Detective work, ParkPennies visitor emails and interviews with trusted sources by Robert Hoff of ParkPennies.com support rumors that some coin dies were engraved only for use as prototypes to test a concept or design. Other coin dies were intended for the stage, that is, for pubic issue, but could not be used as intended because of minor artwork or design oversights, incompatible die / machine types, engraving that didn't translate from the original art, die failure during early testing, and on occasion because needed machine placement locations became unavailable or unsuitable. In short, these dies did not find fame onstage at Disneyland. But, they have often found fame here in the world of Disney elongated coin collecting.
Off-denomination pressed coins or "non-native" pressed coins are often scarce and usually very sought after. However, because
"coin" listings are really listings of the individual coin dies that were used to press the coins, off-denomination coin variations such as nickels, pressed dimes, pressed quarters, arcade tokens, etc. that were pressed in place of the "native" penny are only listed as prototypes unless they were pressed on prototype coin dies.
Most of the known off-denomination variations of Disney pressed coins, are not currently listed. However, we hope to add them to our collection guides in the future. Collectors needing guide numbers for "non-native" coins today, need only add a suffix of N, D, Q, T, etc. for Nickel, Dime, Quarter, Token, to the standard guide number, e.g. DN0019P for cataloging / trading purposes.
And of course, if possible, please do send a scan of any denominational variations not already listed for inclusion in future guide updates.
Coin submissions and Rumored coins are received by us sometimes anony-mousely now and then and we both appreciate and value these reports. However, we need to have a good scan or see the actual coin, attribute appropriate provenance, and in some cases, secure permission from the image / coin owner before the coins can be verified and fully listed in the guides. Some poor quality scans collected over the years from eBay auctions etc. have been used. We were unable to determine the image owner of one or two images. We hope the current coin owners will contact us so we may obtain a better image and give them proper credit. So, if you emailed us an anony-mouse report, and the coin currently has "rumored" status, it's nothing personal. We agree the coin is probably out there somewhere, it's just that need a bit more information for the coin to be fully vetted and listed correctly.
If you are considering the acquisition of an unlisted coin believed to be a "DN" prototype? Please contact us to inquire if your coin is already known by us, if it has a reserved / rumored coin guide number , or possibly help us confirm the provenance of your coin for listing in this guide.
Guide numbering is not yet 100% definitive. (This is my way of saying it's a mess. :-) We're thinking a pencil might be a better choice than a pen when numbering your coin holders with the current guide numbers. After our extensive 9/2015 DN Guide re-write the completeness of the guide from the beginning of time to around 2013 is very good... maybe even definitive. But, please keep in mind prototype coins by nature, even with the help of the many generous ParkPennies.com contributors, are still often reported / found in a haphazard hit and miss order. They are sometimes discovered long (like decades, not days) after they were first pressed and therefore cannot be added to the guides in as orderly a way as onstage coins are. So, to keep this very exclusive and challenging group of prototype elongated coins in conformity with our other chronologically ordered guides, we may have to add / renumber some coins within the existing DN guide in the future. If / when "reserved spaces" are inadequate, new numbers may be added between existing numbers with a . (dot) extension to maintain chronological order and avoid the inconvenience of reordering collection pages if / when more permanent numbers can be assigned, e.g. DN0001.1. Old timers will recall that this is the way the first Disneyland Guide was initially drafted in the mid 1990's.
Estimates of the number of coins known to be in the hands of collectors are based on coins known by ParkPennies.com to have been sold, traded, seen or reported by trusted sources. Readers are advised that not all coins are held by "known collectors". Also, some coins may be counted twice as they pass through the hands of different collectors and previously unreported caches of coins can surface. Die status, that is, whether or not the original unmodified die is still "open" or able to press additional coins, is always uncertain until the die is known to have been canceled.